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Ric Flair

Feeder Club

By Ric Flair, in Leicester City Forum

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sphericalfox

sphericalfox

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He is hardly going to buy them declaring it'll be a feeder club, before its all gone through. If it's set up as an independent purchasing company then it'll be unlikely, but I don't really know about these things. I don't have multi-millions to buy a club to find out.

China Black

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I don't like the concept of feeder clubs as it would mean that the club that is the feeder has difficulty trying to build a team that can be effective in competitions, due to the turnover of players (either of players coming and going from bigger clubs via loan, or the feeder club's most talented player going to the bigger club partner). It makes the feeder club subservient.

 

Personally I would like to see the this club develop its youth academy to a high standard that enables the production of top quality youngsters that can play for the first team and get better with the clubs assistance. That way a club identity is created. Plus it is good PR for the club.

UniFox21

UniFox21

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1 hour ago, China Black said:

I don't like the concept of feeder clubs as it would mean that the club that is the feeder has difficulty trying to build a team that can be effective in competitions, due to the turnover of players (either of players coming and going from bigger clubs via loan, or the feeder club's most talented player going to the bigger club partner). It makes the feeder club subservient.

 

Personally I would like to see the this club develop its youth academy to a high standard that enables the production of top quality youngsters that can play for the first team and get better with the clubs assistance. That way a club identity is created. Plus it is good PR for the club.

This may be what they're intending 

The owners never don't have a plan and i don't take them as the kind of people to  ignore the other club 


From what i've read Top's plan includes renovating the training ground etc and building a new stadium, this wouldn't be the case if it was literally just to feed us

Feel they'll build that club up, just allowing leicester players there on loan and if any exceptional talent came along, probably be signed by us and loaned straight to them etc

 

As well having a club in the Belgian league would enable them to have better scouting etc in an area where talent is major  

Nod.E

Nod.E

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Go on the Leuven! lol

They were my feeder club on FM a few years back. 

Lizhang

Lizhang

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6 hours ago, BenTheFox said:

My initial thought was one of discomfort. I wouldn't want a club's sole purpose to be to provide us with players. However, this is a club struggling in the second tier of Belgian football and they were only founded in 2002. If this investment would mean that their club could make significant progress then I'm sure their fans would appreciate that as long as the club kept it's traditions (badge, colours etc.) intact, even despite the fact that they've not been existed for that long. 

The club was united out of 3 older clubs in 2002, but the oldest of those 3 was founded in 1903, being only the 18th club in Belgium back then. The club played in first division last year and the only reason they relegated was because the board decided to start renovating the stadium in the middle of the season, costing us points, of which we ultimately came up one short to avoid being relegated. So, the talk about a new stadium seems strange and unnecessary. The club has one of the best training facilities and our youth teams are generally among the best of their league (champions this year in second division, usually top 8 when they play in first division). The problem seems to be getting them into the first team.

 

The problem is none of those things, but a lack of know-how among the board members. Unfortunately, if the deal goes through, they get to keep their place on the board. Which is the main reason why they are looking for foreign investors, because a group of local investors who have also placed their offer, wants them out, and rightfully so.

MarriedaLeicesterGirl

MarriedaLeicesterGirl

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2 hours ago, China Black said:

I don't like the concept of feeder clubs as it would mean that the club that is the feeder has difficulty trying to build a team that can be effective in competitions, due to the turnover of players (either of players coming and going from bigger clubs via loan, or the feeder club's most talented player going to the bigger club partner). It makes the feeder club subservient.

 

Personally I would like to see the this club develop its youth academy to a high standard that enables the production of top quality youngsters that can play for the first team and get better with the clubs assistance. That way a club identity is created. Plus it is good PR for the club.

But Belgian clubs, sadly, already fulfill that purpose (and a lot of other places, too.) They don't go and find the Ndidi's of the world to build their club, or else they wouldn't sell them in the middle of a Europa League campaign.

Heck, in some ways it might be better for stability, because LCFC doesn't have to worry about another club nabbing the prospect, and they can finish the season.

Foxxed

Foxxed

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I doubt we'll be sending players on loan there since our own leagues would be as good. Are we going to dump the players that aren't succeeding here onto OHL in the hope they'll come good and we can buy them back? Couldn't we do that with pretty much any club? And obliging their best talent to come to us smacks of something I don't think our owners would do, or at least hope they wouldn't.

 

And are we getting right to first refusal on OHL players? I bet other scouts looking at OHL players would love essentially working for us without the payment or reward. If Top really wanted us to grab top young Belgium talent he could just expand the scouting network and employ some people in Belgium. It's possibly that our scouts will go around African youth teams and use OHL as somewhere to stay for three years to gain an EU passport and thereby use that to leverage a UK passport but that seems suspect to me.

 

I don't reckon this is a feeder club. I reckon we've been our owner's best investment. I reckon they just want to do another Leicester City since it's been massively fun and profitable for them. And Top wants to start the fun again. He could have allowed Ranieri to manage us into league one if he wanted to do that but then I guess that's not good financial sense.

Lizhang

Lizhang

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1 minute ago, Costock_Fox said:

John bostock plays for them? Remember when he was going to be good?

He left in the summer. Played here for two years.

Lizhang

Lizhang

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1 minute ago, Costock_Fox said:

I would suggest you are wrong, Google never lies.

In that case he didn't just get injured badly playing for Lens in France.

JerryLundegaard

JerryLundegaard

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3 hours ago, promised land said:

How will gold trim fit with their home kit?

 

Will their fans be getting clappers?

 

Questions that need answering.

Hope they put the kop and family stand in the right place in their new stadium

Guest Col city fan

Guest Col city fan

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10 hours ago, brucey said:

it can't hurt.. there's a lot of decent players coming from the Belgian league

It won't be about the Belgian players particularly. It'll be about signing young players from anywhere and enabling them to gain a work permit.

However, how does this sit with Brexit?

foxes21

foxes21

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from a local:

 

I live about 5min from the OHL stadium. But I'm in no way a fan of the club. I think it would be better for the club if it would be bought and got a financial injection.

 

The club itself is a fusion between three local teams: Zwarte Duivels Oud-Heverlee and Stade Leuven. One had a good youth program and the second had (in it's time) a decent first team. The third club was Daring Leuven, but I can't remember what the thing with them was (I'm writing this from memory). After the fusion things got better for the club after they delt with some building regulations. If I remember correctly a part of the stadium was built outside of these regulations and the city wanted to tear the whole thing down, but eventually didn't.

 

Leuven had a small economic boom around the same period with some big companies settling and developing there and OHL saw some of that money through sponsorships. With that injection they were able to reach the highest flight of Belgian football and actually won their first game there with 1 - 0 against none other than Anderlecht. (I was there in the lobbies during the game by accident)

 

The problem is that with the fusion they had created a club with barely any soul left. The people that supported one of the 3 fusioned clubs were dying out and most of them supported other teams in the premier division. You had some local support (alot of good drinkers around here) but once the results started to become worse and worse the support started to fade and the current attendance is low. Alot of people in Leuven are students and they don't live here permanently so they don't give a shit about OHL. Plus you also have Leuven Bears (basketball team in highest division) and Volley Haasrode Leuven (volleyball team that reached the top 6 play offs twice in a row now) and most people only go to one of them.

 

Eventually we are left with a team that has very poor results year after year (premier, 2nd league, premier, 2nd league and almost demoted to amateur football this year). Local companies that don't care anymore and no fans. And they had a gambling scandal last year aswell.

What they do have is a very very good youth program and seen businesswise I think Leicester would really benefit from the youth acadamy in the long term and OHL will be able to maintain in professional football. So I would say it's a win win.

Lizhang

Lizhang

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15 minutes ago, foxes21 said:

from a local:

 

I live about 5min from the OHL stadium. But I'm in no way a fan of the club. I think it would be better for the club if it would be bought and got a financial injection.

 

The club itself is a fusion between three local teams: Zwarte Duivels Oud-Heverlee and Stade Leuven. One had a good youth program and the second had (in it's time) a decent first team. The third club was Daring Leuven, but I can't remember what the thing with them was (I'm writing this from memory). After the fusion things got better for the club after they delt with some building regulations. If I remember correctly a part of the stadium was built outside of these regulations and the city wanted to tear the whole thing down, but eventually didn't.

 

Leuven had a small economic boom around the same period with some big companies settling and developing there and OHL saw some of that money through sponsorships. With that injection they were able to reach the highest flight of Belgian football and actually won their first game there with 1 - 0 against none other than Anderlecht. (I was there in the lobbies during the game by accident)

 

The problem is that with the fusion they had created a club with barely any soul left. The people that supported one of the 3 fusioned clubs were dying out and most of them supported other teams in the premier division. You had some local support (alot of good drinkers around here) but once the results started to become worse and worse the support started to fade and the current attendance is low. Alot of people in Leuven are students and they don't live here permanently so they don't give a shit about OHL. Plus you also have Leuven Bears (basketball team in highest division) and Volley Haasrode Leuven (volleyball team that reached the top 6 play offs twice in a row now) and most people only go to one of them.

 

Eventually we are left with a team that has very poor results year after year (premier, 2nd league, premier, 2nd league and almost demoted to amateur football this year). Local companies that don't care anymore and no fans. And they had a gambling scandal last year aswell.

What they do have is a very very good youth program and seen businesswise I think Leicester would really benefit from the youth acadamy in the long term and OHL will be able to maintain in professional football. So I would say it's a win win.

Where does this "local" live? Mechelen? lol

 

Well, he's not wrong about everything at least. He lives 5 min away from the stadium, i live a 100 yards away.

Lestoh

Lestoh

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3 minutes ago, Lizhang said:

Where does this "local" live? Mechelen? lol

 

Well, he's not wrong about everything at least. He lives 5 min away from the stadium, i live a 100 yards away.

Not for long:whistle:

Lizhang

Lizhang

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1 hour ago, Lestoh said:

Not for long:whistle:

Well, clearly you don't know Belgium :P

 

PS: to be clear, building a stadium in Belgium takes about 10 years, to find a suitable location and get the needed licenses. Too many regulations, too many different parties involved (city politics, province, national government...)

Nalis

Nalis

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5 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Stella Artois is from Leuven....that's my useless trivia. 

 

Stella...wife beater...Danny S.... yep, all makes sense now....

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