steveherbe Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 At last, common sense prevails, using a video ref for goals. France had one chalked off, Spain had one confirmed, both times overruling the lino, and coming to the correct decision. No arguements from players, great idea in my opinion
MadKaw Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 The tested the video ref at a Womens League game over here on the weekend. Added 20 minutes to the game.
steveherbe Posted 28 March 2017 Author Posted 28 March 2017 About 30 seconds both times. But, without video ref its a 1 1 draw. With it, Spain - correctly - win 2 0
steveherbe Posted 28 March 2017 Author Posted 28 March 2017 1 minute ago, MadKaw said: The tested the video ref at a Womens League game over here on the weekend. Added 20 minutes to the game. Presume they kept stopping to apply more lippy?
steveherbe Posted 28 March 2017 Author Posted 28 March 2017 Paul Ince slagging it off, he's a dinosaur, "takes the passion out of the game". Tit, if it won his beloved Man Utd a trophy he'd love it.
C-man Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 26 minutes ago, steveherbe said: Paul Ince slagging it off, he's a dinosaur, "takes the passion out of the game". Tit, if it won his beloved Man Utd a trophy he'd love it. It does though. 40 seconds for the most basic of decisions tonight. What happens when it's a decision that splits refereeing opinion? I'm fairly sure it'll be the last nail in the coffin for refereeing standards across all levels too. We need to be encouraging refs from a young age to take responsibility. If they are watching with a dream to be at a level where they can rely on technology to make the tough decisions for them, that is hardly going to encourage them to be better is it? Controversy is part of football. People need to get over it and enjoy it.
steveherbe Posted 28 March 2017 Author Posted 28 March 2017 3 minutes ago, C-man said: It does though. 40 seconds for the most basic of decisions tonight. What happens when it's a decision that splits refereeing opinion? I'm fairly sure it'll be the last nail in the coffin for refereeing standards across all levels too. We need to be encouraging refs from a young age to take responsibility. If they are watching with a dream to be at a level where they can rely on technology to make the tough decisions for them, that is hardly going to encourage them to be better is it? Controversy is part of football. People need to get over it and enjoy it. Point for discussion in our new 'home' saturday then!
st albans fox Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 I am against video refs - happy with goal line technology and this could be expanded to indicate the ball being out of play all around the pitch imo. It's a matter of fact and the signal to the official is instant. As far as video referral is concerned. - off sides, penalties etc etc - referees and their errors are part of the game. what are we going to talk about if there are no dodgy decisions? if decisions can be instant ( the flag goes up or not) then fine but they can't and that takes away the spontaneity of a goal celebration which is one of the best things about being there. It also seems to dumb down the game. I also believe it will make the official's bottle out of giving decisions because they know the guy in the van will help them out. It happens in rugby all the time now. What's an obvious try is referred upstairs when it should be given immediately, conversion taken and the game moves on. linesmen will not bother to give offsides if they look a bit tight so loads of referrals will be necessary which will, imo, ruin the flow of the game. tonight was a good illustration of what lies in store but it will get worse as time passes. i know people will argue that the right call is made but I just think that wrong decisions are part of the game and we should continue with what we have, warts and all.
ajthefox Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 33 minutes ago, C-man said: It does though. 40 seconds for the most basic of decisions tonight. What happens when it's a decision that splits refereeing opinion? I'm fairly sure it'll be the last nail in the coffin for refereeing standards across all levels too. We need to be encouraging refs from a young age to take responsibility. If they are watching with a dream to be at a level where they can rely on technology to make the tough decisions for them, that is hardly going to encourage them to be better is it? Controversy is part of football. People need to get over it and enjoy it. You could argue it's a slippery slope granted, but what if it were just goals? If every foul gets referred to a video ref that would completely fvck with the game, but surely for goals it's a different issue.
C-man Posted 28 March 2017 Posted 28 March 2017 2 minutes ago, ajthefox said: You could argue it's a slippery slope granted, but what if it were just goals? If every foul gets referred to a video ref that would completely fvck with the game, but surely for goals it's a different issue. Happy with it as it is now. Goalline technology is a good solution because it solves a problem of physics: when a shot is taken from 25 yards it is physically impossible for a lino to get on the goalline to assess whether it has crossed or not. For offsides that generally isn't a problem and for a lot of other things (handball etc) the rules are so subjective you're not likely to achieve census in 30 seconds anyway. Slippery slope indeed.
yorkie1999 Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 I'm all for it, gives the ref and linesmen more chance of seeing off the ball incidents
Finnegan Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 8 hours ago, C-man said: It does though. 40 seconds for the most basic of decisions tonight. What happens when it's a decision that splits refereeing opinion? I'm fairly sure it'll be the last nail in the coffin for refereeing standards across all levels too. We need to be encouraging refs from a young age to take responsibility. If they are watching with a dream to be at a level where they can rely on technology to make the tough decisions for them, that is hardly going to encourage them to be better is it? Controversy is part of football. People need to get over it and enjoy it. Sorry bud but come off it. If a small pause to check a goal kills your passion, then you obviously weren't that in to it in the first place. It's also done no harm to the standards of reffing in rugby which, at the top level, I'd say are better than the equivalent in football. I feel like a stuck record comparing the two but it's hard not to when the whole player-ref dynamic is so vastly better in rugby. Controversy is part of football? You mean shit decisions are what make the game for you? Come on, good football makes the game. I definitely wouldn't want to see video technology brought in for all incidents in football, the game is a lot quicker paced then rugby and has less natural stoppage. But a quick review for the odd dodgy goal or potential red card? That's what, thirty seconds every few games tops? That'll kill the passion of football? Heh. Okay.
Soup Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 27 minutes ago, Finnegan said: Sorry bud but come off it. If a small pause to check a goal kills your passion, then you obviously weren't that in to it in the first place. It's also done no harm to the standards of reffing in rugby which, at the top level, I'd say are better than the equivalent in football. I feel like a stuck record comparing the two but it's hard not to when the whole player-ref dynamic is so vastly better in rugby. Controversy is part of football? You mean shit decisions are what make the game for you? Come on, good football makes the game. I definitely wouldn't want to see video technology brought in for all incidents in football, the game is a lot quicker paced then rugby and has less natural stoppage. But a quick review for the odd dodgy goal or potential red card? That's what, thirty seconds every few games tops? That'll kill the passion of football? Heh. Okay. Good football makes the game Bless you!
TheUltimateWinner Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 I'd happily take a 30 second wait for the right decision over no stoppages for the wrong decision. Imagine the game played was a final or something, take away the video referee it would have been 1-1, which is completely the incorrect scoreline. Video referees correctly overruled incorrect decisions to mean Spain deservedly got their 2-0 victory, the right result. Referees get slagged off all the time, it's about time they had some support.
cheshamfox17 Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 10 hours ago, st albans fox said: What are we going to talk about if there are no dodgy decisions? Maybe the actual game of football that is being played on the pitch
ousefox Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 I wonder if the officials yesterday felt obliged to make a coupe of wrong decisions to push this through...
kingcarr21 Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 It needs to be brought in but only for instances that is a simple yes or no such as 1. Was the foul Inside the penalty area? 2. Offside? 3. Ball is out of play? These sorts of decisions will only take seconds to resolve. If we tried to use technology for fouls then it just wouldn't work as its open to interpretation. So the Referees still have authority over the game and big decisions to make. If we used technology for the above 3 points I think the refs would be all for it. Nothing wrong with giving them a helping hand. Same with the linesman. Game is getting so fast paced that they could use a hand. I would suggest the offside can only be reviewed if it leads to a goal. Not for an offside that would only result in possession turning over. This would cause too many stoppages. I can understand that goal celebrations may be affected with delays taking the shine off the moment but its more important that the correct decision is made.
Guest MattP Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 Finally the game comes into the latter part of the 20th century, delighted. This will be terrific, we'll have less whinging among the players, won't have to tolerate half as many rants from weirdos like Mourinho on how the World is against him and it stop the bias towards the top clubs from officials that has been there for years. If football needs controversy to survive then it says a lot about it as a sport.
Finnegan Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 1 minute ago, MattP said: Finally the game comes into the latter part of the 20th century, delighted. This will be terrific, we'll have less whinging among the players, won't have to tolerate half as many rants from weirdos like Mourinho on how the World is against him and it stop the bias towards the top clubs from officials that has been there for years. If football needs controversy to survive then it says a lot about it as a sport. This, absolutely.
ozleicester Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 Just start making playstation games the official EPL.
AKCJ Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 12 hours ago, steveherbe said: About 30 seconds both times. But, without video ref its a 1 1 draw. With it, Spain - correctly - win 2 0 Note that this is 30 seconds for the very first time it's trialled. It's obviously going to get more streamlined.
yorkie1999 Posted 29 March 2017 Posted 29 March 2017 The griezman disallowed goal to the offside kick off probably took about the same time as a normal offside free kick
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