FT General Election Poll 2019

[davieG]

2 hours ago, Footballwipe said:

I don't want to crap on these figures, because they might well be genuine and encouraging as people get invested in politics (and many other variables), but registering to vote is only the basis.

 

Once they've registered it goes to the local returning Council. A lot of the time many of these people are already registered, and have done the "register to vote" because there's no context around the circumstances in which you need to vote (if that makes sense, anyway.) People see the REGISTER TO VOTE headline and fill it in, either to make sure or "just in case"

 

Like said, if people are genuinely registering for the first time that's fantastic, but the filtered figures without duplicates, which won't be available unless you went to every local authority, is the important number.

I've just registered to vote because I've move to a different district since the last poll, wont there be many students doing the same.

[rachhere]

1 hour ago, Lionator said:

I'll be voting for whoever on the centre/left is most likely to get rid of the dreadful Nicky Morgan from my local area. 

Not standing apparently. Are there any Tories MPs who are standing?!

 

Easy vote for me - we have a Labour MP here who I have done a fair bit of work with him over the past 18 months, and thankfully off the back of that can vote for him with no hesitation. 

[Bob Hazels shorts]

I'm voting Liberal Democrats and if elected campaign to get the vote overturned.

 

Or vote for Catweazle and see his fear if he wins as he has actually got a job to do, be answerable and his long and lustrious career of protest and opposing for the sake of it is over.

[Izzy]

Just bear in mind there are a big number of lefties who are currently banned from Gen Chat and unable to vote.
If they could vote on this poll, it would probably be a lot closer 

[Alf Bentley]

Just now, Izzy said:

Just bear in mind there are a big number of lefties who are currently banned from Gen Chat and unable to vote.
If they could vote on this poll, it would probably be a lot closer 

 

Mods should set up a special FT polling station in the Bans thread.

[bovril]

I will vote out of principle but it's the same for me. My vote will change nothing. You could put up a benefit-scrounging Romanian gypsy on benefits that causes cancer and killed Diana, if he's running for the Conservatives the people of West Norfolk will vote for him. 

Shit system. 

 

Edit: quoted the wrong post

Edited 30 October 2019 by bovril

[Legend_in_blue]

10 minutes ago, bovril said:

I will vote out of principle but it's the same for me. My vote will change nothing. You could put up a benefit-scrounging Romanian gypsy on benefits that causes cancer and killed Diana, if he's running for the Conservatives the people of West Norfolk will vote for him. 

Shit system. 

 

Exactly the same situation in South Leicestershire.  There's not a cat in hells chance of someone other than Conservatives getting in again.  It's a crap system, I agree.

 

Would be amusing if Loughborough went away from Morgan though.

[Alf Bentley]

22 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

 

Would be amusing if Loughborough went away from Morgan though.

 

Morgan went away from Loughborough.... (not standing)

[Paninistickers]

As an aside, when did Boris Johnson develop his hunchback? 

[Izzy]

2 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

As an aside, when did Boris Johnson develop his hunchback? 

That’s what happens when you’re carrying the weight of the nation on your shoulders I guess 

[Paninistickers]

6 minutes ago, Izzy said:

That’s what happens when you’re carrying the weight of the nation on your shoulders I guess 

Good point. Though John Major managed to remain erect, despite his time in office

[Alf Bentley]

 

Richard III's old grave in the car park is still open and empty, isn't it?

 

Let's bury the fvcker! From Tricky Dicky to Tricky Dickhead.... 

[Facecloth]

49 minutes ago, Izzy said:

That’s what happens when you’re carrying the weight of the nation on your shoulders I guess 

Probably more to do with the fact he's worried people might eventually see him for the lying scheming **** he is.

[Mike Oxlong]

1 hour ago, Paninistickers said:

As an aside, when did Boris Johnson develop his hunchback? 

The forward weight of his massive wanger has gradually taken its toll

 

You didn’t think it was just his rakish good looks that wooed all those women into his boudoir ? 

 

 

Edited 30 October 2019 by Mike Oxlong

[Guest MattP]

Andrew Neil already on form tonight with Jo Swinson, it's a good job he's around instead of just Andrew Marr on the BBC who may as well be asking them what they have for breakfast.

"Will you join a Remain alliance with the SNP?"

"No, the SNP want to break up our Union"

"So the Remain alliance with Plaid isn't happening either this time?"

 

"Err, well, err that's a different situation"
 

[Guest Fktf]

Agree with all the comments regarding the system. My first vote was in a super safe tory seat, then two elections spent in a super safe labour seat, and now I'm again in super safe tory seat. The only time I've lived in a marginal there wasn't an election. I've voted every time, but really it has been utterly meaningless. 

[Dr The Singh]

59 minutes ago, Alf Bentley said:

 

Richard III's old grave in the car park is still open and empty, isn't it?

 

Let's bury the fvcker! From Tricky Dicky to Tricky Dickhead.... 

You talking about @MattP, me ( cus I know your jealous of my natural good looks and cheek bones) or am I missing something?

[Dr The Singh]

Is the BNP still around?

[Guest MattP]

7 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

Is the BNP still around?

Not in any serious form - the old leader Nick Griffin was last heard about giving his support for Jeremy Corbyn - https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2018/04/nick-griffin-declares-his-support-jeremy-corbyn

 

Pretty impressive from the magic Grandpa to bring in the far-left and the far-right to your cause. the Nazi's and the Communists - yet some of you are shit scared about Boris Johnson lowering corporation tax, strange times.

[Dr The Singh]

Just now, MattP said:

Not in any serious form - the old leader Nick Griffin was last heard about giving his support for Jeremy Corbyn - https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2018/04/nick-griffin-declares-his-support-jeremy-corbyn

 

Pretty impressive from the magic Grandpa to bring in the far-left and the far-right to your cause. the Nazi's and the Communists - yet some of you are shit scared about Boris Johnson lowering corporation tax, strange times.

WTF, shows how rotten Labour are with there anti Semite shit......still haven't decided whether to vote for either yet,........white hoods are in fashion, especially in Kashmir

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-asia-india-50231022

 

 

[WigstonWanderer]

7 hours ago, Alf Bentley said:

 

I very much agree with your analysis above. I'd add that they also want a majority to introduce Hard Right policies in other spheres, not just Brexit, and to have 5 years leeway to do it. By "they", I mean the majority of Tory MPs and members; I'm not sure how ideological Johnson himself is - I'd see his motivation more as hunger for power and approval, and downright narcissism. I'm also sure that the Brexit Party would use a majority as a mandate for No Deal.

 

But because the Tories are cynically seeking a mandate on false pretenses, or because the Brexit Party would do the same, is no reason for the Lib Dems to deploy similar cynicism and contempt for democracy.

The Revoke policy is a sly tactic designed to win them the title of "the Remain party" so as to win votes off defecting Labour & Tory Remain supporters & so get more MPs - regardless of the cost to social cohesion or support for democratic politics, if they win a majority, or to the Remain cause if they don't.

 

Because if the tactic works and they are perceived as "the party for Remain voters", but they don't win enough seats for a majority, then unless tactical voting is exceptionally strong, they'll also be taking votes off Labour in Lab/Con marginals and handing seats to the Tories.

It is unfortunate to say the least that the anti Brexit vote is being split in this way. Hopefully voters opposed to this disastrous and deceitful project will find the wit to vote tactically. If sufficient people have genuinely changed their minds since 2016 so as to form a majority of the electorate, it is important that this is reflected in the profile of the new parliament. Hopefully a confirmatory vote will then put paid to this divisive economic and social vandalism.

 

Like you, I believe that if the final proposals for leaving the EU are genuinely supported by the majority, then it has to go ahead.

[bovril]

8 minutes ago, MattP said:

Not in any serious form - the old leader Nick Griffin was last heard about giving his support for Jeremy Corbyn - https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2018/04/nick-griffin-declares-his-support-jeremy-corbyn

 

Pretty impressive from the magic Grandpa to bring in the far-left and the far-right to your cause. the Nazi's and the Communists - yet some of you are shit scared about Boris Johnson lowering corporation tax, strange times.

Ah yes, x supports y therefore y must equal x. As a Brexit voter you must appreciate how unfair that assumption is.

 

And by the way I am not a Corbyn supporter and still unsure who to vote for. 

[Dr The Singh]

1 minute ago, bovril said:

Ah yes, x supports y therefore y must equal x. As a Brexit voter you must appreciate how unfair that assumption is.

 

And by the way I am not a Corbyn supporter and still unsure who to vote for. 

Don't waste.your vote, vote BNP, there the real New Labour

[Guest MattP]

11 minutes ago, bovril said:

Ah yes, x supports y therefore y must equal x. As a Brexit voter you must appreciate how unfair that assumption is.

 

And by the way I am not a Corbyn supporter and still unsure who to vote for. 

Just making the point it's one hell of an effort to manage to attract support from communists and neo-nazis. A miracle in fact.

 

It must be the kinder, gentler politics he offers.

Edited 30 October 2019 by MattP

[ousefox]

Quite a lot of silent Tories voting on this. I can only see a few who have commented. Are people embarrassed? I really can't understand why many traditional Tories can vote for Johnson unless you have always been to the right of the party. I can fully understand it in that case - fair game. I've said it before but I'm shocked a Tory party that has no room for Clarke, Rudd etc can appeal to the majority of voters (what the polls suggest so far). Is it a simple message to simple voters that's working? 

 

What happened to the Tories being the safe pair of hands for the economy? Independent research has shown Johnson's deal will cost us over £2k each a year (funnily enough he refused to do a govt economic impact analysis on it), and suddenly he's found Labour's magic money tree and austerity was a waste of time.

 

He pointlessly and illegally prorogued Parliament, had a waste of time Queen's speech, wasted millions of £s of taxpayer money pushing his 31 October deadline through advertising, is mad enough to have Raab, Patel and Leadsom in his cabinet, and just doesn't stop lying. Not to mention the Acuri issue. Do you really respect this man and think he wants the best for this country? Even his brother and sister don't seem to.

 

Or are you simply voting on Brexit? A Johnson let majority taking us out of the EU is an incredibly scary prospect imo.

 

Anyway it's not even the best of a bad bunch for me, it's the least worst option of the bunch. I guess that's why people may vote Tory too. I'm undecided but Labour will win my seat anyway. I'd rather be dead in a ditch than vote for Johnson, Corbyn is the worst leader of the opposition in history, and I think Swinson has made some weird decisions since she became leader that doesn't encourage me to vote for her.

 

Sorry I've gone on a rant 😂