Puel’s KPI’s

[NorthfieldsFox]

KPI’s (Key performance Indicators) seem to be the buzz word today thanks to Gary Neville. 

 

there has been a lot of negativity towards our manager it would be good to see if we could get a concensus on what KPI’s we would use to judge the manager at the end of the season. 

 

maybe everyone could have a think of what preformance indicators you would like to see him judged by

 

Maybe we could come up with a few and then we could hold a poll on each at the end of the season to see how he rates

 

My suggestion for KPI’s for rest of season would be 

 

1) WIN RATIO (would like 40% win rate) 

2) CUP PERFORMANCE ( reach cup semifinal)  

3) team playing decent football (general sense of feeling entertained) 

4) positive goal difference (score more than we concede between now and end of season) 

Edited 5 March 2018 by NorthfieldsFox

[Stadt]

"Key performance indicator"

 

>"team playing decent football"

 

What's the metric for that?

[Guest Sharpe's Fox]

Win some games against shite sides and don’t bore me to ****ing tears.

[NorthfieldsFox]

1 minute ago, Wookie said:

"Key performance indicator"

 

>"team playing decent football"

 

What's the metric for that?

I don’t shout at the kids leaving the KP because my head and heart is frazzled by watching shite football 

 

I guess it’s a personal metric 

[Matt]

4 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said:

Win some games against shite sides and don’t bore me to ****ing tears.

This.

 

I don't think anyone can argue that's the minimum we ask.

 

At the moment we're doing neither, I don't think the negativity at this moment is unfair based on what we're seeing.

 

I gave credit when he got us playing better and admitted I was perhaps wrong but it's gone back to being boring, clueless and ultimately not winning games.

Edited 5 March 2018 by Matt

[Stadt]

1 minute ago, NorthfieldsFox said:

shite football 

It is a bit boring at times I'll concede but you watched us Holloway, Levein, Megson etc? It's not that bad.

 

The idea of a KPI is that it's a numerical figure easy enough to keep track of rather than subjective qualitative data.

[UPinCarolina]

Some of the advanced statistics out there seem to point to the fact that we are just on a horrendous streak of luck. I tend to agree with them.

[NorthfieldsFox]

1 minute ago, Wookie said:

It is a bit boring at times I'll concede but you watched us Holloway, Levein, Megson etc? It's not that bad.

 

The idea of a KPI is that it's a numerical figure easy enough to keep track of rather than subjective qualitative data.

Jesus don’t go all smart on me  they threw me onto a building site at 14  

 

I had to google what it even meant  

[NorthfieldsFox]

2 minutes ago, UPinCarolina said:

Some of the advanced statistics out there seem to point to the fact that we are just on a horrendous streak of luck. I tend to agree with them.

Could the statistic parameters formulate KPI’s ? 

 

@Wookie will know  

[Legend_in_blue]

If he doesn't manage better than a draw in his next game then his record over the same number of games as Shakey will be exactly the same.

 

The best KPI I could give him is to stop giving us ammunition with which to criticise the bloke.  At the moment he's making it too easy for us with his baffling decisions.

[Stadt]

Just now, NorthfieldsFox said:

Could the statistic parameters formulate KPI’s ? 

 

@Wookie will know  

Haha, xG has been encouraging for us recently as well as more conventional stuff like shots, shots on target etc 

[StanSP]

teach Iheanacho how to score from 2 yards out. 

[davieG]

For better or worse we're in a transition phase moving to passing/possession set up. Presumably under instructions of the LCFC Executive.

The squad he has is full of players unsuited to that style and overloaded in certain positions.

In many respects he's in a similar situation that Pearson found himself following Sven's exit

On that basis you could argue that maintaining the position we're in with respect to the PL and the FA Cup he's performing rather well.

I guess it depends on your expectations

 

[Monsell1976]

As a fan I pay to enjoy watching my team, something I haven’t  done in a while.

 Forget winning, drawing or losing, my kpi for puel and the players, give it your all and bring enjoyment to us fans, as simple as it sounds, that’s all we want as a minimum, the rest is not a given but a bonus if it happens.

 We are all but safe, now is the time to try new things, not be so cautious, because the cautious tactics at present isn’t really ramping us up the table, if anything we are about to drop down it.

 

[Ian Nacho]

His only objective given by the club when he came was probably to keep the club in the Premier League...

[Corky]

13 minutes ago, Monsell1976 said:

As a fan I pay to enjoy watching my team, something I haven’t  done in a while.

 Forget winning, drawing or losing, my kpi for puel and the players, give it your all and bring enjoyment to us fans, as simple as it sounds, that’s all we want as a minimum, the rest is not a given but a bonus if it happens.

 We are all but safe, now is the time to try new things, not be so cautious, because the cautious tactics at present isn’t really ramping us up the table, if anything we are about to drop down it.

 

If, for example, we had more games like the Arsenal one and losing 4-3 and 3-2 was a regular thing, would the fans be happier with that?

 

Results are all that matter, if we'd won the last three home games 2-1 (as we should at least have done) people wouldn't be complaining.

[reynard]

2 hours ago, Wookie said:

It is a bit boring at times I'll concede but you watched us Holloway, Levein, Megson etc? It's not that bad.

 

The idea of a KPI is that it's a numerical figure easy enough to keep track of rather than subjective qualitative data.

You're right but none of those had a squad worth millions of pounds the bulk of which won the league title just two seasons ago. A return of 1.3points on average per game giving us around 50 points at the end of the season should be the bare minimum we should be achieving with our investment and squad.

[An Away Move]

2 hours ago, davieG said:

For better or worse we're in a transition phase moving to passing/possession set up. Presumably under instructions of the LCFC Executive.

The squad he has is full of players unsuited to that style and overloaded in certain positions.

In many respects he's in a similar situation that Pearson found himself following Sven's exit

On that basis you could argue that maintaining the position we're in with respect to the PL and the FA Cup he's performing rather well.

I guess it depends on your expectations

 

Absolutely this. We need stability. And why is everyone forgetting what great and incisive  football we were playing in the first few games when Puel came in and switched things around tactically? The current slump in form might have more to do with the Mahrez transfer upheaval. 

[Stadt]

54 minutes ago, reynard said:

You're right but none of those had a squad worth millions of pounds the bulk of which won the league title just two seasons ago. A return of 1.3points on average per game giving us around 50 points at the end of the season should be the bare minimum we should be achieving with our investment and squad.

Puel didn't spend the money, he's had one window (a January window, not to mention) - it's not great at the minute but he's a builder. He's very much a long term appointment and I think next season is when we can judge him.

[Guest Manini]

It's the same in any job/industry and I feel strongly about this. You can over analyse KPI's to death but it's the bottom line that counts and in football that's the amount of points you accumulate throughout a season. 

 

It doesnt even really work in football because the only KPI there is, is actually the ammount points you have? 

[Monsell1976]

3 hours ago, Corky said:

If, for example, we had more games like the Arsenal one and losing 4-3 and 3-2 was a regular thing, would the fans be happier with that?

 

Results are all that matter, if we'd won the last three home games 2-1 (as we should at least have done) people wouldn't be complaining.

This is where it’s a fine balancing act, we want to enjoy it, or what’s the point.

 The manager needs to get them playing to keep the fans happy, and get results.

 There has to be compromises, yes big boys, play one up, defend, try and counter.

 

And we didn’t win the last 3 at home and was pretty dire and frustrating to watch.

 

 The Swansea, stoke and Bournemouth, go for it, not one up top, and 3 out of 4 midfielders defensive ones.

 These are the games where they have come to sit behind the ball, so get pace and creativity on, not James, nididi, albrighton, gray as a no 10, who hasn’t got a clue how to play there.

 

 This is the time to play with freedom, we are safe, but dropping points because we are setting up safe, against teams that want to sit in and drawing in games we are good enough to win.

 

 Don’t care what excuses the Mercury, anybody make, like we are unlucky, bollocks, you have to make your own luck, there are to many out on that pitch, low in confidence and hiding.

 

 Puel needs players in that suit his style, and have the ability and confidence in their own ability to play that way.

 Dragovic and maguire, both good footballers and confident with the ball at their feet, Fuchs, Iborra, silva, nacho, diabate, all good at keeping the ball, and will work between the lines, instead of predictable side ways of James, hoof it albrighton, Simpson, Morgan if pressured on the ball.

 

In fairness to all those brought in, the more technical passing game isn’t why they was brought in, and in fairness to puel, he’s inherited these limited players, so next season may be better when he’s cleared out those the can’t play his way, and he’s brought in those that can.

[Vardinio'sCat]

 

I thought targets had gone out of fashion, it's all so noughties. 

 

Just leads to gaming the system, so I agree that playing proper football is as specific as I can cope with.

[NewEnglandFox]

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[ozleicester]

18/19 KPI's - Survival and Silverware with Style

Edited 6 March 2018 by ozleicester

[Rogstanley]

Some KPI’s for ‘attractive football’:

 

Forward pass ratio (more forward passes = better football)

 

Average number of men behind ball when not in possession (fewer = better)

 

Speed of player movements forward having won back possession (quicker = better)

 

Average number of touches before pass (fewer = better)

 

Number of dribbles (more = better)

 

Chances created (more = better)

 

Playing Matty James (no = better)

 

 

 

Edited 6 March 2018 by Rogstanley