Online LCC planning application (new Mosque proposed in an already congested Evington Village)

[Itsthejoeker]

1 minute ago, josh_baskin said:

Hi Forum members,

 

I take it everyone is safe and well.

 

A planning application had been logged for yet another Mosque in the Evington Area (village) and in a place that is already congested and really cannot cope with any more places of worship.

 

 

That question was answered when the tread was started.

I was asking OP for his personal opinion. 
 

 

[Dr The Singh]

I sympathize with the OP, but there must be a good reason why they have applied for another Mosque?

[josh_baskin]

4 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said:

I sympathize with the OP, but there must be a good reason why they have applied for another Mosque?

Obviously there must be demand for one which is a good reason alone but whoever started the petition deems this to be impractical, warranting a debate like in any in any other good democratic society.

[Dr The Singh]

2 minutes ago, josh_baskin said:

Obviously there must be demand for one which is a good reason alone but whoever started the petition deems this to be impractical, warranting a debate like in any in any other good democratic society.

Happy we can discuss these things sensibly

[newfox1]

I got loads of Muzlim mates to be honest. Don't do no harm and are lovely neighbours. Would you rather a nightclub open nearby? A pub ? Yes, might get busy on Fridays or for an hour but so do schools and other busy places. 

 

Also, when these places open, it adds thousands to you property so you can sell up and go to a much better place where you have fewer people of colour to you and where you'd feel more comfortable. You could then feel proper English that way. That would be better for everyone. 

Edited 4 September 2020 by newfox1

[jonthefox]

4 hours ago, Footballwipe said:

Aside from your overt bigotry, Planning Application objections actually need to have proper reasons for them to be taken into consideration. Councils cannot refuse applications on the basis that "I don't want no more of them round my way"

 

Planning is also not a "numbers game" 10,000 complaints won't get it refused. People love to espouse the money wasted by councils. How about refusing an application that just gets overturned by the Inspectorate because it wasn't refused on solid grounds. Costs the Council £££ in fees.

 

Could you also clarify what you mean by "they always," who are you referring to? I think we all know the answer, but for clarity, go on, have the brevity to say it out loud for us.

 

 

I bet you're vegan. 

[DennisNedry]

4 hours ago, StanSP said:

Propose another church and see what happens

 

4 hours ago, Footballwipe said:

Aside from your overt bigotry, Planning Application objections actually need to have proper reasons for them to be taken into consideration. Councils cannot refuse applications on the basis that "I don't want no more of them round my way"

 

Planning is also not a "numbers game" 10,000 complaints won't get it refused. People love to espouse the money wasted by councils. How about refusing an application that just gets overturned by the Inspectorate because it wasn't refused on solid grounds. Costs the Council £££ in fees.

 

Could you also clarify what you mean by "they always," who are you referring to? I think we all know the answer, but for clarity, go on, have the brevity to say it out loud for us.

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Itsthejoeker said:

Would you be alright with a Church?

 

15 minutes ago, newfox1 said:

I got loads of Muzlim mates to be honest. Don't do no harm and are lovely neighbours. Would you rather a nightclub open nearby? A pub ? Yes, might get busy on Fridays or for an hour but so do schools and other busy places. 

 

Also, when these places open, it adds thousands to you property so you can sell up and go to a much better place where you have fewer people of colour to you and where you'd feel more comfortable. You could then feel proper English that way. That would be better for everyone. 

 

To everybody asking 'would you object if it wasn't a mosque?'...

 

... Would YOU post on here attacking this bloke for his objection if it were a church/pub/housing estate etc? You see these kinds of things shared all the time for all sorts of developments.

 

I find that kindness and politeness get thrown under the bus for half a chance to virtue signal.

[Rusko187]

[newfox1]

13 minutes ago, DennisNedry said:

 

 

 

 

To everybody asking 'would you object if it wasn't a mosque?'...

 

... Would YOU post on here attacking this bloke for his objection if it were a church/pub/housing estate etc? You see these kinds of things shared all the time for all sorts of developments.

 

I find that kindness and politeness get thrown under the bus for half a chance to virtue signal.

He didn't ask about a pub or church. He specifically asked about a mosque opening. We are specifically discussing what he *actually* said, not about what he could have said. 

 

What's next for the thread starter?? Ban Muzlim players from playing for the foxes? Cos that's where it's heading. 

[josh_baskin]

15 minutes ago, newfox1 said:

He didn't ask about a pub or church. He specifically asked about a mosque opening. We are specifically discussing what he *actually* said, not about what he could have said. 

 

What's next for the thread starter?? Ban Muzlim players from playing for the foxes? Cos that's where it's heading. 

It was also worded as saying a place of worship which is likely to prompt even bigger mass gatherings during the time of a pandemic, in a city which has already faced lockdown on one occasion.

Edited 4 September 2020 by josh_baskin

[newfox1]

All places of worship were closed during the pandemic. They now have limited services.

 

It may be the greedy business that supply online garments that's more likely to be the cause. Ban then too? Nah, cos they pay taxes and money.

 

What about the 000s at the beach, illegal raves, celebrating the lifting of the titles, promotions? Selective memory? Don't forget, it was the mosques, churches and temples and gurdwaras doing wonders for the community , food banks for people  that have been abandoned by the council. Whilst the mayor going and seeing his partner etc.  

 

Shall we also close Leicester schools, colleges and unis too as people will mix now? Or just blame the people wanting to have an application to open a peaceful place of worship?

Edited 5 September 2020 by newfox1

[Dr The Singh]

2 hours ago, newfox1 said:

I got loads of Muzlim mates to be honest. Don't do no harm and are lovely neighbours. Would you rather a nightclub open nearby? A pub ? Yes, might get busy on Fridays or for an hour but so do schools and other busy places. 

 

Also, when these places open, it adds thousands to you property so you can sell up and go to a much better place where you have fewer people of colour to you and where you'd feel more comfortable. You could then feel proper English that way. That would be better for everyone. 

A pub maybe

[Fightforever]

This is comedy gold. Surely if there is too much congestion like you say the council will just reject the application no need to get your nickers in a twist.

[Dr The Singh]

1 hour ago, newfox1 said:

All places of worship were closed during the pandemic. They now have limited services.

 

It may be the greedy business that supply online garments that's more likely to be the cause. Ban then too? Nah, cos they pay taxes and money.

 

What about the 000s at the beach, illegal raves, celebrating the lifting of the titles, promotions? Selective memory? Don't forget, it was the mosques, churches and temples/gurdwaras doing wonders for the community , food banks for people  that have been abandoned by the council. Whilst the mayor going and seeing his partner etc.  

 

Shall we also close Leicester schools, colleges and unis too as people will mix now? Or just blame the people wanting to have an application to open a peaceful place of worship?

Please dont temples/gurdwaras, that's offensive

[Stoopid]

I'm confused. What Evington we talking about? Evington village-as in Spencefield Lane, Golf course,  Shady Lane type of thing? 

In which case 'crowded' isn't the first adjective that springs to mind. 

If you're talking North Evington - that's a different place - couple of miles away. 

Anyway why the flup would I care if they opened another mosque,  church,  synagogue,  petrol-station or knocking-shop anywhere in the bleeding world including next door to me?

I wouldn't. 

[The Syrup]

I'm not a Muslim nor live in Evington, but might write to the council encouraging them to allow planning permission after reading this thread.

 

Edited 4 September 2020 by The Syrup

[Wymsey]

Am sure Mr. Vaz will approve it.

[peach0000]

You only have to read the public responses on that page to see the kind of people who are objecting it. Most just plainly say that they don't want any more mosques in the area which is no kind of grounds for objection and you do have to wonder whether they would say the same about a church etc. I suspect not. 

[UniFox21]

Isn't Evington a bottled water brand?

Edited 4 September 2020 by UniFox21

[josh_baskin]

25 minutes ago, peach0000 said:

You only have to read the public responses on that page to see the kind of people who are objecting it. Most just plainly say that they don't want any more mosques in the area which is no kind of grounds for objection and you do have to wonder whether they would say the same about a church etc. I suspect not. 

What kind of people are they? People who have the right to voice there disapproval to something because they live in a democracy maybe. 
Would all the people of Evington approve if the plans were for a synagogue?

Edited 4 September 2020 by josh_baskin

[newfox1]

8 hours ago, Dr The Singh said:

Please dont temples/gurdwaras, that's offensive

Sorry about that. Could you clarify as some of my Siikh mates say temple sometimes?

Edited 5 September 2020 by newfox1

[Evington Fosse Fox]

9 hours ago, Stoopid said:

I'm confused. What Evington we talking about? Evington village-as in Spencefield Lane, Golf course,  Shady Lane type of thing? 

In which case 'crowded' isn't the first adjective that springs to mind. 

If you're talking North Evington - that's a different place - couple of miles away. 

Anyway why the flup would I care if they opened another mosque,  church,  synagogue,  petrol-station or knocking-shop anywhere in the bleeding world including next door to me?

I wouldn't. 

Near Evington Library and the Cedars pub.

[Trumpet]

2 minutes ago, Evington Fosse Fox said:

Near Evington Library and the Cedars pub.

Funnily enough, that’s exactly the place I always think could do with an extra place of worship.

 

Sod the newts, get it done.

[Stoopid]

8 hours ago, UniFox21 said:

Isn't Evington a bottled water brand?

No mate, that's Everton. 

[Dr The Singh]

1 hour ago, newfox1 said:

Sorry about that. Could you clarify as some of my Siikh mates say temple sometimes?

Temples are.hindu temple

Gurdwara are house of the guru, a temple is not house of the guru