Fuchs: I play for myself, not my coach or my team-mates

[Countryfox]

8 minutes ago, daddylonglegs said:

I met him about 5 days after Ranieri got sacked. He came for dinner with my university team (organized by the Vice Chancellor, a friend of his) and I was asking about if he wanted Shakespeare to get the job or someone else and if he was sad about Ranieri.

 

He made the fair point that he's been managed by about 30 managers in his career and that he just doesn't care anymore. Don't think his honesty should be scrutinized tbh. 

 

I find that a bit sad tbh ...   

[davieG]

4 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

 

I find that a bit sad tbh ...   

It is but it's the nature of today's football where managers are expendable we shouldn't be surprised that older footballers have become cynical about it.

 

Mind you it's not just football I remember having 4 different managers in a year and being 'moved as part of 're-organisation' of the business 4  times in 2 years that meant me sitting in 6 different offices over the same time period.

Re-organising / big change is seen as the modern panacea to all world problems

[HoustonFox]

Good article and I like Fuchs a lot as both a player and guy. He’s thoughtful and ambitious on and off the field. Does a lot for the communities he’s in too, not just about money making. Headline of article (not DavieG’s choice!) was clearly click bait/to generate readership. 

 

He’s definitely become a squad player now and I’m hoping some of his coaching ability and experience rubs off on Ben. 

[Countryfox]

1 minute ago, davieG said:

It is but it's the nature of today's football where managers are expendable we shouldn't be surprised that older footballers have become cynical about it.

 

Mind you it's not just football I remember having 4 different managers in a year and being 'moved as part of 're-organisation' of the business 4  times in 2 years that meant me sitting in 6 different offices over the same time period.

Re-organising / big change is seen as the modern panacea to all world problems

 

Fair comment Davie, but I would have thought there was something special about when they won the league ...

[daddylonglegs]

5 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

 

Fair comment Davie, but I would have thought there was something special about when they won the league ...

Don't get me wrong he was as excited talking about winning the league as I was when talking about it.

 

He claimed to not care who came in, rather than not being a little disappointed about Ranieri. He was more upset about the fact that his team mates had got him the sack than anything else. 

[Captain...]

1 minute ago, Countryfox said:

 

Fair comment Davie, but I would have thought there was something special about when they won the league ...

I  don't think he's saying there wasn't, just that managers come and go and he isn't going to get upset by it. He was clearly very happy to win the team and has a good relationship with his teammates and it is probably that attitude that helps. These aren't his friends, or his family, they are his colleagues and so he leaves all personal attachment and feelings out of it, just turns up works hard has a laugh and goes home. It is probably easier to integrate with a new group with that attitude than someone who forms strong emotional ties to his teammates and gets upset when his best mate gets dropped/sold.

 

 

[Captain...]

On 3/25/2018 at 09:44, davieG said:

Back in May 2016, Leicester City made the impossible, possible. A Premier League title was a victory for the underdog. For the common man. For those who prefer their football as real as it used to be before billionaires somehow ruined the beautiful game.

It was also a very personal, and improbable, victory for Foxes’ left-back Christian Fuchs. “I’m not playing for my coach, I’m not playing for my team mates, I’m playing for my own success,” he told Yahoo Sport.

“I never believed it until it happened. When we watched the Chelsea v Tottenham game all together at Jamie Vardy’s house, it was a crazy up-and-down experience.

Seeing as it is the headline and the leading line in the article, there is zero context to that quote and bears virtually no relevance to anything else he says. It has clearly been plucked from some other point of the interview and shoved into the top.

 

You can't criticise him for saying it as I'm pretty sure he didn't open the interview with "Just before we start I would like it to go on record that I play for myself, not my teammates, thanks, now you can ask your questions about New York."

 

It would have been a response to a question, probably about leaving behind his teammates and coaches when he goes to New York.

[WigstonWanderer]

2 hours ago, Babylon said:

Do you know something we don't?

Most definitely not. Just pointing out that if all these trips to the States result in him not being here enough to satisfy the terms of his contract there could be legal grounds to terminate it. I am not a lawyer or in any way legally qualified.

[davieG]

Where do people get the idea that he's in the States every week.

 

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In New York, whilst there’s a break from Premier League duty, Fuchs is spending some long-overdue time with his family

 

[UniFox21]

12 minutes ago, davieG said:

Where do people get the idea that he's in the States every week.

 

 

He is there more than this suggests; he regularly posts 'story' updates on his instagram account of flying to the states and being on planes

[davieG]

16 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

He is there more than this suggests; he regularly posts 'story' updates on his instagram account of flying to the states and being on planes

Doesn't make it every week though does it, I doubt the games and training period we've just been through with cup games would provide much opportunity and he certainly wouldn't be doing it without some level of ok from the club.

 

It just seems like people are desperate to find something to hammer players with especially those they feel don't deserve to be in the team.

[gurru991]

44 minutes ago, davieG said:

Doesn't make it every week though does it, I doubt the games and training period we've just been through with cup games would provide much opportunity and he certainly wouldn't be doing it without some level of ok from the club.

 

It just seems like people are desperate to find something to hammer players with especially those they feel don't deserve to be in the team.

It seems that forum fans really enjoy hammering city players, Grey, Chilwell,& Fuchs are in vogue right now but Morgan & Mahrez are always popular candidates 

Edited 26 March 2018 by gurru991

[UPinCarolina]

I’d don’t mind players who have enough personal pride to never down tools (“play for themselves”) - that said, there are limits. 

[The_77]

Glad to see so many people on here go to work every day for everyone else at their companies and not for themselves.  And when we're celebrities, I hope we'll all be as loyal as he is to his wife and children while they're living on the other side of the Atlantic.

 

Some of these guys can't win with us fans, no matter what they do. We want players to have personalities, help the club win matches, show fight on the pitch, stay out of trouble, give their time to the disadvantaged, and to be patient and accessible to fans off the pitch; Fuchs does with a smile on his face. Not only that, but Christian and his wife stepped up when the club's marketing dept was not in a position to keep up with the club's explosion of success and demand. 

 

I can't blame the man for preparing and looking forward to his life after leaving Leicester City Football Club; he's developing ventures he enjoys that may help him continue to provide for his family-- I don't think we can say that lowers his level of commitment to his current day job.

 

 

[Wymsey]

He comes across as someone who is intelligent, especially setting up a business that will help him/keep him occupied after his football career, but also appears quite the type that sees himself as superior to others.

Edited 26 March 2018 by Wymeswold fox

[davieG]

1 minute ago, Wymeswold fox said:

He comes across as someone who is intelligent, especially setting up a business that will help him/keep him occupied after his football career, but also the type that sees himself as superior to others.

Not for me he doesn't, he seems to genuinely enjoy life but appreciates what he's got and is happy to be the butt of jokes etc.

 

[The_77]

12 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said:

He comes across as someone who is intelligent, especially setting up a business that will help him/keep him occupied after his football career, but also appears quite the type that sees himself as superior to others.

I don't think that's a fair assessment of someone who once met me at Duffy's for a few pints, haha

[RutlanderFox]

All footballers play for themselves primarily. For example, I doubt Ronaldo would trade one of his 4 Balon D’Or titles, or indeed any of his other honours, to have the opportunity to go back in time and stay alongside Alan Smith for the rest of his career so Smith wouldn’t end up playing for Notts County

[TeaMen Tom]

My guess would be that if he could have had some editorial control over the 'play for myself' comment, he'd had that removed. I'm a Fuchs fan  but I do think that the signs point to an exit from LCFC this summer.  Claude is building for the future and  if he were to be brought back it would be only as a stopgap in case Chilwell goes down and they can't bring anyone else in to provide some depth.  It's interesting what he's doing in terms of street soccer.  The problem the US has is that the sport is basically a middle class sport for kids whose parents have the money to pay for club football - and even at that level, the quality of coaching is dubious.  When it stops being predominantly a middle class suburban white kids sport and opens up to everyone, that's when the US will have a chance to be really good.

 

 

[Aus Fox]

4 hours ago, gurru991 said:

It seems that forum fans really enjoy hammering city players, Grey, Chilwell,& Fuchs are in vogue right now but Morgan & Mahrez are always popular candidates 

Ndidi and Vardy seem to be the only players that don't get any flack on a consistent basis on here.

[gurru991]

1 minute ago, Aus Fox said:

Ndidi and Vardy seem to be the only players that don't get any flack on a consistent basis on here.

Very True .. 

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

6 hours ago, davieG said:

Where do people get the idea that he's in the States every week.

 

 

His instagram account! He's there at least twice a month.

[norwichfox]

he needs his bloody ear flicking......where's Riyad when you need him?

[Guest]

16 hours ago, The_77 said:

Glad to see so many people on here go to work every day for everyone else at their companies and not for themselves.  And when we're celebrities, I hope we'll all be as loyal as he is to his wife and children while they're living on the other side of the Atlantic.

 

Some of these guys can't win with us fans, no matter what they do. We want players to have personalities, help the club win matches, show fight on the pitch, stay out of trouble, give their time to the disadvantaged, and to be patient and accessible to fans off the pitch; Fuchs does with a smile on his face. Not only that, but Christian and his wife stepped up when the club's marketing dept was not in a position to keep up with the club's explosion of success and demand. 

 

I can't blame the man for preparing and looking forward to his life after leaving Leicester City Football Club; he's developing ventures he enjoys that may help him continue to provide for his family-- I don't think we can say that lowers his level of commitment to his current day job.

 

 

Maybe you only work for yourself but many of us don't. I work for my students and I'm sure that many others are not as cynical as you, especially those working in public jobs and hopefully the service industries.

 

I'm not reading anything into this interview about Fuchs but I'd like to think that footballers in general play not only for their wage packets but also the fans who cheer them on.

 

As for Fuchs, I like his media personality but think it is time for him to move onto football in the states, his prem life has expired.

[the fox]

It's funny ain't it? Expecting the players to be loyal but yall don't want to reciprocate the same loyalty back.

 

Loyalty in football is a big hunk of shit! The fans aren't loyal to the players and the players shouldn't be loyal to the fans. We as fans want the best for the club above all. the moment there is a better player, the "loyal players" get pushed aside. 

 

Grow up, all of you! Loyalty is just an excuse yall use to hammer players.