Seaton Fox Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 Did anyone see the comments Roy Keane made about the Madrid game . I think he must have a problem with Leicester . Thought he was a complete dick head with some of his remarks . i would hate to play under him if he was a manager ,would destroy your confidence in a heartbeat.
ZeGuy Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 25 minutes ago, Seaton Fox said: Did anyone see the comments Roy Keane made about the Madrid game . I think he must have a problem with Leicester . Thought he was a complete dick head with some of his remarks . i would hate to play under him if he was a manager ,would destroy your confidence in a heartbeat. Source?
MPH Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 Roy Keane is still living off the ego he created as a player. He's a terrible manager and so i wouldn't take any of his assessment of any players/ performance seriously..
STUHILL Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 Roy Keane has worked out that like Katie Hopkins, the more outspoken and controversial he is with his statements, the more work he can generate for himself. He is just a bitter, failed manager who hates the modern game and modern player.
Brainy Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 He wasn't particularly wrong with the bits about us going for it too late, although you can understand our stance in wanting to stay in the game for as long as possible. I just hate punditry as a whole, people telling others how to do a job that they haven't done or in Keane's case, hasn't done very well in the past.
Monsell1976 Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 Look at his managerial record, and you soon realise his opinion is pretty much irrelevant. Just a has been, trying to keep his name in the press, and his profile/ego going, when reality is nobody is interested in what he has to say.
harpendenfox Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 He's like that irascible elderly relative at Christmas becoming more outspoken as the festivities proceed. You listen politely at first, but by early afternoon you're giving him an increasingly wide berth as he starts abusing everyone and everything. Time me to go to bed Roy
Thracian Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 Didn't make much of a manager - which surprised me - and it doesn't matter what he says to anyone but himself and his employers. Yesterday's man and not one I much care for or would willingly choose to listen to on television.
Maggie's town fox Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 A total failure as a Manager and now just a miserable **** as a so called know it all pundit. Stick him on a remote island with Danny Murphy and Jermaine Jan'ARSE'. What a tosser and always will be, oh and I suspect sour grapes because little old Leicester qualified for CL and Manure didn't.
filbertway Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 https://streamable.com/9n6b2 If it's this then I don't really have any issue with it whatsoever, it's a completely fair point. If it's something else then it'd be good to see what else was said to make a judgement.
dynamark Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 Nasty piece of work -as a player I would have loved to play against him and left a few scars. He is stealing a living at present
Gerard Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 48 minutes ago, Walkers said: He wasn't particularly wrong with the bits about us going for it too late, although you can understand our stance in wanting to stay in the game for as long as possible. I just hate punditry as a whole, people telling others how to do a job that they haven't done or in Keane's case, hasn't done very well in the past. I don't think we left it too late. We consolidated our position at half time away in Madrid when we had little opportunity to score and took a 1-0 loss by playing 4-1-4-1. We played our normal formation at home and Shaky kept it as it was until half time as wholesale changes then would have confused us. We gambled in the second half going 3-4-3, a lot of managers wouldn't have gambled until the hour mark. I think all those decisions were right.
ZeGuy Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 I personally think we woke up too late, without holding any grudge to Shakespeare though. I don't know where the people got the idea that we would succeed where monster teams like Barca, Real or Bayern broke their teeth, i.e. going slowly and cracking the Atletico nut, one of the best defenses in the world, in 45 minutes. It was never going to happen. And it didn't eventually. I said before the game that the worst mistake would be the "not lose approach" and that if we don't have at least one goal in the first 50 minutes we would lose the game. I'd rather lose 3-0 by giving everything on the get go than try the "stay in the game the longest possible". There is no shame in it. Staying in the game was valid in Madrid. Not at the KP. And it brought us nothing, since they scored anyway and we had to go gung ho in the second half. The only difference was that we had to score 3 goals .
AdamLcfc81 Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 12 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: I personally think we woke up too late, without holding any grudge to Shakespeare though. I don't know where the people are got the idea that we would succeed where monster teams like Barca, Real or Bayern broke their teeth, i.e. going slowly and cracking the Atletico nut, one of the best defenses in the world, in 45 minutes. It was never going to happen. And it didn't eventually. I said before the game that the worst mistake would be the "not lose approach" and that if we don't have at least one goal in the first 50 minutes we would lose the game. I'd rather lose 3-0 by giving everything on the get go than try the "stay in the game the longest possible". There is no shame in it. Staying in the game was valid in Madrid. Not at the KP. And it brought us nothing, since they scored anyway and we had to go gung ho in the second half. The only difference was we had to score 3 goals . Spot on. Always thought Atletico were comfortable and could always go up a gear if needed.
fuchsntf Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 Besides him, upsetting a few over biased posters on this forum.Even though we are happy with the fight we put up, and how proud we can say we are of our team achievements in reaching the QFs of the CL. But, and again But....he wasnt too far from the truth was he ??? Hes just the bogeyman, who layed some good valid points on the table....lets scratch his eyes out !! 2 of his points....First leg...too defensive, not doing or offering enough for a CL qf. Then not trying enough in cutting out the cross, for their goal, actually standing off. I have always fought Simpsons corner this season, but from him and Mahrez either one should of gone into the tackle or 'attempted' to be closer to block the cross.How many blocks did their Lb + rbs get in, when under simular pressure. In Keanes case, though arrogantly presented, dont shoot the messenger... Its his job, I has a fan as mentioned ,decided not to go on a blame campaign, around the pitch over the 2 games. Players at all levels make mistakes, just look at anyone of the QFs games. keane is employed for other reasons now, he decided not to get involved in the sympathy side, that doesnt make his opinions any less relevant or false..
glenny_fox Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 We couldn't have 'gone' for it any earlier. with the tempo the players were going at, you couldn't keep it up for more than 45. you could see at the end they were completely knackered which was understandable. Keane is an absolute moron who has quickly realised that the only way he will stay relevant as a pundit it to give opinions that will cause a response.
Gerard Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 12 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: I personally think we woke up too late, without holding any grudge to Shakespeare though. I don't know where the people are got the idea that we would succeed where monster teams like Barca, Real or Bayern broke their teeth, i.e. going slowly and cracking the Atletico nut, one of the best defenses in the world, in 45 minutes. It was never going to happen. And it didn't eventually. I said before the game that the worst mistake would be the "not lose approach" and that if we don't have at least one goal in the first 50 minutes we would lose the game. I'd rather lose 3-0 by giving everything on the get go than try the "stay in the game the longest possible". There is no shame in it. Staying in the game was valid in Madrid. Not at the KP. And it brought us nothing, since they scored anyway and we had to go gung ho in the second half. The only difference was we had to score 3 goals . I disagree, we had to find a balance between threatening to score whilst being defensively strong. We only need to score the first goal in the match to be equal. Once they scored the first goal we had to set up to score goals at the risk of conceding more goals which we did IMO. It would have been reckless to set up the way we did in the second half from the start of the match.
FoxinNotts Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 5 minutes ago, AdamLcfc81 said: Spot on. Always thought Atletico were comfortable and could always go up a gear if needed. True. They are a class above.
ZeGuy Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 1 minute ago, glenny_fox said: We couldn't have 'gone' for it any earlier. with the tempo the players were going at, you couldn't keep it up for more than 45. you could see at the end they were completely knackered which was understandable. Keane is an absolute moron who has quickly realised that the only way he will stay relevant as a pundit it to give opinions that will cause a response. I don't have it. Going at them from the beginning means you have fresher legs than after 45 minutes and if you score you can "relax" a bit. Your approach doesn't let any place to an eventual win. We had to score two goals to a team superior in every aspect of the game. When was it going to happen? No time for half hearted mesures. Attack is the best the defense. I repeat the timid way, didn't save us from a goal. We played in their hand.
ZeGuy Posted 20 April 2017 Posted 20 April 2017 10 minutes ago, Gerard said: I disagree, we had to find a balance between threatening to score whilst being defensively strong. We only need to score the first goal in the match to be equal. Once they scored the first goal we had to set up to score goals at the risk of conceding more goals which we did IMO. It would have been reckless to set up the way we did in the second half from the start of the match. We aren't. Never were. We were bound to concede anyway. Or did you really expect to keep a clean sheet against them? Edited (because derp): That's the problem. We lost time, their goal was a matter of "if" "when", not "when" "if". I'm personally convinced that it was the way to go against a team which defense is one of the best of the world and sincerely thought Shakey would go that way. We don't have enough quality at the back to keep a clean sheet and not enough quality up front to score that many goals in such a small time window. The in between brought nothing but a draw. Who dares wins.
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