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Gray ..... £60k a week

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Posted

Has very strong potential imo.

Just hitting the target is the only problem at the moment.

But feel attitude is not all there at times, sulky here and there etc.

Posted

Still really young and will only develop and get better. if he's asking for 60k now what will he want in a few years!. I can understand the agent is trying to get the best deal for Gray and himself but the club should not be held to ransom. yes we need to keep our best players but Gray needs to perform through a whole season and see how he does first and then get a massive pay rise!

Posted
20 hours ago, the fox said:

why are people talking about gray like he is a super talent? he is talented ,no doubt but he is not that good, people talking about him having the potential to be as good as mahrez if not better, get in the bin! you are telling me that gray gonna be a poty caliber player, he is living of mahrez (and what i mean by that is mahrez is taking all the heat while gray only has to go against 1 player), n'didi is a super talent, gray isn't

 

if the talk is real, let him get in the bin too, for a 60k a week we can get a player from the calcio or ligue 1 with a lot better potential, more ready to lead a team and less of a headache on social media

 

some won't admit it but, if he wasn't an "english talent" people here would have fed up with his social media antics and lack of end-product a long, long time ago

I think you are being very harsh with your views on Gray. I must admit I do agree that 60k is an obscene amount of money for a 20 year old who isn't a first team regular but sadly this is the way football is. Yes he's English but if anything that ultimately adds more pressure onto youngsters coming through. Yes many are overrated but that's from the media and fans alike, not the players themselves.

 

Whose to say that Gray can't be player of the year calibre in 3 years time? Did I believe Mahrez would be when we signed him? NOPE. I mean we won the league last year so stranger things have happened.

 

He does need to work on his game and that's down to himself and the staff at Leicester City to keep him grounded. He could turn out bang average along with the like of Redmond and Zaha but he could also hit the heights of Mahrez of last season. He's exciting and has a great future ahead of him if he really wants it. Cut him some slack.

Posted
12 hours ago, the fox said:

you know that there is something called an anomaly, right? not every 23 year old from ligue 2 can go to win the PL and POTY. and even then people could tell that he is special, just because you started young doesnt mean that you will go to do big things

well, gray can be an anomaly too,but from what i saw, i don't think so, young players get carried away easily, especially young english players.

Your argument makes no sense. You're writing off Gray, aged 20, despite saying 26 year old Mahrez is an "anomaly" despite him playing for the Le Havre reserves at the same age. No logic.

 

If you saw Mahrez at the same stage of his career, you'd have written him off judging by your view of Gray. Same with Vardy and Kante.

Posted

Decent performance this weekend. No one in our squad can run as fast as him with the ball at his feet and that terrifies defenders. 

 

As others have said, the only criticism would be that he could have passed in certain situations but Mahrez was equally as guilty, if not more and you can tell Gray is desperate to make an impact and scoring goals really helps! 

 

I hope he starts tomorrow, as it would be harsh to drop him again and Albrighton could always do with another rest to help him fully recover, as I fully expect him to be starting in the Champions League. 

 

I'd be giving Gray and N'didi new, improved contracts this summer as both have huge potential and it's important that we don't lose them. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Lovejoy said:

Your argument makes no sense. You're writing off Gray, aged 20, despite saying 26 year old Mahrez is an "anomaly" despite him playing for the Le Havre reserves at the same age. No logic.

 

If you saw Mahrez at the same stage of his career, you'd have written him off judging by your view of Gray. Same with Vardy and Kante.

In case you didn't read my comment properly "well, gray can be an anomaly too,but from what i saw, i don't think so, young players get carried away easily, especially young english players."

Posted
6 hours ago, leicesterlad1989 said:

I think you are being very harsh with your views on Gray. I must admit I do agree that 60k is an obscene amount of money for a 20 year old who isn't a first team regular but sadly this is the way football is. Yes he's English but if anything that ultimately adds more pressure onto youngsters coming through. Yes many are overrated but that's from the media and fans alike, not the players themselves.

 

Whose to say that Gray can't be player of the year calibre in 3 years time? Did I believe Mahrez would be when we signed him? NOPE. I mean we won the league last year so stranger things have happened.

 

He does need to work on his game and that's down to himself and the staff at Leicester City to keep him grounded. He could turn out bang average along with the like of Redmond and Zaha but he could also hit the heights of Mahrez of last season. He's exciting and has a great future ahead of him if he really wants it. Cut him some slack.

I'd take a Redmond and Zaha to be honest. Both decent Premier League players who both start and have an impact most weeks.

 

I think Gray will be a Premier League starter soon enough and hopefully with us. Whether he can reach the heights of Mahrez last season, probably not. Not even Mahrez has been able to match them yet. Is Gray worth a 60k a week deal now? No chance. This unfortunately will be another agent tactic to get himself and his client more money and game time, similar to the release clause story thrown out there last week. It's no coincidence that we are coming towards the end of the season and stories like this are emerging. 

 

I suspect the release clause is 100% bogus and Gray's agent will be aiming for a new, better paid contract but would probably settle for less than the 60k.

 

I think he would be silly to move. He will likely get more games next season and definitely more here than he would at a "bigger club", plus we pay better wages than all those around us, so that potential will always keep his agent happy. 

Posted

If we don't pay him 60k or close to that someone else will. 60k a week is nothing. 3m a year. Gray is already proving himself. Yes he has a lot to learn still but he'll be learning at another club if we passively dismiss his demands (if that is what this is all about). 

 

That kinda figure doesn't seem out of line given our current wage structure. He's one of the brightest prospects not only at our club but in English football. And give N'didi the same deal at the end of the season. 

 

 

Posted

He's definitely worth 60k a week in my opinion. Give him a year or two, especially if he works under Mahrez's tutelage and he'll become one of the best Wingers in the Prem League.

Posted
6 hours ago, USFox said:

He's definitely worth 60k a week in my opinion. Give him a year or two, especially if he works under Mahrez's tutelage and he'll become one of the best Wingers in the Prem League.

Agreed 

Posted
9 minutes ago, Johnthefoxrayner said:

Agreed 

Me too. The raw talent there is unbelievable. Genuinely think he'd start at most clubs in the PL aside from the top 7-8. Even somewhere like Everton he might get more of a sniff, he's unlucky that Mahrez was so fantastic last year. Based on current form, if he wasn't 'Mahrez' I think Gray would've played more tbh

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Posted
7 hours ago, USFox said:

He's definitely worth 60k a week in my opinion. Give him a year or two, especially if he works under Mahrez's tutelage and he'll become one of the best Wingers in the Prem League.

What he did exactly to deserve 60k?

Posted
14 hours ago, STUHILL said:

I'd take a Redmond and Zaha to be honest. Both decent Premier League players who both start and have an impact most weeks.

 

I think Gray will be a Premier League starter soon enough and hopefully with us. Whether he can reach the heights of Mahrez last season, probably not. Not even Mahrez has been able to match them yet. Is Gray worth a 60k a week deal now? No chance. This unfortunately will be another agent tactic to get himself and his client more money and game time, similar to the release clause story thrown out there last week. It's no coincidence that we are coming towards the end of the season and stories like this are emerging. 

 

I suspect the release clause is 100% bogus and Gray's agent will be aiming for a new, better paid contract but would probably settle for less than the 60k.

 

I think he would be silly to move. He will likely get more games next season and definitely more here than he would at a "bigger club", plus we pay better wages than all those around us, so that potential will always keep his agent happy. 

Yeah I am perhaps a little harsh when describing both Redmond and Zaha as bang average. Certainly in Zaha's case, he showed flashes of brilliance, which secured his United move but then failed to really progress from that.

 

I think Gray is unlikely to reach the heights of Mahrez last year but like you have said, even Mahrez hasn't this year. It only takes one really good season for people to take notice.

 

I really hope that Gray stays with us and I do think this is agent talk. Sadly due to the amount of money in football these days, 60k a week is pocket change to owners, so I'd imagine he will get close to that. Crazy money when you consider what top footballers were earning only a matter of years ago.

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

3.2 Mill a year, replacing him might cost 5x that. 

It doesn't work like that.

Posted
18 hours ago, Lovejoy said:

Your argument makes no sense. You're writing off Gray, aged 20, despite saying 26 year old Mahrez is an "anomaly" despite him playing for the Le Havre reserves at the same age. No logic.

 

If you saw Mahrez at the same stage of his career, you'd have written him off judging by your view of Gray. Same with Vardy and Kante.

 

The Algerians DID write Mahrez off.

 

Don't you remember before the last world cup when they were telling us he wasn't good enough to get ahead of Feghouli and Brahimi?

Posted
23 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said:

Has very strong potential imo.

Just hitting the target is the only problem at the moment.

But feel attitude is not all there at times, sulky here and there etc.

Spot on. If he could find the corners rather than the keeper, he will be deadly. I think he'all hit a streak, but just needs to flourish soon, and take his chance, in the starting lineup.

difficult for the lad. Mahrez is un droppable and Albrighton is upping his game of late.

Posted

Gray is our future, he's got technique and skill along with pace and power.

 

We need to make the most of a talent like this or he will flourish else where.

Guest the fox
Posted

People talking about gray not getting enough time, he played 22 games in the league (started 7) and played 836 minutes, that's about 38 minutes every game, pretty decent, don't you think? That's like getting subbed in on the 52nd minute in 22 games, people think I'm hating on the guy, no I'm not, he is getting overrated by people here, some here even said that he is better than raheem Stirling, what? The only young player here that deserve 60+k is n'didi, end of. And his social media antics, he sure likes to complain about not getting minutes then on the first chance he gets he shoots from 30+ yards out, what I'm trying to say is, FOR ME, he talks the talk but he doesn't walk the walk.

Posted

I imagine his agent has done the rounds and found out roughly what a player in Gray's position is earning and has probably added on a bit more.

 

As a player with a bright looking future that already possesses great sell on value I'd be happy to put him on 40-45k a week with increases and bonuses based on performance over time.

 

He's shown me enough to believe he can become a very good player at this level so would be happy to offer the extra money. Chillwell was on 20k a week with barely an appearance to his name.

Guest the fox
Posted
11 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

The Algerians DID write Mahrez off.

 

Don't you remember before the last world cup when they were telling us he wasn't good enough to get ahead of Feghouli and Brahimi?

Well, to there defence, feghouli was a starter in Valencia and brahimi had an Amazing season in la liga, doesn't that sound logical to you?

Guest Lako42
Posted

Laughable stuff.

 

£60k a week for potential is not acceptable or realistic.

 

If this is his character then he's best off rotting on the bench somewhere else, not that any of this is likely to be anywhere near the truth.

Posted

Give him the money and start playing him. I think the guy has a huge future here.

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