Ricardo Pereira

[Lewis's Junior]

17 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Without that GBH from Tyler Morton he would’ve ended up going Bayern, PSG or Inter..he was THAT good. 
 

Shame.

I may have misremembered but didn’t he get his first ACL the season or two before that challenge?

[moore_94]

5 minutes ago, Lewis's Junior said:

I may have misremembered but didn’t he get his first ACL the season or two before that challenge?

Yeah the ACL that ruined him was in March 2020 against Villa - last game before the season stopped for Covid

 

Tyler Morton broken leg was December 2021

 

He then tore his achilles in pre-season 2022 against Sevilla

Edited 3 May by moore_94

[sdb]

3 hours ago, David Hankey said:

Ritchie Norman for one.

A bloke from the 1950s?! I mean that's a long way to go back for your first example. And I'm pretty certain that, objectively, Ricardo would be a better player. What was Norman like?

 

Can you add some others? I genuinely had no idea we'd had so many top class RBs.

Edited 3 May by sdb

[David Hankey]

1 hour ago, sdb said:

A bloke from the 1950s?! I mean that's a long way to go back for your first example. And I'm pretty certain that, objectively, Ricardo would be a better player. What was Norman like?

 

Can you add some others? I genuinely had no idea we'd had so many top class RBs.

What's the problem with "a bloke" from the 1950's?

 

In your original post you used the word "ever", obviously not realising how long the history of this Club is.

[sdb]

11 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

What's the problem with "a bloke" from the 1950's?

 

In your original post you used the word "ever", obviously not realising how long the history of this Club is.

And you said there were plenty better, only to name one bloke who played when the sport was miles off the standard of today, and the club weren't competing in Europe on the regular. 

 

Ricardo was a class player during the club's best ever period. I've never even heard of the fella you mentioned in 30 years of following the club, and you've not given even a hint of what he was like, nor any of the "plenty" others better than RP.

[David Hankey]

17 minutes ago, sdb said:

And you said there were plenty better, only to name one bloke who played when the sport was miles off the standard of today, and the club weren't competing in Europe on the regular. 

 

Ricardo was a class player during the club's best ever period. I've never even heard of the fella you mentioned in 30 years of following the club, and you've not given even a hint of what he was like, nor any of the "plenty" others better than RP.

Take your blinkers of and look at the history of the Club and you'll find a Welsh international, Peter Rodrigues. 

 

Incidentally, Pereira, wasn't here in our "best ever period", the 2015/2016 title winning season.

 

Anyway, that's the end of the history lesson as far as I am concerned.

 

 

[sdb]

48 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

Take your blinkers of and look at the history of the Club and you'll find a Welsh international, Peter Rodrigues. 

 

Incidentally, Pereira, wasn't here in our "best ever period", the 2015/2016 title winning season.

 

Anyway, that's the end of the history lesson as far as I am concerned.

 

 

Our best ever period is 2015-2021. He was here for the majority of that. 

 

What did your 2 suggestions achieve here? Top 5 finishes in England's top league? European runs? Which of them scored in a european quarter final? Id suggest it's you with the blinkers on, esepcially if you're trying to stop a genuine debate

[Trav Le Bleu]

2 hours ago, sdb said:

A bloke from the 1950s?! I mean that's a long way to go back for your first example. And I'm pretty certain that, objectively, Ricardo would be a better player. What was Norman like?

 

Can you add some others? I genuinely had no idea we'd had so many top class RBs.

For me, 2nd would be Gary Mills.

 

There's no comparison really.

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 hour ago, David Hankey said:

What's the problem with "a bloke" from the 1950's?

 

In your original post you used the word "ever", obviously not realising how long the history of this Club is.

You can't compare.

 

Fitness levels and a higher degree of professionalism means that "probably" (since it can't be proved) players from 70 years ago would be outclassed.

 

If they were to get the same medical assistance and physio etc, who knows? Nobody.

 

Besides which in the 1950s, right back was pretty much right centre back, balls were heavier, pitches muddier and rules were different.

 

I think we can safely say that, due to advanced in health care and physical training ALL athletes from years past would be at a disadvantage in the current time.

 

 

[Finnegan]

3 hours ago, Lewis's Junior said:

I may have misremembered but didn’t he get his first ACL the season or two before that challenge?

 

3 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Yeah the ACL that ruined him was in March 2020 against Villa - last game before the season stopped for Covid

 

Tyler Morton broken leg was December 2021

 

He then tore his achilles in pre-season 2022 against Sevilla

 

Grealish crippled him didn't he? 

 

[hackneyfox]

2 hours ago, sdb said:

A bloke from the 1950s?! I mean that's a long way to go back for your first example. And I'm pretty certain that, objectively, Ricardo would be a better player. What was Norman like?

 

Can you add some others? I genuinely had no idea we'd had so many top class RBs.

 Nish

Pontus

[moore_94]

8 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

 

Grealish crippled him didn't he? 

 

I think it was a 50/50 tackle with Grealish

[EastAnglianFox]

3 hours ago, moore_94 said:

Yeah the ACL that ruined him was in March 2020 against Villa - last game before the season stopped for Covid

 

Tyler Morton broken leg was December 2021

 

He then tore his achilles in pre-season 2022 against Sevilla

We were so, so good in that Villa game, I can’t help but wonder where we would be now if not for the lockdown.

 

Possibly not FA Cup winners so I know it’s all if’s buts and maybes 

[Jimmy]

He's the one non-loan player leaving I'm sad to see go

[Unabomber]

1 hour ago, David Hankey said:

What's the problem with "a bloke" from the 1950's?

 

In your original post you used the word "ever", obviously not realising how long the history of this Club is.

If you remember how a rb played in the 1950s you must’ve been about 20 at the time. So now you must be around 96? 

[sdb]

2 hours ago, hackneyfox said:

 Nish

Pontus

You are saying Pontus Kaamark was a better right back than Ricardo? 

 

Can you please confirm that's correct? Happy to send help over if you stick you're address in too!! 

[cropstonfox]

1 hour ago, sdb said:

You are saying Pontus Kaamark was a better right back than Ricardo? 

 

Can you please confirm that's correct? Happy to send help over if you stick you're address in too!! 

Pontus was defensively better.Remember the League cup final.Juninho was nullified.

Ricky never had that strength or positional

Awareness ,although Ricky was a lot better

attacking. 

[cropstonfox]

Steve Whitworth, also was a better defender than Ricky

[Samilktray]

Can’t believe there’s people suggesting blokes who kicked pigs bladders around were better right backs for us than Ricardo

[SystonFox]

14 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

Can’t believe there’s people suggesting blokes who kicked pigs bladders around were better right backs for us than Ricardo

Or Pontus kaamark.

 

dont get me wrong I loved the 90s and I loved that league cup final but Pontus was not better.

 

Alan Maybury on the other hand…..

[Trav Le Bleu]

31 minutes ago, cropstonfox said:

Pontus was defensively better.Remember the League cup final.Juninho was nullified.

Ricky never had that strength or positional

Awareness ,although Ricky was a lot better

attacking. 

Pontus played as DM in that game didn't he? Followed Juninho wherever he went, which he couldn't do as RB.

 

He's one of my favourite players, but also worth noting, I don't think he ever scored for us.

 

Pontus was very versatile, which is something people seem to forget about Ricky P too.

[The Horse's Mouth]

I can understand questioning him being the best purely just because of the shelf life, he had like what a year and half before he was barely available again, if you’re talking raw ability then yeah you probably do have to go back to the ice kings or whatever . I’d probably take Simpson over him honestly

[trooky]

He was very good up to the injuries and one good season under Maresca but we should never have offered him a contract extensions because the last 2 seasons have been woeful. 

[Sly]

Ricardo at his peak, was maybe the best right back in the Premier League the season, contest with Trent and Wan-Bisakka. 
 

However injuries ruin players. 
 

He wouldn’t have stayed with us if he hadn’t got injured. 

[Ninety Nine Fox]

He didn't adjust to Premier League football straight away, but once he did, Ricardo was comfortably one of the best right-backs in the league. If it wasn't for the big injuries, he likely would have gone on to play for a top European club.