Leicester City Announce Restructure To Claude Puel's Coaching Staff

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

3 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

 

...    Is he human !!!    Sounds like something from the Day of the Triffids ! ....

Ay.  I had to look that one up, sounds fantastic

 

I'm sure there are some great parallels to be drawn between Puel's tenure here and a vicious strain of carniverous plants taking over the world  

[Bunyip]

6 hours ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

Puel is hunkering down deep within our club structure, spreading his roots.  Mid-table or above come the end of this season and he is going to be here for a few years.  Maybe even one day you'll grow to love him...

 

I really do hope so. It's just that I can't get those awful images of last seasons style of football out of my head. But I hope you are right for the sake of the club.

[WigstonWanderer]

43 minutes ago, Bunyip said:

I really do hope so. It's just that I can't get those awful images of last seasons style of football out of my head. But I hope you are right for the sake of the club.

Watching Spain and nearly falling asleep, I’m not sure a pure possession style is something to aspire to. Certainly not for us as we won’t be able to do it effectively. I hope he retains something of that urgency that won us the PL.

[HighPeakFox]

7 hours ago, Ian S said:

And just maybe come October/ November those of us who remain totally unconvinced will very unfortunately be found to be justified in our lack of confidence.

And if you are proven wrong, will you think twice before damning the next person you are unconvinced by? 

[Ian S]

2 hours ago, HighPeakFox said:

And if you are proven wrong, will you think twice before damning the next person you are unconvinced by? 

I truly hope I am wrong and it won't be the first time but I would love to understand what those like yourself saw last season that gives you such hope apart from the predictable new manager bounce he had. He inherited a very talented squad and made them look incredibly ordinary.He had a squad and still does that is top 8, lets hope for all our sakes he delivers.

As for thinking twice, I don't just jump on bandwagons I make my own mind up based on what I see. On previous occasions I have backed managers to the hilt when many were calling for heads eg Pearson during our first season back. I also never called for Shakespeare to go as I had not got to that point. Just because you do not agree re Puel does not make you right and every other poster of a similar mind to me wrong.And if we do get off to a terrible start I will look forward to your posts,let's hope it does not come to that.

[HighPeakFox]

35 minutes ago, Ian S said:

I truly hope I am wrong and it won't be the first time but I would love to understand what those like yourself saw last season that gives you such hope apart from the predictable new manager bounce he had. He inherited a very talented squad and made them look incredibly ordinary.He had a squad and still does that is top 8, lets hope for all our sakes he delivers.

As for thinking twice, I don't just jump on bandwagons I make my own mind up based on what I see. On previous occasions I have backed managers to the hilt when many were calling for heads eg Pearson during our first season back. I also never called for Shakespeare to go as I had not got to that point. Just because you do not agree re Puel does not make you right and every other poster of a similar mind to me wrong.And if we do get off to a terrible start I will look forward to your posts,let's hope it does not come to that.

I don't remember ever being wholly in favour. I can see problems, of course. However, you appear to enjoy finding fault with those that disagree with you. Aren't we here to discuss the club etc and not call out other fans for seeing things differently, for whatever reason? Don't just lump us all into a category either, please. 

[volpeazzurro]

10 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

It's not very respectful to sack someone in any other way than face to face, let alone over the phone when the guy's on his honeymoon! The amount of money someone is being paid doesn't change that imo. 

As I say, the chances are it would be no real suprise to him. If it was our owners themselves they could be anywhere in the world for example. Personally I'd have thought it would be more likely to be our d of f. If so, and a decision is made and negotiations completed and you want your new man in on Monday, you're hardly going to halt a multi million pound business just to wait for an employee to get back from his holidays. Neither would you let him know in advance in case you can't get your man. That would be even worse business!  Football is not a public service and quite an odd kind of business. I would imagine some other businesses are run in a similar manner these days, it goes with the territory. Players and staff in cahoots with theirs agents try to better themselves and rarely stick to contracts or remain loyal, this is merely the other side of the coin in a  renowned cut throat business. Sad, but the stakes are high. 

[That_Dude]

On 30/06/2018 at 19:17, Gerard said:

@Sharpe's Fox on 24 hour suicide watch after this news

 

@Webbo, @NotTheMarketLeader, @chapero82 and @Abrasive fox told to go into a darkened room with a cold damp cloth on their foreheads and have a lie down. 

 

You think you forgot a few. About half of the posters here I'd say.

[That_Dude]

On 30/06/2018 at 22:20, Webbo said:

He can have absolutely no excuses now if he fails to deliver like last season.

How did he exactly fail last season?

[That_Dude]

On 01/07/2018 at 11:08, yorksfox said:

I'd be amazed if any of these changes improve matters. Puel is still the guy on charge so we can expect more of the same... TEN goals conceded in our final two away games, isolated Vardy, listless midfield....the guy must think he's untouchable but he'll be gone by January.

What a load of bollocks.

[coolhandfox]

On 02/07/2018 at 11:21, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

Puel is hunkering down deep within our club structure, spreading his roots.  Mid-table or above come the end of this season and he is going to be here for a few years.  Maybe even one day you'll grow to love him...

 

Maybe, but I suspect anything less than 8th, and a better football the owners will be look to see who available.

 

I'm still convinced that he's still only here because the owners could find someone they see as a upgrade.

 

They aren't spending £80m on a training ground and increasing the stadium capacity, whist being sixth in net transfer spend to finish mid table.

 

I read this as a we are taking away all of the excuses, by giving you what you want, and you better achieve.

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

1 minute ago, coolhandfox said:

Maybe, but I suspect anything less than 8th, and a better football the owners will be look to see who available.

 

I'm still convinced that he's still only here because the owners could find someone they see as a upgrade.

 

They aren't spending £80m on a training ground and increasing the stadium capacity, whist being sixth in net transfer spend to finish mid table.

 

I read this as a we are taking away all of the excuses, by giving you what you want, and you better achieve.

I fully believe the owners are pushing the club in every direction possible to do as much as they can with it

 

And so I believe Puel being our current manager falls into that ethic. Thats the end of the matter regarding Puel atm

 

Next season if we dont do well he may have to leave, we know they are ruthless, but at this moment in time he is definitively the man for the job

[coolhandfox]

17 minutes ago, That_Dude said:

How did he exactly fail last season?

Unless we know the objective he was given by the owners we have no way of knowing.

 

How the objective of a lot of fans is to be entertained, so they feel he failed! 

Edited 3 July 2018 by coolhandfox

[coolhandfox]

5 minutes ago, AlloverthefloorYesNdidi said:

I fully believe the owners are pushing the club in every direction possible to do as much as they can with it

 

And so I believe Puel being our current manager falls into that ethic. Thats the end of the matter regarding Puel atm

 

Next season if we dont do well he may have to leave, we know they are ruthless, but at this moment in time he is definitively the man for the job

Only time will tell, it's going to be interesting.

 

 

[Voll Blau]

1 hour ago, That_Dude said:

How did he exactly fail last season?

He overachieved too early in front of a goldfish-brained fanbase.

[AlloverthefloorYesNdidi]

26 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

Only time will tell, it's going to be interesting.

 

 

My thoughts exactly

[That_Dude]

1 hour ago, coolhandfox said:

Unless we know the objective he was given by the owners we have no way of knowing.

 

How the objective of a lot of fans is to be entertained, so they feel he failed! 

 

That's entirely subjective and not really relevant to the topic.

 

First thing he's been hired for is certainly to keep us up and a realistic objective would be top half of the table. Unless one is deluded enpugh to think that the owners appointed him with the top 6-7 as objective for the first season.

 

The style and the results weren't always there, especially in the second half, there were some dreadful games but at the end of the day he did deliver, considering that:

 

- It was not his team.

- We were pretty low in the table.

- Mahrez crisis in january.

- Injuries/suspensions of key players in the second part of the season.

 

I'm honestly amazed by the amount of hostility the bloke faced since he ever was appointed. People hated on him although he didn't even manage one game and that's mostly the same ones who're still calling for his head, no matter the results.

 

I remember giving up on lurking for a long while here last season because of the reigning toxicity in every thread related to the matches and/or to him.

 

Edited 3 July 2018 by That_Dude

[Foxxed]

Are we getting a new sports psychologist as well? Didn't Ranieri sack the who called disruptive players "terrorists"? This guy:

The team spirit was such a integral part of 15/16 it a seems crazy that we're no longer bothering with sports psychology. Is Claude big on sports psychology?

 

 

[Foxy-Lady]

19 minutes ago, That_Dude said:

That's entirely subjective and not really relevant to the topic.

 

First thing he's been hired for is certainly to keep us up and a realistic objective would be top half of the table. Unless one is deluded enpugh to think that the owners appointed him with the top 6-7 as objective for the first season.

 

The style and the results weren't always there, especially in the second half, there were some dreadful games but at the end of the day he did deliver, considering that:

 

- It was not his team.

- We were pretty low in the table.

- Mahrez crisis in january.

- Injuries/suspensions of key players in the second part of the season.

 

I'm honestly amazed by the amount of hostility the bloke faced since he ever was appointed. People hated on him although he didn't even manage one game and that's mostly the same ones who're still claiming for his head, no matter the results.

 

I remember giving up on lurking for a long while here last season because of the reigning toxicity in every thread related to the matches and/or to him.

 

 

Ive never had an issue with Puel and neither did i have any issues with any of our 3 previous managers either (shakespeare, Ranieri, Pearson)

 

However, I do have a slight issue with the objective of keeping us up as I doubt we were ever in serious danger of going down. This is not the benefit of hindsight as when people were calling for Shakey's head last Aug/Sept after our difficult start, I posted that with our squad of players, we would finish between 8-12 in the table regardless of who was manager (including my Mum!).  The fixtures worked against Shakey and were more favourable to Puel so I stand by my view that we will still finish 7-12 in the table next season.....UNLESS Puel proves either to be unbelievably good.....or unbelievably bad! 

[coolhandfox]

2 hours ago, That_Dude said:

That's entirely subjective and not really relevant to the topic.

Very subjective, but football is an entertainment business as much as it's a results business.

 

Why is it not relevant? 

 

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First thing he's been hired for is certainly to keep us up and a realistic objective would be top half of the table. Unless one is deluded enpugh to think that the owners appointed him with the top 6-7 as objective for the first season.

Unless you were there,  you are guessing like the rest of us what objectives he was given.

 

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The style and the results weren't always there, especially in the second half, there were some dreadful games but at the end of the day he did deliver, considering that:

 

- It was not his team.

- We were pretty low in the table.

- Mahrez crisis in january.

- Injuries/suspensions of key players in the second part of the season.

Once again without knowing the objectives he was set how can judge he's performance on them.

 

You are judged him on your own metrics, like everyone else.

 

 

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I'm honestly amazed by the amount of hostility the bloke faced since he ever was appointed. People hated on him although he didn't even manage one game and that's mostly the same ones who're still claiming for his head, no matter the results.

I don't have the answer to that, try asking someone who hates him.

 

However I believe its a similar position to Big Sam at Everton. He's seen as a little dull, negative, but does this make him a bad manager, no not I'm my book.

 

I would just prefer to look forward to going to games, by the end of the season I had little motivation to go.

 

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I remember giving up on lurking for a long while here last season because of the reigning toxicity in every thread related to the matches and/or to him.

 

 

Well that not surprising given some of the performances! However I remember the toxicity at the Sheffield United game under O'Neilll, him managed to turn it around, so maybe Puel can do the same! 

Edited 3 July 2018 by coolhandfox

[yks]

15 hours ago, Ian S said:

(...)I would love to understand what those like yourself saw last season that gives you such hope apart from the predictable new manager bounce he had.

There's no such thing as "new manager bounce". That just doesn't exist. Just look at all the results from the club who changed their manager, some are better than before the change, other not.

I'm hopeful for next season(s) for this reasons :

- During the best games, the team seemed on par or better than a lot of Top 6 ones. (Tottenham x2, ManU, Chelsea, Arsenal).
- During the worst period, which is largely exaggerated, a lot of games were lost or drawn by lack of luck or stupid individual mistakes.
- Even with this "dreadful period" he still managed to get LCFC to 9th.
- Puel obviously has full support from the board, despite rumours and false stories coming from people wanting to hurt him/the club.
- He managed to put the club in 9th position coming when it was close to relegation, with a bunch of players not suited to his style and with a "dreadful relegation-form period".
- The worst period can partially be explained by lack of motivation from players who knew they will finish midtable no matter what, experimentation in tactics or formation, young players learning their job the hard way
- Next year, he will have players more suited to his style and the young ones will have more experience.
- Even without talking about if they are suited or not, the players will be better next season. The young ones will have one more year of experience and it's crucial at that age and can make a huge difference
- He repeatledly showed in France that he knows how to transform a relagation candidate into a regular European contender.
(- Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I think Mahrez leaving could be a good thing. He seemed unconcerned for a last part of the end of the season and I don't think his style is suited to Puel's tactics. He slowed down the tempo a lot by keeping the ball and trying to dribble and even if he scored a lot, I wonder if he didn't waste a lot more opprtunities by keeping the ball)

I don't know if LCFC's next season will be a success but I know there are a lot of reasons to be optimistic.

Edited 3 July 2018 by yks

[OhYesNdidi]

14 minutes ago, Foxy-Lady said:

Ive never had an issue with Puel and neither did i have any issues with any of our 3 previous managers either (shakespeare, Ranieri, Pearson)

 

However, I do have a slight issue with the objective of keeping us up as I doubt we were ever in serious danger of going down. This is not the benefit of hindsight as when people were calling for Shakey's head last Aug/Sept after our difficult start, I posted that with our squad of players, we would finish between 8-12 in the table regardless of who was manager (including my Mum!).  The fixtures worked against Shakey and were more favourable to Puel so I stand by my view that we will still finish 7-12 in the table next season.....UNLESS Puel proves either to be unbelievably good.....or unbelievably bad! 

We went to huddersifeld town and got dominated. Fed up of watching us spend £100s of millions and conceding possesion to teams like Bournemouth and Huddersfield. 

[yks]

5 minutes ago, OhYesNdidi said:

We went to huddersifeld town and got dominated. Fed up of watching us spend £100s of millions and conceding possesion to teams like Bournemouth and Huddersfield. 

Oh boy, you would probably start a riot if you were a Liverpool fan when they lost at Swansea or draw 0-0 at home against WBA.

Edited 3 July 2018 by yks

[OhYesNdidi]

1 minute ago, yks said:

Oh boy, you would probably start a riot if you were a Liverpool fan when they lost at Swansea or draw against WBA.

It's more to do with how we approach the game. We have better players, we want to Impose ourselves onto the game and the rest takes care of its self. 

[yks]

9 minutes ago, OhYesNdidi said:

It's more to do with how we approach the game. We have better players, we want to Impose ourselves onto the game and the rest takes care of its self. 

Ok fair enough, but don't you think the players have responsibilities in that matter ?
IDK, that's exactly what Vardy said at the end of the season, they didn't play as the coach wanted.