A little bit disenchanted

[dan_fox]

Uninspired sums up this preseason for me.

 

Uninspired with the management choice, uninspired with the transfer activity and uninspired with the lack of ambition. Like most have said already, it's hard as expectations have been set way too high since winning the league.

[Arriba Los Zorros]

19 hours ago, Bayfox said:

What worries me now, is that after what 6 or so years of being rubbish and floating around the bottom of the championship, pearson brought some pride, a winning mentality and a direction back to our club, and the Title win, was the icing on the cake, whoever played what part in it, the off the field side seemed sorted, now it seems to have eroded, I was hopeful shakey would bring some of that back, after all I think he was exactly what was needed at the time, but after that initial bounce, the results at the end of the season were worrying, and watching pre-season so far, although I believe tatter peeler had us unbeaten pre-season and that turned out badly.

This is the issue for me, I felt we grew a real identity and desire under NP, much like what Burnley have under Sean Dyche or Bournemouth under Howe, the whole club pulling in one direction.

 

Becoming accustomed to the come down after the title win as well as the gradual loss of our identity (we just seem another run of the mill PL club now) may be what is bringing on this feeling OP, because I feel it too. Less proud of the club and less connected than I did 4/5 years back, despite our achievements since.

[Bossman Blessed It]

20 hours ago, foxfanazer said:

This is going to sound ridiculous but I'm sure there will be some people that agree with me.

 

The title winning season was out of this world and I'll take memories from it they will stay with me for life, but.......... since then a bit of the romanticism of supporting Leicester has gone for me and I'm feeling a little bit disillusioned with what our club is becoming.

 

We don't see to be following the same blueprint and strong infrastructure that lead us to our unlikely successes. Now I don't want to make this another Pearson debate but it's hard to argue that we had solid foundations and some sort of vision when it came to recruitment under him. At the moment everything seems a bit wishy washy and hoping that if we throw enough shit some will stick.

 

Dont get me wrong I still love the club and come the first game of the season I'll be in attendance but I feel like we've probably peaked and the people at the club don't really know where to go from here.

 

Fully expect to be slated for this but, thoughts?

 

Don't think you deserve to be slated at all for saying it - it's certainly what most of us probably think. Particularly when that final whistle blew, the magic dust seemed to lift off our club a little.

 

The issue with this line of thought centres more on the fact that we had players performing as a unit, way, way beyond their expectations. Trying to unearth the next Kante is impossible - there is only one, we found him on the cheap and now he's the best DM in the world. Scouring through the lower French tier for the next Mahrez won't work, because there really is only one player as gifted as Mahrez there, we found him and he became the player of the season. And although we've even tried by signing a couple - the English conference isn't full of Jamie Vardy's. We took a risk on him, nurtured him and ended up with one of the best strikers in the PL. 

 

Should we sign Iheanacho and perhaps another creative player, we have everything set up to push for a Europa league place - we've become exactly what we've always dreamed of; a stable, Premier League team. As much as it might seem boring, I reckon it best to just ride the wave for a while - no doubt there'll be some more drama ready to unfold.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

10 hours ago, murphy said:

What's wrong with you all?

 

How many other clubs our size can say that within the premiership era they have won league one, won the championship, all the wembley play off finals, won two league cups plus runners up, quarter finalists in the champions league and won the premier league itself?

 

What a ride!  I bet West Brom would love our problems!

I think you're missing the point, I think a lot of people are thinking we've done everything in the last 10 years that a club like ours could possibly ever hope to do (aside from winning the FA Cup and no one on here seems that bothered about doing that). Like Nod.e said, "What next"? What could possibly be better than what we've experienced recently?

 

You mentioned West Brom but they've got the possibility of all that to come, which keeps them hooked. Interestingly I was watching that documentary on Usain Bolt last night, he was talking about how hard it was to motivate himself after winning everything there was to be won. I think that's what we're experiencing right now. 

[Gerard]

8 hours ago, Swan Lesta said:

 

 

We took football heroin.

 

Nothing for a very long time will ever be the same.

 

We have to be okay with that or foxestalks worst sides of us comes out.

 

We completed football and nothing can be the same again.

 

 

 

 

What a brilliant line.

 

After such a high there was always going to be a comedown. The two things go hand in hand, you can't experience such a positive emotion without paying a bit back somewhere down the line.

 

If after we won the league we turned into a club of Real Madrid's stature then we'd be a set of those fans who win something and barely celebrate it unlike the maniacs we turned into in 2016.

 

Even if you got to bed any woman of your choice and inherited £100 billion quid the fantasy would still be better than the reality. There is always a pay off.

[foxy boxing]

I think the feeling comes from we have had the greatest high the club has known and with the European adventure too we were just doing things that everyone thought was unbelievable and fans of other clubs were with us too and we were the most popular club in the world at one point with everyone wanting to know us and have a piece of us but now that has all gone and we are left with trying to show everyone that we are not just a one off but can compete regularly and to try and break in permanently to the big time!. the flatness for fans is that with the recruitment since the win has not been great and everyone is a little unsure if Shaky can deliver something or whether we will just be mid table obscurity

[Izzet is God]

Most successful period in our history and people are moaning...

 

Got to love some our fans. 

[Lovejoy]

I remember rocking up at Luton away first game of 06/07 under Rob "Cracking Bunch Of Lads" Kelly and watching us get lumped 2-0.

 

I'll take this.

[CosbehFox]

37 minutes ago, Izzet is God said:

Most successful period in our history and people are moaning...

 

Got to love some our fans. 

Once again completely missing the point. 

[Izzet is God]

1 minute ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Once again completely missing the point. 

There shouldn't be a point.

 

If the 'point' is that people are disheartened and feel we aren't pushing on from our success recently then they need to understand that we are not Chelsea in the early 00's or a modern day Man City.

 

We are Leicester! If you generally can't see what we have achieved is a miracle that we probably never could have dreamed of producing, and furthermore are probably about where we should be in aiming to be a top 10 prem club this season. Then I for one, feel for you all that cannot live in reality and understand it takes years to establish any sort of top level success.

 

As others have put, Rome wasn't built in a day. Or in our case, a season.

[CosbehFox]

5 minutes ago, Izzet is God said:

There shouldn't be a point.

 

If the 'point' is that people are disheartened and feel we aren't pushing on from our success recently then they need to understand that we are not Chelsea in the early 00's or a modern day Man City.

 

We are Leicester! If you generally can't see what we have achieved is a miracle that we probably never could have dreamed of producing, and furthermore are probably about where we should be in aiming to be a top 10 prem club this season. Then I for one, feel for you all that cannot live in reality and understand it takes years to establish any sort of top level success.

 

As others have put, Rome wasn't built in a day. Or in our case, a season.

 

You are still missing the point and in fact you are nearer to me than I think. 

 

There are two types of people 'disenchanted' on here. Those that are unhappy with signings etc and those of us like me are disappointed how the club is becoming soulless to which the success has been a spur. 

 

 

 

[murphy]

2 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

I think you're missing the point, I think a lot of people are thinking we've done everything in the last 10 years that a club like ours could possibly ever hope to do (aside from winning the FA Cup and no one on here seems that bothered about doing that). Like Nod.e said, "What next"? What could possibly be better than what we've experienced recently?

 

You mentioned West Brom but they've got the possibility of all that to come, which keeps them hooked. Interestingly I was watching that documentary on Usain Bolt last night, he was talking about how hard it was to motivate himself after winning everything there was to be won. I think that's what we're experiencing right now. 

Right, perhaps I did miss the point, so this is the crash after the high?

 

I still don't get these feelings though, this thread has shocked me somewhat.  Some people saying that football is not just about winning and they don't care about the result.  Football for me is about the magic moments that we will look back on in years to come and this club gives us plenty.  It is not about just ploughing the same old furrow like Stoke and West Brom.  As for results, defeat will ruin my weekend whereas I will wallow in victory for days.  It matters to me.

 

So just the FA cup to go then?    That matters to me too.

 

I've gotta say, a lot of people sounding like spoiled brats.  You all need to kick yourselves up the arse and get your mojo back!

[HighPeakFox]

2 hours ago, Gerard said:

 

What a brilliant line.

 

After such a high there was always going to be a comedown. The two things go hand in hand, you can't experience such a positive emotion without paying a bit back somewhere down the line.

 

If after we won the league we turned into a club of Real Madrid's stature then we'd be a set of those fans who win something and barely celebrate it unlike the maniacs we turned into in 2016.

 

Even if you got to bed any woman of your choice and inherited £100 billion quid the fantasy would still be better than the reality. There is always a pay off.

Totally.

[gw_leics772]

English football - completed it!

 

Just trade it in for a new game and start again or buckle down and keep going for the champions league.

[Footballwipe]

Incredible how people ARE completely missing the point with their petty little insults about how we're moaning or brats.

 

No-one is moaning, no one would trade 2015-16, or 2013-2016 and the UCL run for anything. What we're saying is that it's bought a populism, a strategic drive from the club and move towards that echelon of corporate marketing that we were previously immune to.

 

It's bought a clamour for home and away tickets beyond what we've ever experienced, to a level where people are attending but contributing nothing to the atmosphere. Try and tell me in a silent home/away end it's not disenchanting, especially when you've experienced some of those spectacular away ends in recent years. The football heroin line is genius, it's spot on.

 

When we missed out on promotion in 2010 and 2013 it took me ages to get back into the swing of things. I was a bit flat. Now imagine coming off the best season you KNOW you'll ever experience, add in pathetic away performances and a shoddy title defence and tell me you didn't feel flat? The UCL run was a sticking plaster.

 

Next Friday will be a huge buzz. London away day, opening game of the season, all eyes on us (again) but that doesn't detract from the fact it won't be 15-16, it won't be that high, that "heroin" and when we get to the winter months and we're losing 3-0 away from home in a silent crowd, I probably will feel disenchanted.

 

But it won't stop me, or anyone, loving the club

[Voll Blau]

1 hour ago, Footballwipe said:

Incredible how people ARE completely missing the point with their petty little insults about how we're moaning or brats.

 

No-one is moaning, no one would trade 2015-16, or 2013-2016 and the UCL run for anything. What we're saying is that it's bought a populism, a strategic drive from the club and move towards that echelon of corporate marketing that we were previously immune to.

 

It's bought a clamour for home and away tickets beyond what we've ever experienced, to a level where people are attending but contributing nothing to the atmosphere. Try and tell me in a silent home/away end it's not disenchanting, especially when you've experienced some of those spectacular away ends in recent years. The football heroin line is genius, it's spot on.

 

When we missed out on promotion in 2010 and 2013 it took me ages to get back into the swing of things. I was a bit flat. Now imagine coming off the best season you KNOW you'll ever experience, add in pathetic away performances and a shoddy title defence and tell me you didn't feel flat? The UCL run was a sticking plaster.

 

Next Friday will be a huge buzz. London away day, opening game of the season, all eyes on us (again) but that doesn't detract from the fact it won't be 15-16, it won't be that high, that "heroin" and when we get to the winter months and we're losing 3-0 away from home in a silent crowd, I probably will feel disenchanted.

 

But it won't stop me, or anyone, loving the club

Absolutely spot on. The great irony here is that the kind of folks who ARE brats are the kind who more and more seem to be the ones found in our away ends.

 

People made every kind of excuse under the sun for how poor our Euro ends were (too pissed, too hot, too cold, too tired, "singers" too spread out, shit football). If you weren't up for getting behind our team at those moments, no matter what state you were in, I question why the hell you were there in the first place.

 

I genuinely don't think any other English club in that position would have offered support as poor as ours abroad.

[KingsX]

Of all the Silly Season threads, this for me is the one worth reading every post.

 

Some of our cr@p, you just assume (or hope) the club is taking zero notice.  This thread should be printed out and passed around the offices.

[Chico1958]

 

The best Roller Coaster I've ever neen on......... Long may it continue

 

And I don't want to get off......... Bring it on

[murphy]

33 minutes ago, KingsX said:

Of all the Silly Season threads, this for me is the one worth reading every post.

 

Some of our cr@p, you just assume (or hope) the club is taking zero notice.  This thread should be printed out and passed around the offices.

Or kept in storage for another 10 years to be re read when we're playing Crewe away again which some people seem to be yearning for.

 

Ah, the good old days of Holloway and Megson, things were so much better then. 

Edited 1 August 2017 by murphy

[Corky]

5 hours ago, Izzet is God said:

There shouldn't be a point.

 

If the 'point' is that people are disheartened and feel we aren't pushing on from our success recently then they need to understand that we are not Chelsea in the early 00's or a modern day Man City.

 

We are Leicester! If you generally can't see what we have achieved is a miracle that we probably never could have dreamed of producing, and furthermore are probably about where we should be in aiming to be a top 10 prem club this season. Then I for one, feel for you all that cannot live in reality and understand it takes years to establish any sort of top level success.

 

As others have put, Rome wasn't built in a day. Or in our case, a season.

I'd want the goal music removed and the pictures of historical moments and former greats put around the stadium if we are top of the Premier League or 16th in League Two.

 

I accept we aren't going to win every game so I'd rather focus on things we could do.

[CosbehFox]

24 minutes ago, murphy said:

Or kept in storage for another 10 years to be re read when we're playing Crewe away again which some people seem to be yearning for.

 

Ah, the good old days of Holloway and Megson, things were so much better then. 

Again for the umpteenth time it has very little to do with on the pitch. 

[murphy]

1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Again for the umpteenth time it has very little to do with on the pitch. 

Maybe for you.

 

But I am reading people reminiscing about League one, Yeovil and Orient.  It is there in black and white read it.  People almost envious that West Brom haven't won the league because they can still dream of winning it.  Ridiculous.

 

So for you, if it is the 'soulless' nature of corporate football, well wlecome to the modern world, it's been here a while and it's the same for everyone.

[TMELcfc]

We're going down

[foxfanazer]

Didn't think it would be such a controversial thread. See some have used it to flex their 'I'm more of a fan' muscles. 

[HighPeakFox]

7 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Didn't think it would be such a controversial thread. See some have used it to flex their 'I'm more of a fan' muscles. 

Did you learn nothing during the last 3,808 posts?