Izzy Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 5 minutes ago, GaelicFox said: I have committed to stop inadvertently trolling , it seems some of my posts have been considered Trolling by some and for that I apologise. Im still not clear what is trolling and what is having a strong opinion , but I’m open to learning and modifying my behaviour. Just want to thank @Mark and all the mods for allowing us to have this wonderful forum Mate, just to say if you'll still give me first refusal on your ST this season when you can't go, you can troll and abuse as much as you want and I won't report you. Cheers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Boos Up Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 Please, what is the difference between a Cyber bully and a troll ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 35 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said: Fewer 30 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said: Im getting better with my wording, thanks to my pedantic friend Less. She was right the first time. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 19 minutes ago, GaelicFox said: “Lately, we have seen a rise in amount of personal abuse. Too many topics have been derailed by unnecessary abuse. It will not be tolerated any longer. As the new season approaches I've updated the guidelines, what has been added is below. No cyber bullying It is very important that you carefully consider the type of posts you make on the forum and their consequences, whether direct/indirect or deliberate/unintentional. We can't and won't ever tolerate this forum being used for malicious communications, bullying or harassment of any sort. We can't police the internet but we can control what happens here on FT and we now have a zero tolerance approach for any content or posts of this type. We also take a dim view of personal abuse in general, so please consider the way in which you debate with others. We understand that you're not all going to agree with each other all of the time. If you can't stand reading the thoughts of another poster, put them on ignore. Furthermore, if you have been subjected to behaviour like this please know you can always contact any of the admin team and we'll do our best to help. Trolling Please just don't. We will be handing out suspensions/bans a lot more frequently in future for this offence. It's disruptive and tedious for those who just want to come here and use the forum to chat with fellow supporters. Please also remember the report function is an essential tool for maintaining decent standards on the forum and we ask you to please use it if you spot behaviour which breaches these forum rules. Thanks” @Mark I'm pretty sure Mark doesn't intend it as a free pass for racism to go unchallenged. You know, just in case anyone thought differently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 12 minutes ago, Buce said: Less. She was right the first time. Thank GOODNESS you pointed this HEINOUS ERROR out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 1 minute ago, HighPeakFox said: Thank GOODNESS you pointed this HEINOUS ERROR out. You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPeakFox Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 8 minutes ago, Buce said: You're welcome. I mean, a stupid person might have got it wrong.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 3 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said: I mean, a stupid person might have got it wrong.... He did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 2 hours ago, MC Prussian said: Thanks for the heads-up. However, since the guidelines are sort of fresh and formulated in a rather general manner, it's hard to tell what the moderating team really considers to be "abusive" behaviour and how this will all pan out in the near future. Some clarification would be helpful - otherwise, what's the chance of people being banned regularly for what the majority of posters would consider harmless, banter or even an appropriate reaction to another "offensive" comment or people trying to wind up other people - and this all ending up in chaos or some sort of anarchy due to one's subjective perceptions constantly trumping somebody else's? I mean, one can be offended by pretty much anything these days and the level of tolerance seems to drop by the minute - what about free speech or how do you define the framework on Foxestalk? What I'd like the moderating team and @Mark to think about is that a day and age of the snowflake cannot be the way forward. Encourage debate, but also tread lightly when it comes to people disagreeing with each other. If free speech is regulated because a minority or individuals (constantly) "feel" offended or bullied or trolled, where will it lead to and shouldn't the "offended" think about their own perception and character and maybe man up a bit themselves? It's a fine line. Sexist Ban MC please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 (edited) Well, that's me banned within the day then, haha..... I'm just gonna play safe and pretty much stop posting apart from to tell everyone how great they are and how I love you so..... I can't think of anything genuinely offensive I have ever said (OK, maybe once I was out of order) and yet I have been banned a few times, and quite often I have not even been able to fathom what it might have been for. I respect the mods on here and this is not a dig but open discussion is useful. It must be an awfully hard job being a mod and I wouldn't want it but, as someone else pointed out, offence is very subjective and I do worry that maybe sometimes intent, tone and context are not taken into account when someone is banned. As I think Suzie stated, a reason for being banned would be helpful and maybe a right to appeal the decision as often it is very frustrating to be banned and not given an explanation. I am a right nobber on here sometimes and post a lot of stupid stuff but I like to think I am never offensive and I certainly never mean any harm. I think self-policing of forums like this is very important and I welcome the new guidelines and will certainly take a look at my posts more carefully before submitting but I also hope a little context and reason is given into these decisions to ban. I love you all and the mods are all great and I hear, very handsome. X Edited 31 July 2018 by RumbleFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie the Fox Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 2 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: Well, that's me banned within the day then, haha..... I'm just gonna play safe and pretty much stop posting apart from to tell everyone how great they are and how I love you so..... I can't think of anything genuinely offensive I have ever said (OK, maybe once I was out of order) and yet I have been banned a few times, and quite often for I have not even been able to fathom what it might have been for. I respect the mods on here and this is not a dig but open discussion is useful. It must be an awfully hard job being a mod and I wouldn't want it but, as someone else pointed out, offence is very subjective and I do worry that maybe sometimes intent, tone and context are not taken into account when someone is banned. As I think Suzie stated, a reason for being banned would be helpful and maybe a right to appeal the decision as often it is very frustrating to be banned and not given an explanation. I am a right nobber on here sometimes and post a lot of stupid stuff but I like o think I am never offensive and I certainly never mean any harm. I think self-policing of forums like this is very important and I welcome the new guidlines and will certainly take a look at my posts more carefully before submitting but I also hope a little context and reason is given into these decisions to ban. I love you all and the mods are all great and I hear, very handsome. X And how little your penis is? On a serious note, you are perhaps one of the most unoffensive posters on this forum, you are always optimistic and are obviously not intellectually challenged. I find your posts a breath of fresh air sometimes and they can quite often be funny too. I find it hard to think you would ever be banned. X Love you Rumble and i aspire 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumbleFox Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said: And how little your penis is? On a serious note, you are perhaps one of the most unoffensive posters on this forum, you are always optimistic and are obviously not intellectually challenged. I find your posts a breath of fresh air sometimes and they can quite often be funny too. I find it hard to think you would ever be banned. X Love you Rumble and i aspire Ahhhhhhh shucks I am blushing. (Shall I send you the money via cheque or PayPal?). X Edited 31 July 2018 by RumbleFox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 8 minutes ago, Suzie the Fox said: And how little your penis is? On a serious note, you are perhaps one of the most unoffensive posters on this forum, you are always optimistic and are obviously not intellectually challenged. I find your posts a breath of fresh air sometimes and they can quite often be funny too. I find it hard to think you would ever be banned. X Love you Rumble and i aspire Inoffensive 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie the Fox Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 2 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said: Inoffensive 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 You’re all cúnts.......see you in a week 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 Hopefully you've read the guidelines carefully @Facecloth no more pointless abusive comments from you please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 (edited) Been reinstated after my ban... I'll behave myself from now on I promise! Edited 31 July 2018 by urban.spaceman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Buce said: I'm pretty sure Mark doesn't intend it as a free pass for racism to go unchallenged. You know, just in case anyone thought differently. Racism is illegal , being opinionated isn’t I have never knowingly been racist in my life ! but if I have been perceived to be such I deeply apologise for anyone I may have offended that comment for me is trolling , a deliberate attempt to upset and cause arguments but I’ll rise above it , and say your a decent fella and I appreciate your input Edited 31 July 2018 by GaelicFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 I may have been one of the last straws to break the camel's back today.... I posted in the transfer forum thread about that young Turkish lad Omur, basically saying it had gone quiet after we'd apparently put a bid in. Then I couldn't resist another post after it saying 'made you look'... I don't consider myself a troll though I do try to make my posts as humourous as possible, which can sadly get lost in translation online. I'm not aggressive, malicious or abusive in real life and I certainly hope I don't ever come across as such on here. I do love this community though so I hope I don't ever get misinterpreted as saying something I don't mean. Cheers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie the Fox Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 5 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said: I may have been one of the last straws to break the camel's back today.... I posted in the transfer forum thread about that young Turkish lad Omur, basically saying it had gone quiet after we'd apparently put a bid in. Then I couldn't resist another post after it saying 'made you look'... I don't consider myself a troll though I do try to make my posts as humourous as possible, which can sadly get lost in translation online. I'm not aggressive, malicious or abusive in real life and I certainly hope I don't ever come across as such on here. I do love this community though so I hope I don't ever get misinterpreted as saying something I don't mean. Cheers... I have never found you mean, in fact the opposite. You can be opinionated but hell, arnt we all ? I agree with your point 'alot can be lost in translation online' and what in your head seems funny can in text be taken in a totally different way. As @MC Prussianstated in his OP it would be nice to know the actual guidelines, but in reality thats an impossible task, as per the point above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 49 minutes ago, kingfox said: Hopefully you've read the guidelines carefully @Facecloth no more pointless abusive comments from you please It says no trolling aswell mate, so it's not a great start for you is it. I don't feel mentioning someone by name is sticking to the new rules. I seem to recall you called me Face**** amongst other things recently too, so you're hardly innocent. Also I'll admit I have got involved in a few crossed words at times but the last one you stepped in on with Col was him getting upset because I dared disagree with him. If anything he was making personal jibes at me. Anyway, said my peace, we're all meant to be being nice, so I won't get into a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 31 July 2018 Author Share Posted 31 July 2018 2 hours ago, Mike Oxlong said: Sexist Ban MC please Would be fun if there was a "No Forum Day" for once - imagine nobody being able to log in at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Facecloth said: It says no trolling aswell mate, so it's not a great start for you is it. I don't feel mentioning someone by name is sticking to the new rules. I seem to recall you called me Face**** amongst other things recently too, so you're hardly innocent. Also I'll admit I have got involved in a few crossed words at times but the last one you stepped in on with Col was him getting upset because I dared disagree with him. If anything he was making personal jibes at me. Anyway, said my peace, we're all meant to be being nice, so I won't get into a row. It's comments like these that indicate to me that you want to be perceived as innocent etc on here - but it can also somewhat imply, indirectly, that this could be seen as a sarcastic comment to you without trying to come across like this to the reader?.. Edited 31 July 2018 by Wymeswold fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie the Fox Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 5 minutes ago, MC Prussian said: Would be fun if there was a "No Forum Day" for once - imagine nobody being able to log in at all! There is ... Its called 'Maintenance' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 31 July 2018 Share Posted 31 July 2018 18 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: It's comments like these that indicate to me that you want to be perceived as innocent etc on here - but it can also somewhat imply, indirectly, that this could be seen as a sarcastic comment to you without trying to come across like this to the reader?.. With all due respect Wymesy, that makes absolutely no sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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