Mahrez to .......................?

[FrankieADZ]

Just now, mazarron fox said:

If he stayed with us and had last seasons attitude he wouldn't be first choice with us never mind arsenal

spot on, personally id given DG a chance

[foxfanazer]

2 minutes ago, Matt said:

 

Desperate.

 

So what does that change? I don't see what it changes! Just another case of getting in papers, getting his name about and staying relevent when no-one's that keen on taking a chance on him of the back of last season at what we value him at.

 

 

Exactly. Changes nothing. We've not said we won't sell him, we just won't have our pants pulled down on the price. Not our fault nobody is interested. Not even Arsenal's first choice so what does that tell him? 

 

 

[Finnegan]

6 minutes ago, Matt said:

 

Desperate.

 

So what does that change? I don't see what it changes! Just another case of getting in papers, getting his name about and staying relevent when no-one's that keen on taking a chance on him of the back of last season at what we value him at.

 

 

 

Actually if I understand correctly, it's good news for us.

 

Footballers get a loyalty bonus for not handing in a formal transfer request, it potentially saves us money, no?

 

Although it may be a ploy to get the club to accept a lower fee.

[Ted Maul]

46 minutes ago, weller54 said:

Aren't you forgetting that last season he was a million miles away from the PFA player of the year that he was the year before.. 

This time last year his stock was at its highest.. After his inept performances throughout the whole of last season his value has plummeted.. No one else is even interested in signing him apart from that senile old git Wenger!!.. Take the 35m fast!! 

We'd be mugs to sell at that level!

 

Look at it this way- if we do hold out and end up keeping him for another year, he's going to have a point to prove. We might see a more motivated and determined player now he knows that his best option is the Europa League and Arsenal, who aren't interested enough to meet his market value.

 

I've been a big critic of his for the last few months, his attitude was way off in that second half of the season and he let himself down badly. He thought he would just walk off to his choice of Champions League clubs. However, I wouldn't be against him staying another year- he would want to raise his stock again, and I think we would get much more out of him.

[Almo-Fox]

19 minutes ago, Matt said:

He has no right whatsoever, he's under contract.

 

That's not to say he can't or won't 'do a Payet' but he certainly has no 'right'.

 

I've said it a few times, this 'gentlemans agreement'...he does realise it works both ways doesn't he? By not turning up for the majority of last season he didn't hold up his end of the bargain, I just hope the owners have reminded him of that, he only has himself to blame.

You are right matt  eliot   ,     

Speaking about mahrez doing a payet is taking to its extent a bad behaviour  mature enoigh and vey decwnt  man that he willl accept a honour his contract , comply with the rules  and listening  positively to his coach s instructions and  accept to  be benched if that help the team or silencing an anger form his team mates if felt any disrespect from him

I heard him on tv saying if there is no offer this summer he is still a lecister  city player 

If he goes to arsenal he goes by the book of LCFC  i.e  50 m or at least 40-45 m plus not playing the first match against leicester  on friday  , august the 11 th   

[foxfanazer]

Just now, Finnegan said:

 

Actually if I understand correctly, it's good news for us.

 

Footballers get a loyalty bonus for not handing in a formal transfer request, it potentially saves us money, no?

 

Although it may be a ploy to get the club to accept a lower fee.

Yeah hasn't thought about that top bit. 

 

In regards to your last sentence I'm not sure what he hopes to achieve? We know he wants to go and we've not said he has to stay. We simply want our valuation for him so the hold up on his move is with the buying club/s

[thybluefox]

Just now, Ted Maul said:

We'd be mugs to sell at that level!

 

Look at it this way- if we do hold out and end up keeping him for another year, he's going to have a point to prove. We might see a more motivated and determined player now he knows that his best option is the Europa League and Arsenal, who aren't interested enough to meet his market value.

 

I've been a big critic of his for the last few months, his attitude was way off in that second half of the season and he let himself down badly. He thought he would just walk off to his choice of Champions League clubs. However, I wouldn't be against him staying another year- he would want to raise his stock again, and I think we would get much more out of him.

 

That's a big risk though, to be honest. Do you really think he's shown the kind of attitude of someone that will knuckle down and prove he's worth what he thinks he is? I certainly don't, because if he was he'd have done it at the end of last season.

 

What will actually happen if we don't sell him is he'll sulk and spend the season on the bench. Then next summer there's even less chance of us selling him for a decent price. He'd probably end up going back to France for a pittance like Payet did. 

[MikeyT]

54 minutes ago, mazarron fox said:

Where's Fuchs ffs where's Simpson? And no keeper omg

[foxfanazer]

Just now, thybluefox said:

 

That's a big risk though, to be honest. Do you really think he's shown the kind of attitude of someone that will knuckle down and prove he's worth what he thinks he is? I certainly don't, because if he was he'd have done it at the end of last season.

 

What will actually happen if we don't sell him is he'll sulk and spend the season on the bench. Then next summer there's even less chance of us selling him for a decent price. He'd probably end up going back to France for a pittance like Payet did. 

So be it. Would set a precedent that we're not to be treated like mugs

[thybluefox]

3 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

So be it. Would set a precedent that we're not to be treated like mugs

 

So you'd sell him for less next summer (and keep paying him £100k a week) rather than sell for £30/35mil now - just to make a point?

 

The lad is becoming an embarrassment, he's an incredibly talented footballer but his time here is done. 

[yorkie1999]

5 minutes ago, thybluefox said:

 

That's a big risk though, to be honest. Do you really think he's shown the kind of attitude of someone that will knuckle down and prove he's worth what he thinks he is? I certainly don't, because if he was he'd have done it at the end of last season.

 

What will actually happen if we don't sell him is he'll sulk and spend the season on the bench. Then next summer there's even less chance of us selling him for a decent price. He'd probably end up going back to France for a pittance like Payet did. 

Well, as long as we sell for more than 400k, we've made a profit, plus had a player that was partly instrumental in us winning the league.

[lgfualol]

Hope he stays and his head screws back on. Magical player.

[foxfanazer]

2 minutes ago, thybluefox said:

 

So you'd sell him for less next summer (and keep paying him £100k a week) rather than sell for £30/35 now - just to make a point?

 

The lad is becoming an embarrassment, he's an incredibly talented footballer but he's time here is done. 

In an ideal world I'd sell for £45m-50 but with one club interested and the fact it's Arsenal that seems unlikely. Why should we bow down like 'little old Leicester'. We have the money to keep him and I think this would make other players think twice about acting this way with us. 

 

Also I don't think Mahrez would have any choice but to sort himself out. If he really does have ambitions of playing for a top club his best and possibly only chance would be to have another superb season here 

[Ted Maul]

5 minutes ago, thybluefox said:

 

That's a big risk though, to be honest. Do you really think he's shown the kind of attitude of someone that will knuckle down and prove he's worth what he thinks he is? I certainly don't, because if he was he'd have done it at the end of last season.

 

What will actually happen if we don't sell him is he'll sulk and spend the season on the bench. Then next summer there's even less chance of us selling him for a decent price. He'd probably end up going back to France for a pittance like Payet did. 

Tricky one. In a way, you're right- we don't want him if he's not prepared to put any more graft in.

 

On the other hand, I don't want us to be mugged off by a club like Arsenal trying to squeeze a bargain out of us, then look back in a year and wonder why the f**k we sold him for way below what we know his market value could potentially be (again).

 

There was an interview after he released his statement where he said there's a chance he will still be here, which gave me the impression that he wouldn't throw too much of a tantrum. Time will tell.

[foxes21]

has he reported back for training today?

[thybluefox]

1 minute ago, foxfanazer said:

In an ideal world I'd sell for £45m-50 but with one club interested and the fact it's Arsenal that seems unlikely. Why should we bow down like 'little old Leicester'. We have the money to keep him and I think this would make other players think twice about acting this way with us. 

 

Also I don't think Mahrez would have any choice but to sort himself out. If he really does have ambitions of playing for a top club his best and possibly only chance would be to have another superb season here 

Absolutely see where you're coming from - I'd love for him to stay, have another PFA POTY worthy season and then move on (ideally abroad) for big money in 12 months. I've just not seen anything to show me that that's the way he'd handle it. 

 

He's undoubtedly the most talented player we've had at this club - if he stayed and got his head right him and Iheanacho could be unreal. I just don't see it happening that way though 

[Arriba Los Zorros]

Staying here another season and giving it 100% won't be so bad Riyad. It's not like we've just been relegated or are relegation fodder, its still a very good forum to display your talent and if you play like you deserve a big move you'll get it - to Barca or Man City, Bayern etc, not some crappy stepping stone sideshow like Arsenal

[MikeyT]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/07/football-transfer-news-rumours-arsenal-leicester-15m-apart-valuation/

 

Football transfer news and rumours: Arsenal and Leicester '£15m apart in their valuation of Riyad Mahrez'

Arsenal are unwilling to meet Leicester's £50million valuation for RIYAD MAHREZ, according to the Daily Mail, leaving the Foxes player in limbo on the eve of pre-season.

The Gunners, who this week completed a club record move for ALEXANDRE LACAZETTE, are happy to pay £35million for the former PFA player of the year. Mahrez returns to training later today.

ANTONIO CONTE's future at Chelsea could be in doubt as he has become frustrated with Chelsea's failure in the transfer market over the summer. ROMELU LUKAKU is on the verge of a sensational £75million move to Manchester United and the Blues have also failed on moves for ALEXIS SANCHEZ and VIRGIL VAN DIJK. The Italian is thought to be "fuming" about the failure to bring Lukaku to Stamford Bridge, though it is also suggested the Blues have not yet given up on the move.

Failing that, Chelsea will turn their attention to Swansea's FERNANDO LLORENTE, according to the Evening Standard. The Blues were interested in the Spaniard in January's transfer window and Chelsea are set to renew their interest as Diego Costa's likely departure leaves them short in the striker department. However, Swansea are keen to keep hold of a player whose 15 goals last season helped them retain their Premier League status despite him being in the last year of his contract.

 

Marseille are the frontrunners to sign Arsenal striker OLIVIER GIROUD, as reported by our man James Ducker. Everton, West Ham and Lyon have all been linked with the France international after his Gunners future was thrown into doubt by the acquisition of Alexandre Lacazette earlier this week. But now Marseille believe they can take Giroud back home in a deal worth around £24.7million plus add-ons.

 

The Daily Mirror reports that Leicester winger DEMARAI GRAY has asked for assurances from Leicester over his prospects of first-team football after Liverpool and Tottenham have shown interest in the 21-year-old. Gray found last season "tough" after making only nine starts for the Foxes and shone for England Under-21s, scoring twice as they reached the semi-finals of the European Championships.

[Buzzell]

I don't think he would sulk if he had to stay another year. If he stayed and knuckled down then he will get a big money move. Win/win for Mahrez and for us. 

[deep blue]

6 minutes ago, thybluefox said:

 

So you'd sell him for less next summer (and keep paying him £100k a week) rather than sell for £30/35mil now - just to make a point?

 

The lad is becoming an embarrassment, he's an incredibly talented footballer but his time here is done. 

It's not just to prove a point, but to ensure that we don't get our pants pulled down on every deal over the next 2 years, which could cost us millions.

 

If  Mahrez is  forced to stay with us then there's a risk that he won't learn from it and will be a corrosive influence, but I think that will be a v small risk. The odds are that he will reassess his situation and accept reality. No-one wanted him badly enough, that was because of his own shortcomings, he let us (and himsrlf) badly last season, he will possibly have p*ssed off his teammates. When he takes stock he will see that the only way forward for him is to knuckle down, start afresh, rehabilitate himself with the squad and staff (esp at training). He is in a far better place than he could have hoped for, given the quality and ambition of our signings, which negates his inferences that he suffreed from lack of quality in the team around him last season. And I'm sure he'd start with a clean slate with Shakey in charge.

[FrankieADZ]

£15mil apart then not at all surprised if how tight Wenger can be at times,,

 

they could always make that up by adding a player and a sell on clause.....

[thybluefox]

1 minute ago, FrankieADZ said:

£15mil apart then not at all surprised if how tight Wenger can be at times,,

 

they could always make that up by adding a player and a sell on clause.....

I'd take the Ox and £30mil in a heartbeat. He wouldn't come here though I imagine. 

[foxfanazer]

1 minute ago, thybluefox said:

I'd take the Ox and £30mil in a heartbeat. He wouldn't come here though I imagine. 

They value Ox at £40m. Shows what they think of Mahrez 

[FrankieADZ]

3 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

They value Ox at £40m. Shows what they think of Mahrez 

its typical Arsenal,  they always do it........didnt they nearly put in a bid for Suarez but didnt meet his release clause by £1

 

and shows that he isnt a priority for him, more a after thought prime targets go a miss

[TAFKA Castroneves]

It's quite apparent really that Mahrez is down the pecking order a bit in terms of them actually wanting him, they'll only go in for him if they are getting a deal, that's what this 15 million gap shows us really. Funnily enough it's reasons similar to that why Vardy didn't go to Arsenal last year, they liked the release clause price - but really they weren't interested in building their side with him at the helm - he would have been a guy to come off the bench.

 

If I was Riyad i would be getting my apologys ready, that big move is really looking like it never existed - no-one actually in the Champions League wants him as a top target, the only clubs interested are really around Europa League level/or if they can get a "bargain" deal - and he's not going to be a guaranteed starter.

 

This has all got rather silly - and it's a shame because it's left him in no mans land now, shows that it doesn't matter how good you are for one season - scouts aren't daft and can work you out.

 

Really the offers we are getting sadly reflect what sort of player he's become over the last season