EnglishOxide Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 I understand some neutrals sticking their oar in. But there were lots of Liverpool fans calling Vardy and Schmeichel 'backstabbing, snake *****' today. It's got absolutely **** all to do with them
Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 5 hours ago, Blue ROI said: Barry glendenning must be taking it very badly I imagine. And Daniel 'the Florist Cock' Taylor.
Sir Shep Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 If we beat Hull, do you think these idiots will march on Leicester and sack the city? They do seem pretty angry!!! I can only guess that they aren't getting much "attention" at home.
LcFc_Smiv Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 3 hours ago, EnglishOxide said:I understand some neutrals sticking their oar in. But there were lots of Liverpool fans calling Vardy and Schmeichel 'backstabbing, snake *****' today. It's got absolutely **** all to do with them Its Liverpool, their going to try and make it all about them!
Rialto 290352 Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 The media would generally not know the truth if it slapped them in the face. They endlessly report lies presented as the truth and that includes the BBC.
Joefox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 The manager 'losing the dressing room' is ultimately the managers fault. It's his job to make sure it doesn't happen. That's the whole point of having a manager. They take the fall when the shit hits the fan. Do I think the players deliberately stopped playing for Ranieri? No. Do I think the players were no longer motivated? Yes.
Guest MattP Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 The best thing about it is they are doing our work for us, the amount of bile from the media, the attempts at divide and rule amongst our players/owners and fans and seemingly everyone in the country shouting in our face that they demand we get relegated as a weird tribute to Claudio will be spurring on players on more than any manager can do, they are like the football version of the Hollywood limousine liberals who pontificate about politics to the average bloke, not realising they are actively damaging their own cause. Long may it continue, we'll get a siege mentality in the club that can only be good at this point in time.
fuchsntf Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Reactions on this forum, and from all parts of social media proves one frustrating thing.... pundits/journalists/skyteams /BBC panels, alike are doing their jobs, and pretty well, even when they get it wrong... They get those reactions, they get us talking, discussing ,arguing...great innit!!!
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 28 minutes ago, Joefox said: The manager 'losing the dressing room' is ultimately the managers fault. It's his job to make sure it doesn't happen. That's the whole point of having a manager. They take the fall when the shit hits the fan. Do I think the players deliberately stopped playing for Ranieri? No. Do I think the players were no longer motivated? Yes. Motivated is probably the wrong word. I'd go with frustrated, confused and shackled.
gw_leics772 Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Shackled is definitely the word after last night. Even ndidi looked a different player spraying the balls all round.
Jakewilk Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 36 minutes ago, MattP said: The best thing about it is they are doing our work for us, the amount of bile from the media, the attempts at divide and rule amongst our players/owners and fans and seemingly everyone in the country shouting in our face that they demand we get relegated as a weird tribute to Claudio will be spurring on players on more than any manager can do, they are like the football version of the Hollywood limousine liberals who pontificate about politics to the average bloke, not realising they are actively damaging their own cause. Long may it continue, we'll get a siege mentality in the club that can only be good at this point in time. This was proven last night. I went expecting some division and arguing amongst our fans and was pleasantly surprised by the fact we seemed very united (at least where I sit in sk1 we were). Everyone around me got behind the team and celebrated Ranieris achievements on the 65th minute. There was no division and it was genuinely an enjoyable atmosphere. Only bloke who looked unhappy was a Liverpool fan a couple of seats down who had come with his mate who was a Leicester fan. Other teams fans can do one and 'neutrals' are the worst thing in football always moaning about some injustice or another without ever understanding why it happened in the first place.
HybridFox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 It was funny. For weeks whenever we'd concede during a game, my phone would be buzzing with texts from other team fans "what's going on", "leicester's going down", "should have put that relegation bet on" etc. Yesterday - COMPLETELY silent Shhhhhhh
Joefox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 58 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: Motivated is probably the wrong word. I'd go with frustrated, confused and shackled. Yes true. You'd think the hysteria might have died down a bit now but if anything it's getting worse with the whole snakes thing. That joke was never even funny in the first place. lets put things into perspective. Ranieri will for ever be known as a legend and has just got a 3 million quid pay off. People are acting like the bloke has died. this club wouldn't even be in the premier league if it wasn't for our owners who invested their own money in to our club.
fairbanksh Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Media are disgusting Why persist in blaming club and players for a fundamentaly misfiring manager Its ridiculous not to blame lack of motivation very poor tactics on the manager . Of course so players performed well below their potential but the ridiculous critiical abuse from some so called fans provides the media scavengers with more mileage. Some of our fans should wise up and get a life and forget such ridiculous thoughts as " Claudio deserved the right to take the club down" Mprons Get behind the team for christi sake.Act like proper fans
ZeGuy Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 The most hilarious are the DM posters. There are quite some gems there buried in the salt mines. There isn't a single article on Leicester that isn't flooded with "snakes" and "backstabbers" comments.
Beliall Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 If I see the word snake or that ****ing emoji one more time I'm going to unload on somebody
VLC86 Posted 28 February 2017 Author Posted 28 February 2017 5 live this morning have been discussing are the players a disgrace. My favourite call was a lady who had "Started supporting Leicester last season because of Ranieri" which probably explains how clueless she was zzzzzzzzzz.
VLC86 Posted 28 February 2017 Author Posted 28 February 2017 Just now, Beliall said: If I see the word snake or that ****ing emoji one more time I'm going to unload on somebody I've started doing it to catch them now.
Foxes1 Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Just had a look at RAWK forum looks like there have worse meltdowns than foxes talk. Klopp out
fairbanksh Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 The neutrals who got on the band wagon last season are deluded that they should have a relevant say They don't please go away. Never know such a disgusting circus Go away we don't want you irrelevant scum
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 The comments that are annoying me most are 'Ranieri's got to be tearing his hair out watching this wondering why they didn't try for him' - no, try looking at tactics where Shakey has actually decided to give our players freedom to run and attack......
LittlethorpeFox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 I think generally before this the media have been pretty fair to us in recent years. However this last week i have seen such a lack of knowledge about the real detail of Leicester's situation from some so called top level pundits that i have literally wanted to kick my tv/radio in! The reasons of why it was such a treacherous sacking are based on 1. Ranieiri's personality, 2. What happened last season, 3. Nothing at all to do with this season, and absolutely zero understanding of what is happening behind the scenes at the club. In fact other than an article in the Telegraph, the best and most informed piece i saw was a blog by no other than the normally annoying Richard Keys - I have copied it below... Gary Neville has this unwavering loyalty to all managers that they should never be sacked! Many pundits who are ex managers (and current managers) have this exaggerated disappointment at any sacking to protect their own back. Neville thought Moyes deserved longer at United FFS!! But they are on a soap box, on the TV and with their press conferences so this is the narrative that's peddled to Joe Public. Somebody earlier in this thread hit the nail on the head when they said Carragher has gone too far last night. He was very personal and I think unprofessional in his assessment. And I really believe its a resentment that players like Wes Morgan and Danny Simpson did what he couldn't do and that was win the Premier League. He won many other cups and the Champions League, but the Premier League is the holy grail at Anfield and he knows that. Also Merson/Carragher/Neville etc.. saying "people", won't mind if Leicester go down now because of sacking Ranieiri. Why are they talking for all the "people" - why don't they say what they really mean... that they personally want Leicester to go down. Oh yes because they are meant to be unbiased and haven't got the F***kin bollocks to say it!! RANT OVER! Richard Keys blog... Stop the bleating. He had to go. on Friday, 24 February 2017. Posted in Richard Keys Blog Come on. Enough. Stop the bleating please. Dilly ding. Dilly dong - Ranieri has gone - and not before time. Leicester are in crisis and he's to blame. If he's not - why did he get all the credit for winning the title last season? The re-moaners can't have it both ways. I last blogged on this very subject about two weeks ago. The surprise to me is that Leicester gave Ranieri the time they did this season and allowed things to fall apart so dramatically. Here are one or two facts surrounding a charismatic man who charmed us all the way to the most extra-ordinary title win of all time. I said in my last blog that the real architect of last season's triumph was Nigel Pearson. He was - him, Steve Walsh, who recruited the talent, and Craig Shakespeare, who coached the team. Fact, as Rafa might say. Pearson guided Leicester back from oblivion to the big time. All right, they initially struggled to adjust to life in the Premier League, but what a finish they had to that first season back - seven wins from the last nine - and the greatest escape of all time was complete. It was Pearson that had every right to be 'disappointed' about the decision to sack him - and a lot more than Ranieri. The players didn't want Ranieri as his successor. Fact. It was with that information that I predicted they'd go down the following season - believe it or not, having spent a lifetime on the fringes of the game listening to what's happening within it, I have gathered useful information. It's my job. Where I can I share it with you in these blogs. They players were never comfortable with Ranieri. Fact. If a strong dressing room can down tools and see a manager sacked - Mancini, Moyes, Mourinho and now Ranieri - then it most almost surely follow that it can galvanise itself into producing success? How many times have we all heard Graeme Souness tell us that the most successful Liverpool teams didn't need a coach? He would add 'if there was a problem at half time me, Kenny and Jocky (Alan Hansen) would sort it out'. I've heard that line a million times! Fact Now that's not to dilute entirely the impact Bob Paisley had at Anfield, nor that which Ranieri had at Leicester. Ranieri played the Press brilliantly last season, shielding his players from the pressures of what they were doing. He made us laugh and ultimately he astounded us by helping to deliver that title. Fair play to him - it was stunning. We'll never see the likes of it again. But there were always doubts and cracks in the dressing room. The same doubts emerged last summer although although we'll never hear it publicly. That was the time for everybody to part company. Everybody would've been remembered as 'winners'. Fact. The dressing room always wanted either Walsh or Shakespeare to succeed Pearson. Now Shakespeare is in charge temporarily. Believe me, if the players can 'play him in' they will. And I wouldn't entirely rule out Pearson coming back, although when that idea was muted at the beginning of last week, the hierarchy at Leicester were insistent Ranieri was staying. Something changed and it changed quickly. I'm grateful to those of you who take time out to share your thoughts on Twitter so let me address a few of them. One of the biggest criticisms of me supporting Leicester's decision was that I'd made my feelings plain about strong dressing rooms before. Yes, I have. And yes, I was disgusted at how City's dressing room played Mancini out - even going so far as to toss a Cup Final off. United's players saw off Moyes. We know very well now who ran Mourinho out of the Bridge. So what's the difference? I'll tell you. At City the owners should've backed Mancini. They were at the beginning of a project and could easily have replaced the dissenters and not been affected by the turmoil. It was easier to get rid of Mancini though, with the knowledge that it would eventually be easier to sack his replacement to make room for Guardiola, which was always going to happen. I've addressed this previously. Moyes was 'guaranteed' two years to sort out a fading Manchester United. Forget they'd won the title the previous season - it was all over for most of that team and Fergie knew it. It's why he left then. Moyes was categorically told that missing out on Champions League football for a couple of seasons, while he addressed the re build, wouldn't affect his position. Again, the hierarchy crumbled under player power, when they were in a much stronger position to back their manager than Leicester are. The same applied at Chelsea. Leicester are different. They'll never challenge for another title. They're in free fall and right now everything says they're going down. Something HAD to be done. Time is their enemy. There simply isn't any. Now, this change doesn't guarantee they'll survive, but it was a guarantee they were going down without it. Enough please of the sentimental nonsense that 'Ranieri deserves better'. Why? That 'Ranieri deserved a crack at the Champions League'. Why? That 'football has lost its soul'. Utter nonsense. In any other walk of life a leader failing as badly as Ranieri was would've been shown the door weeks ago. Look - last season was wonderful. We all enjoyed it, but you can't run a football club on memories or sentiment. Ranieri will go down, rightly, as Leicester's most successful manager ever. He was out of work and going nowhere when Leicester gave him the gilt edged chance that they did. He was coming off the back of a complete shambles with Greece. It worked out well for both club and individual, who leaves with a vastly enhanced cv and a nice few quid. But it's over. Done. Fact. It was a business decision and the right decision, no matter what the romantics tell you.
Finnaldo Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 The media are vultures, that's how they've always made money and Leicester's collapse would always make more money than if we had been consistently midtable all season. They write these article as a 'tragedy' but you know the only emotional investment they have as they sit there writing this drivel is the big sh!t-eating grin on their face. Very few care about football itself and would probably be happy to see English football collapse if they felt they'd get a big fat paycheck out of it. Those who do care like Jonathan Northcroft have produced the balanced, detailed articles on the subject with angles other than Claudio sad unhappy face and without stooping to simply sh!t-stirring with a quick and easy 'my (non-existent) sources tell me that the players did X to get Claudio sacked'. Somehow people can't see this. They'll lap up any old shite the media will throw at them because with the advent of social media they crave to be the most popular and knowledgeable football fan but in reality take on any lies or post-truth handy in case they go against the grain and look 'fickle' and 'unloyal'. Not to Leicester, but to some non-existent football entity that rules you a good football fan. I had someone tell me the Ranieri was sacking was terrible because it turned the international football community against us. But so fvcking what?? I remember when the only media attention Leicester would get was when we were the butt of jokes after Deeney. There was no outrage after the manager that got us out of League One, a notoriously difficult league to get out of, on first attempt and romped to the title, then got us to the play-offs in the Championship in our first season back, was sacked because we needed someone with a 'higher profile' despite the sustained success. The 'international football community' will get bored of us very quickly when/if we stop being so spectacular, had we got relegated we wouldn't of heard a peep about us from the 'international football community'. Ultimately the only certainty Leicester City have in terms of support of those that have followed them through thick and thin, whether they be the far flung ones whether they've followed us for years through the Levein, Kelly, Mandaric & League One like the boys in New York, the ones who have just started following but understand exactly what the the club means to the supporters and wish to join that, or those who were born into becoming Leicester City fans with years of ineptitude and flashes of brilliance up until the absolute miracle of last year. This is the only community that the Club should care about, who the owners have repeatedly shown they care about, and whilst the Ranieri era came to a regrettable close, we'll all still be here when the dust settles and there's a new Man U/Man City/Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool crisis for the 'international football community' gawk at and we'll carry on getting behind those eleven boys on the pitch whomever they be. So now we've got a foothold it's about time we tell the media and international community were they can shove it and see how Leicester can progress and get back on track, becuase that's all I care about.
mancunianfox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Anyone else absolutely loving the backlash? I am enjoying it today even more than when everyone thought we were wonderful. Already had five colleagues tell me today (in Manchester) that our players should be ashamed of themselves. I just reply - "Why, they won under difficult circumstances and should be proud of their reaction" which winds them up even more. Don't get me wrong, I couldn't speak for about two hours on Thursday night but at the end of the day I support the club not the manager. I love all 22 players who won the league last year just as much if not more than Ranieri. On the radio yesterday Dean Ashton had a 'heartfelt message' to our players reminding them that what they did now would define the rest of the careers. DEAN ASHTON FFS, a fairly average player who was runner up in division two and runner up in the FA Cup. Not fit to lace Andy King's boots. Bonkers. Carragher has at least owned up to his bitterness when he was in the pitch at the KP which is fair enough...he did win plenty with Liverpool though to be fair.
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