Time to stand up and be counted, Who moaned that Puel would bring us boring football

[Bunyip]

1 hour ago, Donut said:

To be fair, winning the Premier League is a f*****g big swallow.....or a whole flock of them.

 

So making a post to suggest Ranieri failed is somewhat strange. Unless you thought we would go up another level.

I think getting the sack has something to do with failing? He was on his way to taking us down another level or did you miss that bit?

Edited 29 January 2018 by Bunyip

[volpeazzurro]

39 minutes ago, Bunyip said:

I think getting the sack has something to do with failing? He was on his way to taking us down another level or did you miss that bit?

No, I think he'd have kept us up on the last day of the season and this year we'd have won it again, it's the Leicester way surely? ?

[SheppyFox]

I thought it was clear he’d be an improvement on Shakespeare at the very least, turns out he’s a real gem. You really only had to scratch the surface of Southampton’s statistics to see he did well with a terrible squad, their fans are obviously just harsh. 

[Donut]

1 hour ago, Bunyip said:

I think getting the sack has something to do with failing? He was on his way to taking us down another level or did you miss that bit?

I think you're mental mate.

 

You obviously missed the part where we had the biggest success in our history.

 

By your logic Brian Clough was a failure at Forest and Jose Mourinho was at Chelsea, because when they left, they were lower at that point than when they won leagues and European cups.

 

So unless you win the league or attain a higher position every single season you've failed.

 

And that's why youre mental.

[jayfox26]

I was just glad we didn't end up with Pardew or Coleman. I wasn't unhappy with the appointment but at the time I wanted Dyche. Looking back, I'm not sure Dyche would have done as well as Puel has so far. I always thought Puel would do a decent job but I never realised how quickly he would transform our playing style and get us playing good football. We've had a few rough times like Palace and Watford away but generally I've been very impressed with him. And his only signing so far looks like he could be the next Mahrez for us. Bought pretty cheap and looks a real talent!

[SheppyFox]

Puel has made massive strides toward making us a footballing side, although we probably won’t win the league under him, I do think we’ll be consistently 5-8th in the PL and will regularly do well in cups under his guidance.

 

Ranieri had no confidence in our passing ability and neither did Shakespeare, Puel has proven both wrong on that level, really think we’ve got it right with his appointment. 

[Dan]

2 hours ago, Bunyip said:

I think getting the sack has something to do with failing? He was on his way to taking us down another level or did you miss that bit?

That is true, but it's still harsh to call him a failure. He was definitely taking us down but we still did achieve something miraculous with him there.

[UpTheLeagueFox]

Ranieri (sadly) lost the plot in the second season but he can never ever be classed as an overall failure with us.

[Pascal]

Calling someone who brought the team a title a failure is inappropriate. Even successful people can reach the end of their cycle. It came pretty quickly with Ranieri, but that doesn't diminish in any way his achievements at his peak.

 

Even people who divorce usually don't pretend that there was never any love between them...

[southfox66]

Yes I will admit I was one of the moaners but it was based on his record at Southampton and the comments that came from people attached to that club but having seen the massive steps he made with us already  I'll admit I was wrong and we at the dawn of a new era if Puel is allowed to get on with the job we have the young players who will take us forward and they will given every chance under Puel we already have a core of young players  that could be together for another 8 seasons and will attract better players than we could have ever done prior to us winning the title within the next few seasons we could be up there with likes of arsenal spurs and Liverpool pushing the top 3. 

Edited 29 January 2018 by southfox66

[HighPeakFox]

1 hour ago, southfox66 said:

Yes I will admit I was one of the moaners but it was based on his record at Southampton and the comments that came from people attached to that club but having seen the massive steps he made with us already  I'll admit I was wrong and we at the dawn of a new era if Puel is allowed to get on with the job we have the young players who will take us forward and they will given every chance under Puel we already have a core of young players  that could be together for another 8 seasons and will attract better players than we could have ever done prior to us winning the title within the next few seasons we could be up there with likes of arsenal spurs and Liverpool pushing the top 3. 

Bet you couldn't say that without having to take a breath.

[Foxxed]

It was a bit ridiculous people who so against him even before he'd played a game. But really: opinionated football fans on the internet proved to be wrong? It's a scandal!

[melrose]

I am yet to make it through to the end of one of his post match interviews

But that bit about him doesn't really matter, it's results that count

[Blue ROI]

It looked underwhelming the day he was announced but just before the first game v Everton I was starting to be convinced he was a good option. A fair record in France and it wasnt like his time at Southampton was a Taylor/Holloway sized disaster.

 

The results couldn't really have gone any better apart from Palace/Watford.

 

Above all else Claude looks to have got the club back to the stability that we had under Pearson. Atletico at home last April had the end of an era feel to it and I had doubts that we would ever get back to where we were from 2009 onwards (take out Pearsons gap season or so)but he's managed something close to it.

 

Spurs at home was magic and a sure sign we were onto a winner.

 

[smr]

Not bullshitting at all here but the game before shakespeare got sacked at home... i was exasperated by that point with how we were playing and just said to my dad "hes got to go, give him a couple more games but if no improvement he has to go. Weve got talented players here, why arent we passing the ****ing thing on the floor. We need someone to manage us that passes the ball about on the ground."

 

The next day Shakespeare got sacked. 

 

Names were banded about and i was feeling a fair amount of trepidation at the thoughts of pardew etc. All our hard work would be undone and wed slip away into the ether,  a shadow of our former glory.

 

For me I was thinking dyche would get the job and I thought he would do well.

 

Then Puel was announced. I didnt really know much about him tbh. Dont really remember him much from his Soton stint but then looked at why he was sacked...a bit of a head scratcher tbh.. i remember watching the league cup final thinking he did well to get them there. And finishing 8th isnt bad for Soton is it?

 

What I did like was how he presented himself in that first radio phone in... well dressed, calm, cautious. Reminded me i didnt want someone to come in and manage our club with a bull in a china shop attitude or some drama queen. We needed a calm, relaxed and intelligent man to see what was going wrong and why and get us playing the football our players are capable of. 

 

First game at Everton was where I knew we had got the right man. It was obvious instantly he had already drilled and instilled the mentality and ideology of passing the ball around quickly on the deck. And it was fast, yet dynamic and he was smart enough to understand that whilst we need more possession we have to play to our other strength which is a fast, fluid counter attack and he has taught the players a style of football which is dynamic, exciting and fast paced but football, passing, not hoofing.

 

I must say that his first few interviews i could have dozed off to them but for some reason he doesnt sound as monotone and too softly spoken anymore, or maybe ive got used to it, but i couldnt really care less. 

 

Apart from thinking that ive never had a bad word or said anything negative about him hes been an absolute class act for us.

[Bunyip]

19 hours ago, Donut said:

I think you're mental mate.

 

You obviously missed the part where we had the biggest success in our history.

 

By your logic Brian Clough was a failure at Forest and Jose Mourinho was at Chelsea, because when they left, they were lower at that point than when they won leagues and European cups.

 

So unless you win the league or attain a higher position every single season you've failed.

 

And that's why youre mental.

So you had to call me mental twice eh? You lose. Ranieri was a lucky jockey that climbed on board an already winning horse. Yes, he guided it well and quite rightly took the plaudits for the most remarkable sporting achievement of all time. Then came the next season. I don't think there is any doubt had he not been sacked we would have gone down. His real failure was in his inability to capitalise on what we had achieved. Had we finished mid-table he would still be with us, he left the owners with no other choice. All in all, I think the word failure is appropriate in terms of getting the sack in only his second season with us. Call me mental but hey ho!

[Guest Col city fan]

15 hours ago, HighPeakFox said:

Bet you couldn't say that without having to take a breath.

 

[Nalis]

18 hours ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

Ranieri (sadly) lost the plot in the second season but he can never ever be classed as an overall failure with us.

 

I completely agree.

 

It baffles me that some see it that way because of how it ultimately ended rather than what we achieved on the journey.

[Vulpine Victor]

21 hours ago, Bunyip said:

I think getting the sack has something to do with failing? He was on his way to taking us down another level or did you miss that bit?

If winning the Premier League and then losing games the next season is failure, I hope all our managers fail in the same manner, just as Chelsea do.

[HighPeakFox]

17 minutes ago, Vulpine Victor said:

If winning the Premier League and then losing games the next season is failure, I hope all our managers fail in the same manner, just as Chelsea do.

Don't forget, apparently Guardiola is a fraud, according to some. 

[Dan]

16 hours ago, smr said:

Not bullshitting at all here but the game before shakespeare got sacked at home... i was exasperated by that point with how we were playing and just said to my dad "hes got to go, give him a couple more games but if no improvement he has to go. Weve got talented players here, why arent we passing the ****ing thing on the floor. We need someone to manage us that passes the ball about on the ground."

 

The next day Shakespeare got sacked. 

 

Names were banded about and i was feeling a fair amount of trepidation at the thoughts of pardew etc. All our hard work would be undone and wed slip away into the ether,  a shadow of our former glory.

 

For me I was thinking dyche would get the job and I thought he would do well.

 

Then Puel was announced. I didnt really know much about him tbh. Dont really remember him much from his Soton stint but then looked at why he was sacked...a bit of a head scratcher tbh.. i remember watching the league cup final thinking he did well to get them there. And finishing 8th isnt bad for Soton is it?

 

What I did like was how he presented himself in that first radio phone in... well dressed, calm, cautious. Reminded me i didnt want someone to come in and manage our club with a bull in a china shop attitude or some drama queen. We needed a calm, relaxed and intelligent man to see what was going wrong and why and get us playing the football our players are capable of. 

 

First game at Everton was where I knew we had got the right man. It was obvious instantly he had already drilled and instilled the mentality and ideology of passing the ball around quickly on the deck. And it was fast, yet dynamic and he was smart enough to understand that whilst we need more possession we have to play to our other strength which is a fast, fluid counter attack and he has taught the players a style of football which is dynamic, exciting and fast paced but football, passing, not hoofing.

 

I must say that his first few interviews i could have dozed off to them but for some reason he doesnt sound as monotone and too softly spoken anymore, or maybe ive got used to it, but i couldnt really care less. 

 

Apart from thinking that ive never had a bad word or said anything negative about him hes been an absolute class act for us.

Agree with basically all of that. I warmed to Puel very quickly actually.

[TiffToff88]

I never complained about him possibly bringing boring football - I said if he got us into the top 8 and a cup final i wouldn't care how entertaining it was

[Bluetintedspecs]

I didn't know a great deal about him tbh, I'm delighted at his progress and philosophy and that our improving squad has bought into him and what they are producing is excellent!

[Donut]

4 hours ago, Bunyip said:

So you had to call me mental twice eh? You lose. Ranieri was a lucky jockey that climbed on board an already winning horse. Yes, he guided it well and quite rightly took the plaudits for the most remarkable sporting achievement of all time. Then came the next season. I don't think there is any doubt had he not been sacked we would have gone down. His real failure was in his inability to capitalise on what we had achieved. Had we finished mid-table he would still be with us, he left the owners with no other choice. All in all, I think the word failure is appropriate in terms of getting the sack in only his second season with us. Call me mental but hey ho!

HE DIDNT FAIL YOU FOOL!

 

Jesus, give it up. Im not arguing about this rubbish.

 

He won the Premier League.

 

A "lucky jockey that climbed on board an already winning horse"......f**k me go and have a lie down you twat

[Donut]

4 hours ago, Bunyip said:

So you had to call me mental twice eh? You lose. Ranieri was a lucky jockey that climbed on board an already winning horse. Yes, he guided it well and quite rightly took the plaudits for the most remarkable sporting achievement of all time. Then came the next season. I don't think there is any doubt had he not been sacked we would have gone down. His real failure was in his inability to capitalise on what we had achieved. Had we finished mid-table he would still be with us, he left the owners with no other choice. All in all, I think the word failure is appropriate in terms of getting the sack in only his second season with us. Call me mental but hey ho!

And for f**s sake don't quote me back either, im really not interested in debating this total nonsense viewpoint you have, end of story.