The Campaign to Re-Open The Ivanhoe Line

[boots60]

4 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Just been reading that the great central railway are about ready to link up the Leicester and Nottingham sections (I didn't know Nottingham had a working section tbh) 

 

Point being, how on earth can a few fuddy duddy railway enthusiasts build and maintain a 30 odd mile line yet with nothing but charity donations yet Network Rail reckons it'd cost £272m quid upgrading an existing line from Coalville to Leicester? 

 

Edit 5m quid it cost them, raised through donations. What a mess this country is in, being quoted 272m FFS

Because Fuddy Duddy's come from an era where things got done.

[Mike the Metal Ed]

21 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Just been reading that the great central railway are about ready to link up the Leicester and Nottingham sections (I didn't know Nottingham had a working section tbh) 

 

Point being, how on earth can a few fuddy duddy railway enthusiasts build and maintain a 30 odd mile line yet with nothing but charity donations yet Network Rail reckons it'd cost £272m quid upgrading an existing line from Coalville to Leicester? 

 

Edit 5m quid it cost them, raised through donations. What a mess this country is in, being quoted 272m FFS

Surely the national railway network has a lot more sophisticated signalling requirements than a heritage/hobbyist line, and that would be where the extra comes from.

[MPH]

2 minutes ago, Mike the Metal Ed said:

Surely the national railway network has a lot more sophisticated signalling requirements than a heritage/hobbyist line, and that would be where the extra comes from.

 

 

267m for some red and green lightbulbs! heads gone!

[Paninistickers]

2 minutes ago, Mike the Metal Ed said:

Surely the national railway network has a lot more sophisticated signalling requirements than a heritage/hobbyist line, and that would be where the extra comes from.

Agreed. But you get my point. Nothing gets done at public sector level without over expense and faff. 

 

There's gotta be a middle way, surely?

[MPH]

J

[MPH]

Japanese sink hole repaired in 3 days! get the Japanese on it!

[Filbert_Ross]

Narborough to leicester train prices seem to have doubled. £14.80 return now.  10

min trip

[Greg2607]

I genuinely think we need a nationalised Rail & Bus Service.  it's no longer we are heavily reliant on cars when the trains and buses are SO expensive and horrendously inadequate. 

[PAULCFC]

1 hour ago, Greg2607 said:

I genuinely think we need a nationalised Rail & Bus Service.  it's no longer we are heavily reliant on cars when the trains and buses are SO expensive and horrendously inadequate. 

Completely agree....most European Rail/Bus services are not there to make a profit for share holders....we need to get back to them being a public service.

[Otis]

2 hours ago, Filbert_Ross said:

Narborough to leicester train prices seem to have doubled. £14.80 return now.  10

min trip

£7.70 On the app. Looks like you selected 2 singles. 

Edited 20 May 2024 by Otis

[Filbert_Ross]

45 minutes ago, Otis said:

£7.70 On the app. Looks like you selected 2 singles. 

That's changed from earlier. 

 

even looked at south Wigston to/from leicester & that was £10.40 return. 
 

glad the price looks more normal now. 🎉

[Filbert_Ross]

58 minutes ago, Otis said:

£7.70 On the app. Looks like you selected 2 singles. 

Worked it out. 
 

i normally return same day. I'll be returning the following day hence the return trip costing double to what I'm used to paying.  

[Guest Lako42]

55 minutes ago, Filbert_Ross said:

Worked it out. 
 

i normally return same day. I'll be returning the following day hence the return trip costing double to what I'm used to paying.  

Cancel the nationalisation now lads

[Paninistickers]

Rachel Reeves having to cut road and rail projects, so says the news. 

 

That's gonna be bad for this (tho the scheme is half baked anyway)

[Guest Lako42]

3 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Rachel Reeves having to cut road and rail projects, so says the news. 

 

That's gonna be bad for this (tho the scheme is half baked anyway)

Country is a complete ****ing mess. 

 

We will feel the effects of this last 14 years for generations. 

 

 

Regressive shithole

[HighPeakFox]

Just now, Lako42 said:

Regressive shithole

"That was 'I crap inwards' by Regressive Shithole" - John Peel (perhaps)

[davieG]

Douglas McLay

CAMPAIGN FOR THE REOPENING OF THE IVANHOE LINE

CONTACT INFORMATION:

CRIL

Douglas McLay

RELEASE DATE:

29 July 2024

SWADLINCOTE DERBYSHIRE 29 July 2024

Ivanhoe Line reopening funding cut!

In her speech in the House of Commons today Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves announced that she was cancelling the Restoring Your Railways budget from which the Ivanhoe Line reopening was to be funded. This leaves the scheme to reopen the Line from Coalville to Burton on Trent unfunded and therefore is in danger of being cancelled. This despite the newly elected Labour MPs in the constituencies along the Line pledging their strong support for the reopening during the recent election campaign.

Rachel Reeves said today that one of the government's first actions on coming to power is to cut a large number of planned infrastructure projects, including the Restoring Your Railways Programme from which the first phase of the reopening of the Ivanhoe Line was to be funded. This would be a body blow to the Campaign to reopen the Line. The Treasury have stated tonight that the Ivanhoe Line is unlikely to be funded.

The first phase of the reopening recommended by Network Rail as part of the Outline Business Case study was to run a Derby to Coalville service via Burton. During the recent election Campaign the now elected MPs for South Derbyshire and North West Leicestershire whose constituents would have benefited from the reopening pledged their strong support.

In her speech in the House the Chancellor announced that there is to be a review by the Transport Secretary of transport infrastructure schemes currently underway to identify any whose benefits may justify replacement funding being made available. CRIL feel that this review represents an opportunity for the local Labour MPs to lobby their government by highlighting the strong social and economic case already identified by the Department of Transport. The funding required to bring passenger services from Derby to Burton, Swadlincote, Ashby and Coalville (circa £100M) is very modest in the scheme of things

Although the first phase of the reopening is to go as far as Coalville, CRIL remains

fully committed to get the Line reopened through to the mainline station in Leicester.

CRIL Spokesman Douglas McLay said

“After so much optimism generated by the very positive outcome of the Outline Business Case prepared for the Department of Transport, this is a bitter blow to the campaign.

Now is the chance for the new Labour MPs in the two key constituencies, who were so supportive of the reopening during the recent election campaign, to roll up their sleeves and demonstrate to their government that the relatively modest investment needed will quickly deliver significant social and economic benefits to the A511 corridor.

CRIL aims to work in partnership with our MPs to support their work lobbying for the line. We will also be organising a Call to Action to coordinate our local supporters to express their views to local and national politicians”

BACKGROUND INFORMATION

CRIL (The Campaign for the Re-opening of the Ivanhoe Line) was formed by

the late Geoff Bushell in 2019. He tirelessly raised awareness and support for

the reopening of the Ivanhoe Line and formed a team of volunteer specialists

to support him. He gained the public support of all nine first and second tier

local authorities along the line, as well as all the local MPs, all of whom

continue to support the Campaign.

CRIL bid to Join the Governments Restoring Your Railways Programme and

was selected to participate in the first wave. The Programme provided

funding for work to complete the Outline Business case and work is now

underway to complete the Full business Case. The indications prior to general

election Purdah were that the case was very strong.

Sadly we lost Geoff to Covid in 2020, and the rest of the committee pledged

to carry on his work to re open the Line by completing the SOBC and actively

campaigning for the reopening of the Ivanhoe Line

[Stadt]

Wank

[HighPeakFox]

I don't know if it has been said, but I suspected that this was all empty promises made by the previous administration - something they specialised in (Northern Power House, HS2, Levelling Up) and that all that has happened is that somebody is now exposing that practice to light. Amazing how they have managed to hide in plain sight all this time with the help of their client journalists and mendacious media editors. Mendacious bastards, the lot of them.

[Sly]

I think this is more that the numbers don’t stack up, so it’s getting axed until it does. 
 

I’ve no doubt this will get used, however to what extent is debatable. 
 

It is unfortunate, as the value is intangible in my opinion, as it benefits a more long term reduction in road traffic. 

[Leicester_Loyal]

Don't think this will happen for a long long time yet, certainly not under the current campaign which they're trying.

[Daggers]

On 29/07/2024 at 18:59, HighPeakFox said:

"That was 'I crap inwards' by Regressive Shithole" - John Peel (perhaps)

"Joining Regressive Shithole was the second best thing that ever happened to me in my working life. The best thing was getting kicked out" - Not Marc Riley.

[Greg2607]

18 hours ago, Sly said:

I think this is more that the numbers don’t stack up, so it’s getting axed until it does. 
 

I’ve no doubt this will get used, however to what extent is debatable. 
 

It is unfortunate, as the value is intangible in my opinion, as it benefits a more long term reduction in road traffic. 

North West Leicestershire though is one of the largest areas in the UK without Rail Access.... I think I read that Coalville is the 2nd or 3rd Largest town without a Train Service / Railway Station. 

 

It's madness to me that you can have large parts of the country with no access to a rail network. 

 

Lots of this national infrastructure needs taking out of the responsibility of the government and put in the control of some legislature that has LONG TERM plans.... give it to the house of lords to manage for instance and make it a cross house initiative. 

[Tommy G]

20 hours ago, HighPeakFox said:

I don't know if it has been said, but I suspected that this was all empty promises made by the previous administration - something they specialised in (Northern Power House, HS2, Levelling Up) and that all that has happened is that somebody is now exposing that practice to light. Amazing how they have managed to hide in plain sight all this time with the help of their client journalists and mendacious media editors. Mendacious bastards, the lot of them.

This is all speculation and we shouldn't be discussing speculation politics, it doesn't end well. 

[Stadt]

16 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

North West Leicestershire though is one of the largest areas in the UK without Rail Access.... I think I read that Coalville is the 2nd or 3rd Largest town without a Train Service / Railway Station. 

Dudley (has stations within a few miles) and Rushden are the two bigger places.