Lionator Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 18 minutes ago, iniesta said: The lefts obsession with the NHS is an illness. It's like they've nothing else to say... Because I quite like not having to pay to have treatment for my mental health disorder. Because I quite like my mother not having to pay for having treatment for her chronic kidney disease. Because in my opinion, healthcare is a right and not a privilege.
Dr The Singh Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 Just now, MattP said: Behave. That was a disaster first few questions but she got a gift at the end, chance to say no deal and play the patriotic card. CCHQ will be delighted, she was better than I thought but I expected a disaster. She came out with her poon intacf
Guest Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 2 minutes ago, iniesta said: It needs reform. European health care is far superior to the NHS. Using the NHS as a political tool is a disservice to us all. The NHS is entirely political. We spend less on health than most of Europe and other significant nations http://www.who.int/gho/health_financing/total_expenditure/en/ https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jan/20/nhs-funding-falling-behind-european-neighbours-kings-fund-research http://visual.ons.gov.uk/how-does-uk-healthcare-spending-compare-internationally/
orangecity23 Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 Just now, Dr The Singh said: She came out with her poon intacf Stay tuned for Singh vs May, Live (Master)Debate on Television X
Guest Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 3 minutes ago, MattP said: Behave. That was a disaster first few questions but she got a gift at the end, chance to say no deal and play the patriotic card. CCHQ will be delighted, she was better than I thought but I expected a disaster. She did okay tonight. Bit of a gimme for her towards the end by Paxo. The quote was my resposne to somebody saying that the left bang on about the NHS by showing that the right also bangs on when it wants to
Dr The Singh Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 2 minutes ago, orangecity23 said: Stay tuned for Singh vs May, Live (Master)Debate on Television X When, tell me...don't mess with me bruv
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 Hmmm. She was ok but not sure why when she had the audience she didnt just say 'Yes. I would absolutely walk away with no deal'.
Nick Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 4 minutes ago, MattP said: Behave. That was a disaster first few questions but she got a gift at the end, chance to say no deal and play the patriotic card. CCHQ will be delighted, she was better than I thought but I expected a disaster. I do think Paxman made himself look silly at the end with that question. She can not say she'd be prepared to walk without a deal as the consequences of that would be horrendous. I do think though the interview in general highlighted a lack of credibility.
Dr The Singh Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 Just now, Realist Guy In The Room said: Hmmm. She was ok but not sure why when she had the audience she didnt just say 'Yes. I would absolutely walk away with no deal'. She fecked up,
orangecity23 Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 3 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said: When, tell me...don't mess with me bruv You'll have to phone a premium rate number to get access to the channel which announces the detail of the exclusive live event. Just text HARD BREXIT to 089751 Don't want to spoiler it too much, but like many of the other things Theresa May is in charge of, it ends with everyone involved in a sticky mess. EDIT: Please contact the bill payer before texting. Texts will be charged at £100,000 (or your house) per message. You may receive promotional messages.
Guest Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 If Paxo wanted to do a proper job there were plenty of questions that could be asked to follow on from her walking away. Think the loser tonight was Paxo tbf
Guest MattP Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 5 minutes ago, toddybad said: She did okay tonight. Bit of a gimme for her towards the end by Paxo. The quote was my resposne to somebody saying that the left bang on about the NHS by showing that the right also bangs on when it wants to It was. Although Corbyn did as well looking back, said he'd sign a blank cheque with no response. Three hours without a mind changed I'd imagine.
Dr The Singh Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 Just now, orangecity23 said: You'll have to phone a premium rate number to get access to the channel which announces the detail of the exclusive live event. Don't want to spoiler it too much, but like many of the other things Theresa May is in charge of, it ends with everyone involved in a sticky mess. As long as she is on the end of the line, and will suck my nipplez, I'm ok
iniesta Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 4 minutes ago, toddybad said: The NHS is entirely political. We spend less on health than most of Europe and other significant nations http://www.who.int/gho/health_financing/total_expenditure/en/ https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jan/20/nhs-funding-falling-behind-european-neighbours-kings-fund-research http://visual.ons.gov.uk/how-does-uk-healthcare-spending-compare-internationally/ More money should be given if it's spent correctly, but it never is. Any talk of reform is shot down by the left. This is a mistake in my opinion. It's broke and needs fixing.
Guest Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 5 minutes ago, iniesta said: More money should be given if it's spent correctly, but it never is. Any talk of reform is shot down by the left. This is a mistake in my opinion. It's broke and needs fixing. As you apparently understand how money is spent in the NHS I'm sure you'd like the opportunity to explain exactly where you think that money is spent incorrectly and where you think it could be spent better? There are changes that could be made - reverse the reorganisation that the Tories put in place regarding commissioning organisations - but providers (hospitals, mental health trusts etc) are virtually ripping up the floorboards to find savings. It's all that's talked about in board meetings. IMO you're just writing lazy nonsense and I'll be stunned if you can back it up with any real discussion of the issues. Oh, and FYI, the Tories implemented a huge reorganisation which has been disastrous so the idea that the left stops them reforming is laughable - if only somebody had stopped it!
Guest MattP Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 12 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said: I do think Paxman made himself look silly at the end with that question. She can not say she'd be prepared to walk without a deal as the consequences of that would be horrendous. I do think though the interview in general highlighted a lack of credibility. It was a gift to be honest, I was screaming at her to shout "No deal, I'll never sell the British people out" It's a pretty crap option to be honest, I genuinely think Ed Miliband or David Cameron would win against either or.
Guest Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 1 minute ago, MattP said: It was a gift to be honest, I was screaming at her to shout "No deal, I'll never sell the British people out" It's a pretty crap option to be honest, I genuinely think Ed Miliband or David Cameron would win against either or. I was thinking this when I saw that Miiband had been out campaigning. Actually think he'd have been decent.
LiberalFox Posted 29 May 2017 Posted 29 May 2017 2 hours ago, iniesta said: The lefts obsession with the NHS is an illness. It's like they've nothing else to say... The Tories love to put out this narrative that "you can't have a sensible discussion about the NHS". The truth is "the left" would love to talk about the NHS or indeed healthcare in general as it's a topic that time and again they trounce the Tories on. So as they have no answer they try and avoid the subject. We've seen what happens when a Tory tries their hand at healthcare policy with the "dementia tax".
davieG Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 General Elections always makes me think of this song. Things have come to a pretty pass Our romance is growing flat For you like this and the other While I go for this and that Goodness knows what the end will be; Oh, I don't know where I'm at... It looks as if we two will never be one Something must be done You say either and I say eyether You say neither and I say nyther; Either, eyether, neither, nyther Let's call the whole thing off! You like potato and I like potatoe You like tomato and I like tomatoe; Potato, potatoe, tomato, tomatoe! Let's call the whole thing off! But oh! If we call the whole thing off Then we must part And oh! If we ever part Then that might break my heart! So, if you like pyjamas and I like pyjahmas I'll wear pyjamas and give up pyjahmas For we know we need each other So we better call the calling off off Let's call the whole thing off! You say laughter and I say lawfter You say after and I say awfter; Laughter, lawfter, after, awfter Let's call the whole thing off! You like vanilla and I like vanella You, say s'parilla and I say s'parella; Vanilla, vanella, chocolate, strawberry! Let's call the whole thing off! But oh! If we call the whole thing off Then we must part And oh! If we ever part Then that might break my heart! So, if you go for oysters and I go for ersters I'll order oysters and cancel the ersters For we know we need each other So we better call the calling off off! Let's call the whole thing off!
Rincewind Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 Only a Tory could think that having health care being available to all is an obsession.
Jimothy Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/features/how-should-i-vote-if-im-too-lazy-to-think-for-myself-20170530128445
Strokes Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 16 minutes ago, Facecloth said: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/features/how-should-i-vote-if-im-too-lazy-to-think-for-myself-20170530128445 Are you in favour of Trident? b) Yes we should let off a few to celebrate brexit. That has litterally cheered me right up
Lionator Posted 30 May 2017 Posted 30 May 2017 26 minutes ago, Facecloth said: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/features/how-should-i-vote-if-im-too-lazy-to-think-for-myself-20170530128445 This seems hilarious however I have relatives who agree almost completely with Labour's manifesto however will vote Tory as in their words "Corbyn is going to get rid of our armed forces". I have no greviences with the way anybody votes if it suits their background but stuff like that genuinely frustrates me.
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