Our system detected that your browser is blocking advertisements on our site. Please help support FoxesTalk by disabling any kind of ad blocker while browsing this site. Thank you.
Jump to content
Finnegan

Grow up and get behind Riyad, or: stop listening to the press and wait and see how he reacts on the pitch

Recommended Posts

Posted
1 hour ago, SamDZ said:

Not heard he was there, he negotiated and agreed personal terms maybe since summer window,  Guardiola confirmed  that.

I just hope that the Mahrez situation will not distract the rest of the players, the club are in a strong position in the league and still in the Cup i just hope that our season will not fizzle out, the players need to stay positive and focus on beating Swansea on Saturday, if Mahrez does decide to turn up for training and gets picked for Saturday them we all need to get behind him, there is no point booing him as that could affect the rest of the team. 

Posted (edited)

It can't just be that Leicester is looking for x-amount of millions for Mahrez; the club has to first secure a likewise talented replacement winger to replace him.  Mahrez has to have rocks for brains to really think the club would sell him after giving them only two days till deadline to get that replacement. That replacement winger has to be a major player, someone who can unquestionably step right in and help put points on the table. 

 

BTW, I'm reading too many articles referring to Mahrez as a "forward". Wingers are still considered midfielders, right?

Edited by Pentatonic
Posted (edited)

Hello LCFC fans,

 

Another Algerian here:). I started reading through this thread and find it very interesting and wanted to give my two cents of what I think is happening. The truth has to be told that LCFC will not sell Mahrez till January 2020 when he will only have 6 months left in his contract. You are probably thinking his value will be all gone by that time, yes it is true but the overall finances of the club will be better off that way. Let me try to explain.

 

The current valuation of LCFC is about £350 M mostly coming from broadcasting, brand and merchandise. LCFC has also healthy finances since they are also making about £20 M in profit every year and don’t have any urgent need for money.

 

Now if God forbid LCFC is relegated their value will drop to £70 M at best which is usually the value of the top teams in championship. Besides the drop in valuation they might not be able to pay their best players because of lack of revenue and might need to offload them. Fortunately or unfortunately the survival of LCFC in the premier league depends a lot on Mahrez so they have no choice but to keep him to protect the business. Even if they sell at £95 M they won’t be able to replace him as no player of this price tag or caliber will come to LCFC.

 

The £95 M valuation for Mahrez is unrealistic and just a poor excuse because they told him if there is fair offer we will let you go, just to give enough hope for him to go on. There are only a handful of teams like Barca or Real who can spend this much money on a single player to be a central figure in the team, but as much as I like Mahrez he cannot be a starter in any of those teams, so none of those is going to pay £95 M on a player to put him on a bench. The offer from Man City is probably the best the team will ever get. People keep comparing with the fee paid for Courtinho or van Dijk but those are outliers triggered by the Neymar PSG deal that trickled down. It’s more reasonable to compare him with Aubmeyang(55 M), Lacazette(46 M), Salah(39 M),.. And you can argue that any of those players might be better than Mahrez.

 

Now what can Mahrez do to force a move before January 2020? Unfortunately for him he is squared and not much. If he refuses to play it will be very risky and suicidal from his part as this will tarnish what is left from his reputation, if he plays well the club will be more than happy to increase his “fair valuation” to fend off any eventual offers. He probably understands by now how the game works and is trying to figure out his next move. I read here people saying he is naïve and should not have signed the contract in the summer of 2016, I think he did not have a choice at that time, the club pressured him to sign without a release clause and he could not start a conflict with the club at that time. Mahrez is in a unique situation where it’s too risky for the club to let him go.

 

At the end it’s just business and each party will use whatever means they have to protect their interests including throwing a tantrum :) . .

 

Cheers,

Edited by MahrezFan
Posted (edited)

Just isolate him in the reserve team, tell the squad to consider him sold to Man City and to press on. I regularly cut my nose off to spite my face, I’d probably train him poorly and never play him again, see his age rise and his prospects fall, make every attempt to ruin him for the remainder of his contract, 200k fine isn’t enough. End his career. After enough lost noses people will treat you better in general :) 

Edited by SheppyFox
  • Like 1
Posted

I really hope Ryad see's sense here. There are just 12 games to go ! (unless we win the cup) He can leave in the summer. He's a Leicester legend and will paraded around the ground in years to come with our other title winning heroes, so he needs to be smart,think of his legacy,man up and play tomorrow with great heart and spirit. Otherwise he'll leave with a bad taste in people's mouths and blow everything that he's done for our club.

 

Posted
Just now, marcymarc666 said:

I really hope Ryad see's sense here. There are just 12 games to go ! (unless we win the cup) He can leave in the summer. He's a Leicester legend and will paraded around the ground in years to come with our other title winning heroes, so he needs to be smart,think of his legacy,man up and play tomorrow with great heart and spirit. Otherwise he'll leave with a bad taste in people's mouths and blow everything that he's done for our club.

 

i doubt that after this fiasco

Posted
5 hours ago, Almo-Fox said:

abv

 

 

no solution in the next few days 

mahrez case will finish in FIFA hands

 

heard  mahrez camp are willing to pay the 5 m to get out off the contract 

 

lol

There is no release clause in his contract. Otherwise, he'd have pulled the option long ago.

Posted
5 hours ago, Almo-Fox said:

abv

 

 

no solution in the next few days 

mahrez case will finish in FIFA hands

 

heard  mahrez camp are willing to pay the 5 m to get out off the contract 

 

lol good luck with that. I’m sure the owners would let that happen after rejecting £65m 

Posted
14 minutes ago, marcymarc666 said:

I really hope Ryad see's sense here. There are just 12 games to go ! (unless we win the cup) He can leave in the summer. He's a Leicester legend and will paraded around the ground in years to come with our other title winning heroes, so he needs to be smart,think of his legacy,man up and play tomorrow with great heart and spirit. Otherwise he'll leave with a bad taste in people's mouths and blow everything that he's done for our club.

 

Most modern footballers don’t think about things like that unfortunately. After the quick cash and winning trophies even if they know they’ll hardly be involved

Posted (edited)

why did thing had to come to this! riyad asking for a cut price and the owners asking too much. smh! all share the blame here.

 

he wanted to leave for the longest so the club should've had a back-up on stand-by. asking to lower the price to the summer valuation is greedy and unrealstic and asking for 95 million cash is also too greedy!

 

this makes the owners look as bad as riyad. can't imagine players/agents will be too overzealous dealing with us anymore. ruling with an iron fist is all well and good until you get on the bad side of a more influential preson.

Edited by the fox
Posted
2 minutes ago, the fox said:

why did thing had to come to this! riyad asking for a cut price and the owners asking too much. smh! all share the blame here.

 

he wanted to leave for the longest so the club should've had a back-up on stand-by. asking to lower the price to the summer valuation is greedy and unrealstic and asking for 95 million cash is also too greedy!

 

this makes the owners look as bad as much as riyad. can't imagine players/agents will be too overzealous dealing with us anymore

The owners didn’t ask for too much at all.

Posted
2 minutes ago, the fox said:

why did thing had to come to this! riyad asking for a cut price and the owners asking too much. smh! all share the blame here.

 

he wanted to leave for the longest so the club should've had a back-up on stand-by. asking to lower the price to the summer valuation is greedy and unrealstic and asking for 95 million cash is also too greedy!

 

this makes the owners look as bad as much as riyad. can't imagine players/agents will be too overzealous dealing with us anymore

Mahrez signed the bloody contract! The club have done nothing wrong, they value him at a price which they’ll have their reasons for and it hasn’t been close to being met. It’s really not that complicated

 

And as for having a replacement lined up....

1) How can we? We don’t know if anybody is going to pay the right price for Mahrez

 

2) How would we have been expected to get this replacement on 24 hours notice?

Posted
Just now, SheppyFox said:

The owners didn’t ask for too much at all.

yes they did (believe it or not). he wanted to leave and the owners said that they will "let him go" for the right price. that 95 million figure was just a polite "piss off!"

 

the owners should know that a cane can only bend so much until it breaks. i said 75 for him was fair, mac city offered 65, i'm sure if the owners wanted to have a deal they would've met man city in the middle

Posted
6 minutes ago, the fox said:

why did thing had to come to this! riyad asking for a cut price and the owners asking too much. smh! all share the blame here.

 

he wanted to leave for the longest so the club should've had a back-up on stand-by. asking to lower the price to the summer valuation is greedy and unrealstic and asking for 95 million cash is also too greedy!

 

this makes the owners look as bad as riyad. can't imagine players/agents will be too overzealous dealing with us anymore. ruling with an iron fist is all well and good until you get on the bad side of a more influential preson.

Are you the Algerian Devil's Advocate Numero Uno, by any chance?

Yesterday, you were all over Riyad, blaming him (and his agent) for his bad timing, now it's the owners?

 

It has nothing to do with greed. If we say Riyad is worth £95m to us, then that's the benchmark. You wouldn't want to try to sell your house for less than what you think it is worth.

And we are under no obligation to let Mahrez go.

That's the point.

 

The transfer request was handed in a day before transfer deadline. How were the club supposed to have organized a replacement within 24 hours? lol

And Manchester City never placed a concrete offer on the table, all they did was inquire about three times and that was it.

Posted
Just now, the fox said:

yes they did (believe it or not). he wanted to leave and the owners said that they will "let him go" for the right price. that 95 million figure was just a polite "piss off!"

 

the owners should know that a cane can only bend so much until it breaks. i said 75 for him was fair, mac city offered 65, i'm sure if the owners wanted to have a deal they would've met man city in the middle

The owners are gonna meet in the middle of some random poster on FT and Man City’s valuation because?

 

i think they’d have probably settled £80m but it was clear Man City weren’t budging. Negotiations ended and rightly so

Posted
10 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Most modern footballers don’t think about things like that unfortunately. After the quick cash and winning trophies even if they know they’ll hardly be involved

 

10 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Most modern footballers don’t think about things like that unfortunately. After the quick cash and winning trophies even if they know they’ll hardly be involved

But footballers want to be heroes, they want to be loved. Ryad took part in the greatest shock in sporting history, he must have the brains to see that he could blow everything he's created ,or maybe not.........

Posted
2 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Mahrez signed the bloody contract! The club have done nothing wrong, they value him at a price which they’ll have their reasons for and it hasn’t been close to being met. It’s really not that complicated

 

And as for having a replacement lined up....

1) How can we? We don’t know if anybody is going to pay the right price for Mahrez

 

2) How would we have been expected to get this replacement on 24 hours notice?

did it skip your mind that maybe, just maybe, on top of a higher wage, he thought that he will try to make sure that the club will get a fair sum for him?

 

just buy the player! buy a CAM, a RW or a LW, if mahrez stays, said player would also play

 

the club know that he wanted to leave for the longest, even drinky who handed in a transfer request late in the window has a replacement lined up. let's not act like the club was caught off guards

Posted (edited)

The club might well have replacements in mind but to contact their club, get the player on board and it all agreed would not happen in 24 hours .

 

Who knows the club might have tried

Edited by Cardiff_Fox
Posted
9 minutes ago, the fox said:

why did thing had to come to this! riyad asking for a cut price and the owners asking too much. smh! all share the blame here.

 

he wanted to leave for the longest so the club should've had a back-up on stand-by. asking to lower the price to the summer valuation is greedy and unrealstic and asking for 95 million cash is also too greedy!

 

this makes the owners look as bad as riyad. can't imagine players/agents will be too overzealous dealing with us anymore. ruling with an iron fist is all well and good until you get on the bad side of a more influential preson.

This is the point I don't get buddy, why is it the owners fault and why are they asking too much? By all accounts they were asking for 80 by the end of it man city just started ludicrously low. As for putting off players, money talks. Never harmed any other club that's done it. 

 

It's all well and good saying we should of had a standby but then would we have been left in the position where we're dealing with a club on deadline day late on and they don't want to sell? So we don't get our man? 

 

I understand you want to defend your man but ultimately the blame here lies with him. If he doesn't have a strop, doesn't listen to his agents lies in an attempt to use mahrez as a cash cow he knuckles down carries on playing brilliantly and goes in the summer for that price. Also he has to realise man city aren't that bothered about him. Or they'd have paid it. Most definitely. Guardiola has said that he'd only pay that for the special players so he obviously doesn't feel mahrez fits that category. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, MC Prussian said:

Are you the Algerian Devil's Advocate Numero Uno, by any chance?

Yesterday, you were all over Riyad, blaming him (and his agent) for his bad timing, now it's the owners?

 

It has nothing to do with greed. If we say Riyad is worth £95m to us, then that's the benchmark. You wouldn't want to try to sell your house for less than what you think it is worth.

And we are under no obligation to let Mahrez go.

That's the point.

 

The transfer request was handed in a day before transfer deadline. How were the club supposed to have organized a replacement within 24 hours? lol

And Manchester City never placed a concrete offer on the table, all they did was inquire about three times and that was it.

lol i blamed riyad today, yesterday and the day before yesterday, what are you even talking about? just making sure that i line up everyone ho shat the bed on this (including the owners)

 

he said for the longest that he wanted to leave, the owners shouldn't be surprised

 

 

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
×
×
  • Create New...