General Election, June 8th

[leicsmac]

3 minutes ago, MattP said:

The outrage on Twitter is amazing, everyone now knows better than the CPS.

 

Meanwhile, Angela Rayner giving Diane Abbott a run for her money.

 

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/shadow-education-secretary-labour-policy-ferrari/

 

Alt-right yesterday, the other side today - Twitter is an outrage machine, isn't it?

 

AFAIC if the CPS have said can't prove anything solid then taking this further is just a waste of time and money anyway. So it goes.

[Nick]

51 minutes ago, MattP said:

The outrage on Twitter is amazing, everyone now knows better than the CPS.

 

Meanwhile, Angela Rayner giving Diane Abbott a run for her money.

 

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/shadow-education-secretary-labour-policy-ferrari/

 

Is that news?

 

A radio show hosts researcher knows about the class size policy and thinks, I know I'll ask a numbers question which she won't have the figures to hand for - it's no reflection on the policy or particularly the ability of the candidate to perform their role. What would have been a relevant question would have been "To achieve these class size figures what investment will it take to do so in terms of teaching staff and classroom facilities and how do the Labour Party expect to finance this?" and if she couldn't answer that, then its news... This kinda stuff reminds of Nicky Morgan spelling 'sincerely' wrongly when she was education secretary last year and the Telegraph making a deal out of it - its worthy of a comment at best but as a full page article - awful journalism.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/22/big-red-mark-for-education-secretary-after-shes-caught-making-an/

 

[Carl the Llama]

2 hours ago, MattP said:

The outrage on Twitter is amazing, everyone now knows better than the CPS.

 

Meanwhile, Angela Rayner giving Diane Abbott a run for her money.

 

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/shadow-education-secretary-labour-policy-ferrari/

 Come off it.  If that were a conservative politician you'd be frothing at the interviewer's pedantry in repeatedly chasing his mark down for minor gotcha points that he'd already established she couldn't give nor was willing to make up a precise answer to instead of moving on to talk about the issue.  Thought she handled it fairly well for the most part and tried her best to give an interview to a man who didn't seem all that interested in pursuing one once he found his gotcha.

[Alf Bentley]

2 hours ago, Foxxed said:

Whole misappropriation of 2015 funds seems to come down to the fact Tory HQ mislead the local candidates - and have been fined for that previously - but the local candidates weren't to know so you can't say the candidates knowingly used the money to gain votes and therefore their seats.

 

If the local candidates are innocent of deliberate deception, but Tory party HQ is guilty, the logical response is to allow the individuals to stand again but to ban the Conservative Party from standing candidates. 

 

In all seriousness, though, party HQ must have known that they were breaking the rules (or should have done) - and a £70,000 fine is peanuts to them.

 

One MP has yet to be cleared, though - Craig McKinlay, the South Thanet MP who narrowly beat Farage (& Labour). I read somewhere that his case sounded a bit more serious. He hadn't just benefited from the battlebus, but had full-time workers from party HQ stationed in his constituency throughout the election. So, the Tories might have a tricky choice there - nominate him to re-stand, hoping he's not charged (candidate registration deadline tomorrow, I think) or pick an alternative candidate at the last minute. I imagine they'll risk the former, but could look bad if he's charged with offences during the campaign....

[Sharpe's Fox]

[Beliall]

Jeremy corbin saying "greedy bankers" is really getting on my tits, sounds like he's reading a childrens story

[Charl91]

14 minutes ago, Beliall said:

Jeremy corbin saying "greedy bankers" is really getting on my tits, sounds like he's reading a childrens story

 

Everyone knows bankers are Strong and Stable.

[Sharpe's Fox]

11 minutes ago, Charl91 said:

 

Everyone knows bankers are Strong and Stable.

They have to be to have a Long Term Economic Plan.

[LiberalFox]

46 minutes ago, Beliall said:

Jeremy corbin saying "greedy bankers" is really getting on my tits, sounds like he's reading a childrens story

[Beliall]

1 minute ago, LiberalFox said:

 

 

someone please photoshop greedy bankers onto the page

[Carl the Llama]

Strange that word doesn't auto-correct to billy pullers. 

[bovril]

1 hour ago, Beliall said:

Jeremy corbin saying "greedy bankers" is really getting on my tits, sounds like he's reading a childrens story

As someone who's Dad's a banker and banks all day, I do find it quite offensive.

[LiberalFox]

58 minutes ago, Beliall said:

 

 

someone please photoshop greedy bankers onto the page

 

Pretty much my first attempt to photoshop anything 

[Beliall]

18 minutes ago, LiberalFox said:

 

Pretty much my first attempt to photoshop anything 

 

[HybridFox]

Saw this on Twitter 

[DJ Barry Hammond]

 

Wow, Corbyn's not held back with his manifesto... it's like a leftists list to Stalin... ahem, Santa

[Rob1742]

Not interested in the election, mainly because it is about politicians and politics.

 

Until the day that one side say something like "yeah, they actually have a valid point there" about the other side, then this politics rubbish isn't for me. 

 

Won't be voting, they don't deserve it, none of them. 

[Foxxed]

Corbyn wants to nationalise rail and the post office then. Both things that were once fairly recently in public hands.

 

I doubt that privisation of either actually improved the service because after all they have a captured market: each company on the rail network is not really competing with others unlike for example car manufacturers.

 

But there would be a downfall in treasury funds I'm assuming since Virgin et al do give us loads of cash for use of this captured market. But if and only if service improved, it was eventually cheaper and it was done incrementally I'd be down with it.

[SMX11]

If the leaks are anywhere near accurate then the Conservative majority has got another 50 seats larger.

[The Doctor]

9 hours ago, Rob1742 said:

Not interested in the election, mainly because it is about politicians and politics.

 

Until the day that one side say something like "yeah, they actually have a valid point there" about the other side, then this politics rubbish isn't for me. 

 

Won't be voting, they don't deserve it, none of them. 

The Tories have sort of done that tbf - energy price caps. Bad idea when Miliband proposed it that would obviously result in Stalin nationalizing your Grandma, but now it's a strong and stable policy (and about the only one they've got so far)

[Guest Foxin_mad]

That Manifesto is wanting to take us back to the 70s. Unions having too much power, strikes, no power, unburied dead, rubbish mountains. Cant wait!!

 

[Guest MattP]

Is this manifesto shorter or longer than the Micheal Foot led one?

 

Call me a conspiracy theorist but I actually think this 'leak' is a work of genius from Corbyn and his team, manifestos don't get leaked but this one has and it's one that his supporters will absolutely love, Trident aside one that pretty much is every reason why they voted him, now expect a adjusted or moderated one to come out on May 15th and that can obviously be blamed on the PLP and anyone but Jeremy and his team, they are the ones who have stolen the manifesto and it will rile the supporters up even more to kick out the so called moderate.

 

The people saying the Corbyn campaign has been a car crash from all sides are making the same mistake as those who were calling Trump a buffon during his, they are watching his actions and listening to his words through their own ears and eyes rather than the ones of a ex Pittsburgh Steel worker or in this case the young Corbynista from York, he knows this has gone and all he is doing is shoring up his base for what he probably sees as the more important election he'll face a few months down the line when his leadership is challenged again.

 

The bloke was campaigning in Harlow the other day, somethig that looked pointless, a seat with a large Tory majority but on closer inspection it is apparantly a place with a large Labour membership, that should tell you everything you need to know.

[Guest MattP]

I had a proper look at the local elections this week and this result was interesting in terms of local politics.

 

https://www.leicestershire.gov.uk/about-the-council/how-the-council-works/elections/election-2017/439

 

	Party	Votes	Elected	%
			2844
	Amanda Jayne Hack	Labour	1330	Yes	46.7
	Les Phillimore	Conservative	1273	No	44.7
	Rennee June Kent	UK Independence Party	241	No	8.47

 

If the Tories are only 2% behind Labour in Braunstone I really do think Liz Kendall is in trouble.

[LiberalFox]

Not sure who the Tory PPC is in Leicester West but it would be a shame for Liz Kendall to lose her seat, although somewhat ironic if it was due to Corbyn's 'leadership'.

[Rob1742]

5 hours ago, The Doctor said:

The Tories have sort of done that tbf - energy price caps. Bad idea when Miliband proposed it that would obviously result in Stalin nationalizing your Grandma, but now it's a strong and stable policy (and about the only one they've got so far)

You have fallen into the trap that most fall into. "the tories have done that"

 

They are both as bad, it is the system that is wrong and those that are involved in it.

 

Until we as a population refuse to support those that treat us as idiots, then we won't get anywhere.

 

By voting we are accepting this pettiness that politics is. We need people in it that treat others with respect, and if someone from the other side does something god, it is congratulated rather than sneered at.

Even in football, managers may well say that the other team did well, and congratulate a player, and we know how bad a state football is in.

 

These fools will argue with the opposition view whatever it is, just to try and score a point.

 

I see the fool Corbyn today has tried to defend his side kick fool Abbott. Now really if he wanted to gain credibility, he should say it was an horrendous interview, and stick his hands up and say she got it horrendously wrong, and it won't happen again.

 

Tools the lot of them.

 

Then there is the other choice May. I can't imagine anyone going into a negotiation in business with the outlook she is taking on Brexit. If you do, you will fail big time.

 

Clueless the lot of them, absolute tools. My postal voting form came through today and it went straight in the bin.

 

Its like giving you the choice of going to watch either Derby or Forest on Saturday, and like fools we make a decision and go to watch one of them. Well there is another choice, don't go and watch eother, or in this case don't vote and they will realise we have had enough of this.