So, what's your plan Puel?

[KrefelderFox666]

Puel's plan is to finish 8th-10th and get knocked out of the cups. Unfortunately some PL teams are not winning enough to clear us so he has to create more defeats.

 

P.s. it's "your"

[smudgerfox]

Let’s be clear - we have not outplayed Premier opposition once this season. We have played well in some spells but never sustained it for a full game. Every game we have won in the league - with the possible exception of Huddersfield - we could just as easily have lost, and in that one we went behind early - how unusual. Our start ahgainst Wolves today was almost identical to the start v Everton on New Years Day - Wolves punished us, Everton didn’t.

 

and let’s not get carried away with the Academy products. We have three in the team/squad and playing them isn’t an end in itself. The end is to have a better team. Those who keep banging on about CP’s advocacy of youth need to explain what’s going on with Gray. Today, I saw him take a fine goal really well, but I also saw him typically negligent in possession for their first goal while wasting a host of other good openings with poor xecision-making. Despite racking up the appearances he isn’t getting better. - why is that? 

 

And as as others are pointing out - the kids could do with a proper leading captain - someone who makes sure the 3-3 is closed down - that’s how they’ll learn - not by throwing away the game.

[Legend_in_blue]

Plan A as you were.

 

Plan B is Plan A with more intensiteee, qualiteee, positiviteee and balonce.  

 

 

 

[KrefelderFox666]

5 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

Let’s be clear - we have not outplayed Premier opposition once this season. We have played well in some spells but never sustained it for a full game. Every game we have won in the league - with the possible exception of Huddersfield - we could just as easily have lost, and in that one we went behind early - how unusual. Our start ahgainst Wolves today was almost identical to the start v Everton on New Years Day - Wolves punished us, Everton didn’t.

 

and let’s not get carried away with the Academy products. We have three in the team/squad and playing them isn’t an end in itself. The end is to have a better team. Those who keep banging on about CP’s advocacy of youth need to explain what’s going on with Gray. Today, I saw him take a fine goal really well, but I also saw him typically negligent in possession for their first goal while wasting a host of other good openings with poor xecision-making. Despite racking up the appearances he isn’t getting better. - why is that? 

 

And as as others are pointing out - the kids could do with a proper leading captain - someone who makes sure the 3-3 is closed down - that’s how they’ll learn - not by throwing away the game.

It's OK, Morgan's contract is up in the summer

[AylestoneRaider]

1 hour ago, FIF said:

All his posts are embarrassing but he's not the only one. So many Foxes fans seem to think we have the right to be top six (or should I say not necessarily top 6 but top 7 at the worst) and not the right to be mid table. It is embarrassing for me as a fellow City supporter to be one of this small band of Leicester supporters in the world at times.

 

We all should be able to critisize and let off steam after losses and poor performances but a lot of us seem to have forgotten what it is to be a Leicester City supporter. Let's support our team overall.

I think the vast majority of fans accept that mid-table in the top flight is a strong position for us. I just think fans find certain tactical decisions very confusing. For example, electing to play a very defensive team at home vs Saints and then a more attacking side away at Wolves. Unsurprisingly, we struggled in an attacking sense vs Saints and were exposed defensively against Wolves.

 

I have been very open minded about Puel and I was supportive of his appointment and keen for us to play more possession based progressive football. However, I find many of his tactical decisions baffling and I think he sets up in totally the wrong way for home games. I think the football is very slow and lacks a clear identity and I think he is failing to get the best out of a talented crop of players. So from a balanced and reasonable point of view I would like to see a different manager at the club.

 

I respect the opinion of those that support Puel and I think it is important to remember we all want what’s best for the famous LCFC! Just trying to articulate my views....

[EnglishOxide]

48 minutes ago, SheppyFox said:

You have to remember a lot of our fans weren’t around when we were a shambles, some due to age and some due to fan base growth that inevitably comes with success  then there’s dem der stupid fans  

 

Edit:

(this is me agreeing with you)

 

I know but I'm only 30 and I feel old af trying to put our clubs season and position into context for some people 

 

There can't be THAT many youngsters on here.

[SheppyFox]

7 minutes ago, EnglishOxide said:

 

I know but I'm only 30 and I feel old af trying to put our clubs season and position into context for some people 

 

There can't be THAT many youngsters on here.

I’m 28, maybe it isn’t age, maybe they’re just behaving like spoilt brats and hiding it behind being “ambitious”  truth really is our squad isn’t that great, Pep couldn’t even work miracles with it.

[That_Dude]

3 hours ago, David Hankey said:

After today's debacle the question has to be asked.

 

It seems he is happy with mid-table mediocrity which might be good enough for him but most certainly not for thousands of fans,

 

I have been reluctant to say this but it really is time for a managerial change. Our last few performances have been abysmal and with top sides fixtures coming up all we can look forward to is probably anothe three lossses.

You've been beating this drum since forever.

[Babylon]

3 hours ago, David Hankey said:

Well, he's doing nothing for us securing 7th spot or attempting for the Club to go higher. You swear, I swear Puel simply is not good enough.

I really wish Puel had actually said fans need a reality check in his interview the other day. 

[Mr Mister]

We need to invest in intelligent footballers in order for whatever Puel is looking to achieve to work.

[David Hankey]

2 hours ago, Nicolo Barella said:

Are you seriously not content with mid-table mediocrity? I would be this season, considering the loss of Mahrez and the continued transition. Also, a typo in the title is just embarrassing. 

Thanks for pick-up regarding the missing "r". When you consider the points we have thrown away this season yes I am seriously not content with lower mid-table mediocrity. We have proved we can beat top sides without Mahrez, which is a somewhat meaningless statement, and to stumble against sides struggling in the bottom half is the embarrassment!!

[David Hankey]

15 minutes ago, That_Dude said:

You've been beating this drum since forever.

And plenty before me!!

[weller54]

13 minutes ago, Mr Mister said:

We need to invest in intelligent footballers in order for whatever Puel is looking to achieve to work.

The words intelligent and footballers don't work in the same context! 

[David Hankey]

14 minutes ago, Babylon said:

I really wish Puel had actually said fans need a reality check in his interview the other day. 

Ah, Babylon, another satisfied customer, poor sod.

[Guest TaggertvsWise]

I am a bit reluctant to post this as I always believe continuity is key in any team, business, sport, whatever but I think it is time for s change sadly. 

 

I belive in Puel, I believe in what he has done in sweeping out 2/3 regimes of deadwood, promoting the youth, trying to add extra dimensions to the way we play whilst rejuvenating some under performers and steering us with dignity through a very difficult period regarding Vichai’s death. We are constantly in the top 10, safe from relegation, at times are playing some good stuff but for some reason it doesn’t wash with us.

 

Personally, I think it’s a shame and we risk doing away with a very good manager but somewhere along the journey it got broken. The relationship isn’t there and neither is the well of goodwill that we as fans have to constantly go to in our relationship with whoever is in charge. It has seemingly ran dry and so have the options and balance of the team on the pitch.

 

I can’t see any other way for the next 6 months other than to start afresh and salvage what we can with a free hit and a great squad as this and see where it gets us. Sadly Puel, I do love you and how you go about your business but I feel your time is up. ?

[Mr Mister]

4 minutes ago, weller54 said:

The words intelligent and footballers don't work in the same context! 

I meant players with footballing intelligence.

[weller54]

He's a man 

With a plan 

Got a counterfeit player on his hands 

He's I hean ac ho. 

[Nicolo Barella]

7 hours ago, David Hankey said:

Thanks for pick-up regarding the missing "r". When you consider the points we have thrown away this season yes I am seriously not content with lower mid-table mediocrity. We have proved we can beat top sides without Mahrez, which is a somewhat meaningless statement, and to stumble against sides struggling in the bottom half is the embarrassment!!

We have always had a problem with bottom half sides, even before selling Mahrez. It's why Ranieri and Shakespeare were sacked, wasn't it? Castigating Puel for it as well after losing Mahrez (often our only means of saving points in dire games against poor teams) is ignoring the root of our problems, which I believe Puel is in the process of fixing.

[Dahnsouff]

He clearly wants more intensity, he clearly wants fast transitions, and he clearly wants more on field awareness/intelligence.

The question then becomes WHY is it not appearing with an acceptable level of consistency?

Puel’s fault?  Yes, of course, at least in some part.

Players fault?  Yes, of course, at least in some part,.

BUT the issue with the players has 2 possible conclusions for me,

1) training is not helping to a sufficient degree

2) players cannot or will not respond to a sufficient degree

Srill think Puel will get the season.

 

[ozleicester]

13 hours ago, Le god said:

Puels plan is to bore everyone to death so that we are all as miserable as he is 

Id suggest the last two games have been anything but boring

[Hanan96]

I think it will be the same. Bringing on younger while clearing deadwood /older player who will decline in less than 2 year bit by bit 

 

The first time he come, summer transfer window already done and the money were used. So using the option we have in this squad. The likes of Amartey, Chilwell, Gray, Iheanacho were stepped up to the team which aside nacho, they didn't get much game time and look likely shipped away rather than stay. The deadwood clearance start with putting fuchs and okazaki to the bench.

 

2nd season, first summer, quickly sign number of first teamer in, but in reasonable number (Ricardo, Evans, Madison) while sign player for future as well (benkovic, soyuncu). Unfortunately, the winger seems lightweight in option so look for them, although keep failing to sign (jahanbakash etc) and end up with ghezzal but no massive money. 

In the same time, also as first season, try the best option avaiable (this time mendy stepped up, later followed by Hamza and Barnes) 

 

So by the time those player gel with the team, the lesser old player here, and more sustainable squad for years to come 

 

The following summer, we just need one hard working Central midfield who are creative as well,  one winger/striker. Just 2-3 first teamer, reasonable number. 

 

Of course the balance is needed so sometimes those old guard need to play (Morgan when evans struggling with fitness, Vardy when Iheanacho is somehow missing, and Albrighton when Gray and Ghezzal didn't develop and perform as it hoped) 

 

So we could be a team which consistently compete for Europe rather than just in spells 

[Hanan96]

12 hours ago, AylestoneRaider said:

I think the vast majority of fans accept that mid-table in the top flight is a strong position for us. I just think fans find certain tactical decisions very confusing. For example, electing to play a very defensive team at home vs Saints and then a more attacking side away at Wolves. Unsurprisingly, we struggled in an attacking sense vs Saints and were exposed defensively against Wolves.

 

I have been very open minded about Puel and I was supportive of his appointment and keen for us to play more possession based progressive football. However, I find many of his tactical decisions baffling and I think he sets up in totally the wrong way for home games. I think the football is very slow and lacks a clear identity and I think he is failing to get the best out of a talented crop of players. So from a balanced and reasonable point of view I would like to see a different manager at the club.

 

I respect the opinion of those that support Puel and I think it is important to remember we all want what’s best for the famous LCFC! Just trying to articulate my views....

Agree. There are some things from him, especially tactical things, made me felt uncomfortable. Just annoyed when lot seems things this is the end of the world and set up agenda that we should recruit anyone just for the sake to replace him. 

 

Critics is good as long as its not harmful 

[foxinsocks]

15 hours ago, FIF said:

I'm happy with mid-table mediocrity - You must need CL.

 

I just hope Puel's plan is to continue with the revolution but now speed it up. Get rid of Morgan, simpson and Vardy on top of the other legends. Kasper as well if there's somewhere he wants to go. Bring in the young guard.

 

Think we should offload Maguire to Manure straight away whilst the stock is high. Is he really that much better than Soyunco, Benkovic, Hughes, Pascanu once they have a little more PL experience (which they'll only get with him gone). Evans is now playing better than him too.

Ok see your point.

Btw are there any of our players you actually like?

[Sly]

16 hours ago, smudgerfox said:

Let’s be clear - we have not outplayed Premier opposition once this season. We have played well in some spells but never sustained it for a full game. Every game we have won in the league - with the possible exception of Huddersfield - we could just as easily have lost, and in that one we went behind early - how unusual. Our start ahgainst Wolves today was almost identical to the start v Everton on New Years Day - Wolves punished us, Everton didn’t.

 

and let’s not get carried away with the Academy products. We have three in the team/squad and playing them isn’t an end in itself. The end is to have a better team. Those who keep banging on about CP’s advocacy of youth need to explain what’s going on with Gray. Today, I saw him take a fine goal really well, but I also saw him typically negligent in possession for their first goal while wasting a host of other good openings with poor xecision-making. Despite racking up the appearances he isn’t getting better. - why is that? 

 

And as as others are pointing out - the kids could do with a proper leading captain - someone who makes sure the 3-3 is closed down - that’s how they’ll learn - not by throwing away the game.

We’ve won games we could have lost.

We’ve lost games we could have won.

 

How many teams control a game for 90 minutes, ala Manchester City Vs Burton. Rarely. Liverpool were lucky to beat us. 

 

I appreciate it’s frustrating at the minute. I’m frustrated too. However you can’t change half the team overnight. We’ll be in a better position come the start of next season. I can see what Puel is doing and it’s quite clear he’s trying to change that. However he can only work with the tools he’s got. Half the Premier League would like a Ruben Neves. No point blowing more money on a player who’s only half as good. Look at Klopp, he’s waited to get the right man. Maybe Puel and the club are doing something similar.

 

The contracts of Okazaki, Simpson, Morgan, Fuchs 161 days time. It’s apparent that these need shifting on. They’ll be replaced in the squad by younger players. 

 

On another note ..... I’ve just found out that Mandy is the cousin of Befitimbi Gomis. 

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, foxinsocks said:

Ok see your point.

Btw are there any of our players you actually like?

 

I like all Leicester players. These were the players that I felt are not going to serve the team well anymore. Vardy is one of my favourite players of all time but that doesn't mean I think he should play for us for the next 5 years.

 

Clearly you completely missed the point of my post. We are in transition, out with the old and in with the new.

 

A squad featuring Ward, Iverson, Chilwell, Ricardo, Amartey, Soyunco, Benkovic, Hughes, Knight, Moore, Pascanu, Ughelumba, Johnson, Ndidi, Mendy, Choudhury, Dewsbury-Hall, Maddison, Gray, Iheanacho, Ghezzal already has 21 players all 26 or under. Then use the money we have plus sales of Maguire and the oldies to boost the midfield and attacking ranks and we have a squad that can challenge for Europe for the next decade.