Guest MattP Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 1 minute ago, Finnegan said: Giving a **** what colour your passport is is a level of shit-giving that even I can't stoop to. Jesus. Doubt anyone does really, it's great trolling to pretend you do though, go on Twitter and see the reaction to it from the Remain voters, they go into hissy fits about us all wanting to send kids down chimneys again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSi13 Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 2 hours ago, Rogstanley said: While it's fashionable at present among some people to hate experts and educated people in favour of gut feeling and wild guesses, it's just not true to say "economists have not worked properly". They don't all get it spot on all of the time, but things like GDP predictions are usually within a fraction of a percent, which is pretty damn close in reality given they are trying to predict the behaviour of an entire nation. Your third paragraph is a joke but the senile old fart racist undertones are so boring i can't even be bothered to deal with them. Thankfully people with those kind of views have never been respected in this country and they never will. The way you've then gone on to use those who gave their lives in the world wars to make a political point further demonstrates how little respect your views deserve. Oh do wind your neck in and get over yourself. But hey insulting people and calling them racist if they disagreed with your point of view worked out so well during the referendum right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSi13 Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 33 minutes ago, Buce said: Words fail me. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/22/british-passports-will-be-navy-blue-after-brexit-says-home-office The first burgundy machine-readable passports were issued in the UK in 1988, after the common format introduced by the European Economic Community. Speaking in April, the Conservative MP Andrew Rosindell said the burgundy EU passport had been a source of national “humiliation”. “The restoration of our own British passport is a clear statement to the world that Britain is back. Our British identity was slowly but surely being submerged into an artificial European one that most Brits felt increasingly unhappy about,” he told Press Association. “The humiliation of having a pink European Union passport will now soon be over and the United Kingdom nationals can once again feel pride and self-confidence in their own nationality when travelling, just as the Swiss and Americans can do. “National identity matters and there is no better way of demonstrating this today than by bringing back this much-loved national symbol when travelling overseas.” I think everyone on this forum knows that blue is better than red. Fully in support of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 5 minutes ago, BlueSi13 said: Oh do wind your neck in and get over yourself. But hey insulting people and calling them racist if they disagreed with your point of view worked out so well during the referendum right? It's Moosebreath mate, this account is almost identical to the Frank to Be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 1 minute ago, MattP said: It's Moosebreath mate, this account is almost identical to the Frank to Be one. Moosebreath was occasionally funny, this blokes just a crank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogstanley Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 36 minutes ago, MattP said: Whether you like or not they do exist and they exist because people wanted different things and to live in different ways. I'm extremely proud of my national identitiy and the way this tiny piece of land has shaped the World in so many ways, I'm proud we were the country who drew up Magna Carta and then exported it across the globe, I'm proud we played a huge part in defeating fascism and communism, I'm proud of our artists, our poets and our writers, I'm proud we are a democracy and not a country where an army or a mob can decide to rule over the people, I'm proud of our history and our landmarks, I'm proud that we don't make too much of a fuss about it either, we don't swear to our flag every morning in school, we don't define ourselves in terms of race or religion like so many countries still do in 2017. To say you are immune to this because you find it "make believe" is for me is to declare yourself a spirtual desert, you'll have lost touch with your ancestors and won't be able to pass it on to your own children. Which poets are you proud of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 My passport has expired, I’m not renewing until it’s blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogstanley Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 24 minutes ago, BlueSi13 said: Oh do wind your neck in and get over yourself. But hey insulting people and calling them racist if they disagreed with your point of view worked out so well during the referendum right? There's a small chance that statements like "parts of England are lost" and bemoaning the supposed loss of "our way of life" aren't racist and that's why I said racist undertones. There are racist undertones because that's exactly the kind of talk you get from the far right and white supremacist groups. Couldn't care less about the EU referendum. If people can't take their views being challenged then i believe the popular term for them these days is 'snowflake'. It was old people in the main that won it for brexit. Am I concerned by the opinions of some old snowflakes bitter because they don't fit in in the modern world? Not really, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 21 minutes ago, Webbo said: Moosebreath was occasionally funny, this blokes just a crank. You just aren’t intelligent enough to understand his humour apparently webbs, I don’t think anyone is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katieakita Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 http://corporate.postoffice.co.uk/sites/default/files/AR%26FS_171116.pdf Running a business Tory style, £13 million profit, miss off the £25 million reduction in pay to Postmasters, forget about the £19 million repayment from Royal Mail's pension fund the reduction in NI contributions of £12 million and increase the working week by and average of 18 hours per office, what is not to like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bovril Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 Hopefully the new passport will also be in comic sans with a smiley face. Because nothing is more truly English than a passive aggressive note. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 15 minutes ago, katieakita said: http://corporate.postoffice.co.uk/sites/default/files/AR%26FS_171116.pdf Running a business Tory style, £13 million profit, miss off the £25 million reduction in pay to Postmasters, forget about the £19 million repayment from Royal Mail's pension fund the reduction in NI contributions of £12 million and increase the working week by and average of 18 hours per office, what is not to like It's incredible that the modern working class can't see the Tories for what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 1 hour ago, MattP said: Whether you like or not they do exist and they exist because people wanted different things and to live in different ways. I'm extremely proud of my national identitiy and the way this tiny piece of land has shaped the World in so many ways, I'm proud we were the country who drew up Magna Carta and then exported it across the globe, I'm proud we played a huge part in defeating fascism and communism, I'm proud of our artists, our poets and our writers, I'm proud we are a democracy and not a country where an army or a mob can decide to rule over the people, I'm proud of our history and our landmarks, I'm proud that we don't make too much of a fuss about it either, we don't swear to our flag every morning in school, we don't define ourselves in terms of race or religion like so many countries still do in 2017. To say you are immune to this because you find it "make believe" is for me is to declare yourself a spirtual desert, you'll have lost touch with your ancestors and won't be able to pass it on to your own children. Oh look. A tory Brexiteer dreaming of days of old. What a surprise. The world's changed chap. 2 hours ago, Buce said: Words fail me. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/22/british-passports-will-be-navy-blue-after-brexit-says-home-office The first burgundy machine-readable passports were issued in the UK in 1988, after the common format introduced by the European Economic Community. Speaking in April, the Conservative MP Andrew Rosindell said the burgundy EU passport had been a source of national “humiliation”. “The restoration of our own British passport is a clear statement to the world that Britain is back. Our British identity was slowly but surely being submerged into an artificial European one that most Brits felt increasingly unhappy about,” he told Press Association. “The humiliation of having a pink European Union passport will now soon be over and the United Kingdom nationals can once again feel pride and self-confidence in their own nationality when travelling, just as the Swiss and Americans can do. “National identity matters and there is no better way of demonstrating this today than by bringing back this much-loved national symbol when travelling overseas.” The other point, of course, is that they're was nothing stopping us having a blue passport within the EU. It was a choice to go with the standard colour, it isn't a requirement. Much like it was our government's choice not to use the powers it had under EU law to minimise benefit tourism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogstanley Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 (edited) Have to admire the imagination required to come up with a term like "spiritual desert" to describe somebody who doesn't determine his sources of pride based on arbitrary artificial boundaries. Spiritual desert ffs, suddenly Tory fogies are becoming hippies As for being proud of "our poets", I'd love to understand how that actually works in practice. Edited 22 December 2017 by Rogstanley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellend Sebastian Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 Business idea: a passport holder that looks like an EU passport. We could sell literally dozens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 28 minutes ago, toddybad said: Oh look. A tory Brexiteer dreaming of days of old. What a surprise. The world's changed chap. I'm not dreaming about anything, I'm explaining to you why I'm proud of my identity and my nation. Though I suppose someone who still believes in socialism has to blank out history, a bit like an adult who still wants to believe in Santa Claus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Ulike Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 2 hours ago, Buce said: Words fail me. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/dec/22/british-passports-will-be-navy-blue-after-brexit-says-home-office The first burgundy machine-readable passports were issued in the UK in 1988, after the common format introduced by the European Economic Community. Speaking in April, the Conservative MP Andrew Rosindell said the burgundy EU passport had been a source of national “humiliation”. “The restoration of our own British passport is a clear statement to the world that Britain is back. Our British identity was slowly but surely being submerged into an artificial European one that most Brits felt increasingly unhappy about,” he told Press Association. “The humiliation of having a pink European Union passport will now soon be over and the United Kingdom nationals can once again feel pride and self-confidence in their own nationality when travelling, just as the Swiss and Americans can do. “National identity matters and there is no better way of demonstrating this today than by bringing back this much-loved national symbol when travelling overseas.” This just totally reminded me of 'The Day Today'. We are in a Twilight Zone where 20-year-old satire is now occurring in real life. Imagine Peter O-hanra-ohanrahan interviewing a Tory MP as he says all this. Somehow it makes it easier to bear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 24 minutes ago, MattP said: I'm not dreaming about anything, I'm explaining to you why I'm proud of my identity and my nation. Though I suppose someone who still believes in socialism has to blank out history, a bit like an adult who still wants to believe in Santa Claus. Not really. Somebody who believes in tory economic competence has to blank out most of the last 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 3 minutes ago, toddybad said: Not really. Somebody who believes in tory economic competence has to blank out most of the last 50 years. Merry Xmas mate, this one is for you and your next passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellend Sebastian Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 17 minutes ago, MattP said: Merry Xmas mate, this one is for you and your next passport. I thought that said Elvis and Martine McCutcheon for a minute there. What a dream pairing that would have been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 4 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said: I thought that said Elvis and Martine McCutcheon for a minute there. What a dream pairing that would have been It would be a perfect moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alf Bentley Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 13 minutes ago, Bellend Sebastian said: I thought that said Elvis and Martine McCutcheon for a minute there. What a dream pairing that would have been Elvis Costello and Martina Navratilova would have been even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 27 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said: Elvis Costello and Martina Navratilova would have been even better. Or Elvis Hammond and Cuco Martina. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleronnie Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 I'd imagine all the UKIP voters secretly taking the blue passport into the bathroom for a 5 finger shuffle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lifted*fox Posted 22 December 2017 Share Posted 22 December 2017 embarrassing behaviour getting all gassed over the colour of a passport. as if it being blue has **** all to do with maintaining national identity. ****ing idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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