Babylon Posted 14 November 2017 Posted 14 November 2017 10 hours ago, Wymeswold fox said: He's annoyed (and quite rightly so imo) with the club as he wanted this to be a secret, but people from the club told others about this Forest Hill Golf Club proposal.. It's nigh on impossible to do so though, it's easy for a couple of people their end to keep quiet, but the club are going to have a large number of people involved, not all of whom actually work at the club, from solicitors, to architects etc etc. It's not like Rudkin and Vichai can do it all themselves.
dynamark Posted 14 November 2017 Posted 14 November 2017 Thanks Whwy and mum. So its seems an option is in place. In terms of it leaking out from FHGC he has to look very close to home as he and fellow directors should have been the only ones in the know and they should not have breathed a word to anyone including family members probably.Of course leaks may have come from LCFC. There is still a strong covenant in the title re public leisure use. 1
Babylon Posted 14 November 2017 Posted 14 November 2017 4 minutes ago, dynamark said: Thanks Whwy and mum. So its seems an option is in place. In terms of it leaking out from FHGC he has to look very close to home as he and fellow directors should have been the only ones in the know and they should not have breathed a word to anyone including family members probably.Of course leaks may have come from LCFC. There is still a strong covenant in the title re public leisure use. If they are taking a leaf out of Man City's books, then they will be going along the lines "community" facilities onsite also, which would probably enable them to swing that one.
Wymsey Posted 14 November 2017 Posted 14 November 2017 4 minutes ago, dynamark said: Thanks Whwy and mum. So its seems an option is in place. In terms of it leaking out from FHGC he has to look very close to home as he and fellow directors should have been the only ones in the know and they should not have breathed a word to anyone including family members probably.Of course leaks may have come from LCFC. There is still a strong covenant in the title re public leisure use. Agree. As you'd mentioned earlier in the thread, it's true that the club has lost members and is in danger of losing significantly more. Maybe the golf members there should've had some form of vote about this internally, for example getting their views across about the proposal by LCFC. Although what I understand is that Leki owns the place, so he has the final say and not willing to take in others' views on it.
dynamark Posted 14 November 2017 Posted 14 November 2017 They owners can do what they wish in terms of effectively closing down the club and walking away with a large cheque - but they are in danger of standing alone in an empty golf club next Aoril.If this deal now falls through the business/income and any trust people had is badly damaged.Not only that staff and customers will be on their way over the next few months.for certain.There is a deal of bad feeling all round. These guys have had their difficult times over the years they have had stewardship but they have their eyes open done Ok and are doing reasonably well now.They like to make a few bob and know how to do it. I wish LCFC well at a new location but great shame if that means the demise of the golf course. Trilby tour recently on Sky was there in August
jamesmilner Posted 14 November 2017 Posted 14 November 2017 On 11/12/2017 at 18:08, jammie82uk said: It’s not just that, they have no privacy at Belvoir drive with the houses over looking the place They can not have the lights on at certain times etc etc too , the residents wont be happy when its sold for a housing development tho . And i can honestly say the day shakey got sacked was the day of the meeting to confirm its going to happen . of course theres certain things to be put in place with planning etc .
The US Fox Posted 14 November 2017 Posted 14 November 2017 Given how “certain” everyone is, why haven’t the papers ran anything given the size of the investment and all these sources everyone claims to have? A close contact from the Mercury stated there is NO done deal or deposit changed hands with any proposed site. Rather LCFC have enquired around 6 sites across the county but no decision made. I read elsewhere a site in Loughborough was the favourite?! What is definite and clear for everyone to see is Forest Hill is for sale and has been for a couple of years. For a “done deal” the owners seem to be spending a lot of money to raise the profile of the place as a Golf Club with the Sky Sports Trilby Tour. Why would they do that and waste money hosting that?! Here’s an idea why don’t the disgruntled members have a whip round and buy it instead of moaning about rumours or LCFC ?! Move on gents, this site is about LCFC not some golf club rumour mill....
Wymsey Posted 14 November 2017 Posted 14 November 2017 (edited) I don't think a business owner would lie in saying that a deposit received from a multi-million pound company who wants their site just to fuel rumours, rumours that he feels are being spread out too much. As this owner said, which I mentioned yesterday, it's still in "very early stages" - so that's why any plan/project there hasn't been fully-unveiled by the local press. Any deal could still potentially collapse of course. Chill out..you actually ironically seem as disgruntled by this as a couple of others imo. And it's a discussion linked with the main football club in the city of Leicester, if you didn't know.. Edited 14 November 2017 by Wymeswold fox 1
The US Fox Posted 14 November 2017 Posted 14 November 2017 11 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: I don't think a business owner would lie in saying that a deposit received from a multi-million pound company who wants their site just to fuel rumours, rumours that he feels are being spread out too much. As this owner said, which I mentioned yesterday, it's still in "very early stages" - so that's why plan/project hasn't been fully-unveiled by the local press. Any deal could still potentially collapse of course. Chill out..you actually ironically seem disgruntled by this imo. It's a discussion linked with the main football club in the city of Leicester, if you didn't know.. Not so much disgruntled as I’m not a golfer just more reading the rumours drag on. As for the press, they only need a hint of a story and they’ll go to print. My Mercury contact was aware of the FH rumours and the “done deal perception. Clearly this rumour has caught the wind. However the Loughborough site is my tip and under lock and key in terms of the actual site. I’m informed better location and better terrain than other sites visited. My bigger concern is the court case in Thailand and the impact that’ll have to any training ground and growth of the club. Let’s see how it all plays out...
Wymsey Posted 14 November 2017 Posted 14 November 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, The US Fox said: Not so much disgruntled as I’m not a golfer just more reading the rumours drag on. As for the press, they only need a hint of a story and they’ll go to print. My Mercury contact was aware of the FH rumours and the “done deal perception. Clearly this rumour has caught the wind. However the Loughborough site is my tip and under lock and key in terms of the actual site. I’m informed better location and better terrain than other sites visited. My bigger concern is the court case in Thailand and the impact that’ll have to any training ground and growth of the club. Let’s see how it all plays out... There's has been past rumours of an area close to/or on some part of Loughborough University that had been thought of an area of interest for the club in the future. Indeed, based on this thread, it'll be interesting to see what actually will happen in the not too distant future. But don't think the club is rushing into things on this, especially with of course the Thai money reports circulating around the owners at the moment. Thanks for turning the tide on this situation, btw. Edited 15 November 2017 by Wymeswold fox
los dedos Posted 15 November 2017 Posted 15 November 2017 8 hours ago, The US Fox said: Not so much disgruntled as I’m not a golfer just more reading the rumours drag on. As for the press, they only need a hint of a story and they’ll go to print. My Mercury contact was aware of the FH rumours and the “done deal perception. Clearly this rumour has caught the wind. However the Loughborough site is my tip and under lock and key in terms of the actual site. I’m informed better location and better terrain than other sites visited. My bigger concern is the court case in Thailand and the impact that’ll have to any training ground and growth of the club. Let’s see how it all plays out... Think you could be right as this area looks far more suitable.Already a hotel nearby as well as been on the door step of the uni.Oh and a golf course
dynamark Posted 15 November 2017 Posted 15 November 2017 That's more like it.Let Longcliffe suffer. Seriously Charnwood Council likely to be more receptive to this type of top level sports set up,its what they do in Loughborough after all.
Wymsey Posted 15 November 2017 Posted 15 November 2017 What would happen to Belvior Drive when a new training ground. where ever it will be, is installed? Perhaps social housing to fit in with the area? 1
Tuna Posted 15 November 2017 Posted 15 November 2017 2 hours ago, los dedos said: Think you could be right as this area looks far more suitable.Already a hotel nearby as well as been on the door step of the uni.Oh and a golf course Looks like a sensible location with the close proximity to the M1 and away from the centre of town.
davieG Posted 15 November 2017 Posted 15 November 2017 Not very healthy for outdoor activities but then where is these days.
Wymsey Posted 15 November 2017 Posted 15 November 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, dynamark said: That's more like it.Let Longcliffe suffer. Seriously Charnwood Council likely to be more receptive to this type of top level sports set up,its what they do in Loughborough after all. They'd probably consider it more if Loughborough University can own/use some part of it. Edited 15 November 2017 by Wymeswold fox
dynamark Posted 15 November 2017 Posted 15 November 2017 Its a fit for Loughborough. .My daughter applied for Loughborough Uni and they basically take elite sports persons over other factors.They want the best performers in each area and other parts of your CV and academic ability come in a distant second. Starting to look forward to Saturday afternoon now .
Guest Bob Hazels shorts Posted 15 November 2017 Posted 15 November 2017 5 hours ago, los dedos said: Think you could be right as this area looks far more suitable.Already a hotel nearby as well as been on the door step of the uni.Oh and a golf course Not a chance. That area is earmarked for a business and science park As with the neighbouring Holywell park the money put in to research particularly power/ battery etc goes into many millions or was, possibly billions now . Fact LCFC were going to share sports and gym etc facilities but not exclusive. Many sports science staff are from there and went back temporarily when Sousa kicked them out. Did not happen for whatever reason, and will not happen
ian_marshall Posted 15 November 2017 Posted 15 November 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Bob Hazels shorts said: Not a chance. That area is earmarked for a business and science park As with the neighbouring Holywell park the money put in to research particularly power/ battery etc goes into many millions or was, possibly billions now . Fact LCFC were going to share sports and gym etc facilities but not exclusive. Many sports science staff are from there and went back temporarily when Sousa kicked them out. Did not happen for whatever reason, and will not happen Completely agree. No chance of building in this area unless the club buy the golf course. The area in red is already under construction to expand the technology park which is owned by the University, the yellow area has had a planning application accepted by the local council for a large housing development, and the old quarry highlighted in purple has a planning application approved for an incinerator. The only other site is the farm in the middle (next to the golf course) but it's currently a working farm and the terrain isn't flat so it would cost a small fortune to level which I don't think would be very cost effective. Not sure where else in Loughborough the club could build near to the M1. Only other thoughts are maybe around the Castle Donnington area due to its transport links, airport, roads, rail, etc. Plenty of land around that area. Edited 15 November 2017 by ian_marshall 1
Beechey Posted 15 November 2017 Posted 15 November 2017 This is odd, I was told by my personal tutor at Loughborough that the university owns land all the way to the M1 for potential future development.
ian_marshall Posted 15 November 2017 Posted 15 November 2017 16 minutes ago, Beechey said: This is odd, I was told by my personal tutor at Loughborough that the university owns land all the way to the M1 for potential future development. As far as I'm aware they only own the land up to Snells Nook Lane. I believe the farm belongs to the Trustees of the Grace Dieu and Longcliffe Estate. Whether there is an agreement that the University has first refusal on the land I couldn't tell you. The land across the road has plans approved for a huge housing estate between Loughborough and Hathern around Garendon Park, so that land definitely isn't owned by the University.
Ian Nacho Posted 15 November 2017 Posted 15 November 2017 Any update? Can't be bothered to read the entire thread. 1
st albans fox Posted 16 November 2017 Posted 16 November 2017 11 hours ago, Ian Nacho said: Any update? Can't be bothered to read the entire thread. The mockery say its forest hills but no firm bid has been submitted and it’s not known if planning would be granted. They may also be looking at other sites
davieG Posted 16 November 2017 Posted 16 November 2017 46 minutes ago, st albans fox said: The mockery say its forest hills but no firm bid has been submitted and it’s not known if planning would be granted. They may also be looking at other sites The merc get a lot of their news off here or it may be just a coincidence that they publish a lot a day or 2 after it's appeared on here. 1
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