hackneyfox Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 1 minute ago, Lambert09 said: yeah and how many g & a should perez, barnes or vardy have? because i can bet it’s more I’d happily see the back of Perez and Barnes on recent form. Barnes is generally poor but then grabs a few goals, I’m hoping his game will improve if/when the long awaited rw is signed.
Lambert09 Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dusty said: Doesn’t particularly make sense given your previous comment but fair enough. The only positions he could play is up top or attacking midfield. He scores fewer than Daka and Maddison is a better attacking midfielder than he is, so makes sense a lot of the time imo. He also struggles to play up front on his own, and often if you play him and Maddison together they occupy the same positions, so I understand why he doesn’t feature all that often tbh. That said, when Maddison is injured I think he has to be in the team as he brings the creativity, ball progression and goal threat we miss when Maddison is out. Kel is one of many players in our squad that is talented but needs to play in a specific role/system in order or him to be successful. I don’t think you’re wrong in what you’re saying but he’s been pushed down to last resort. When in reality at this stage he should arguably get more minutes than vardy. I think a lot of managers would have looked at his goal record and found a way to utilize him and whilst he might not make the first 11, when players are off form he should be getting a chance. Barnes has been kak for a while, perez has been kak forever and vardy has 1 league goal this year. Play kel every game, he’d be top scorer and that’s hard to argue. Edited 7 January 2023 by Lambert09
sacreblueits442 Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 8 minutes ago, Ted Maul said: Turned it around before the world cup but he's got no credit in the bank at all. Another bad loss at Forest and the fans will turn en masse. ..that is the reason why he is not under any real pressure, the supporters in the stands will accept what is on offer!!! They do not mirror Foxestalk!! 3
Beachyboy Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 21 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: you know, everything that’s wrong about brendan can be summed up by his views on nacho. He’d rather have someone who’s always neat and tidy and never loses the ball than someone more erratic who produces goals and assists Surely Mendy would play more if that was the case, an Praet
hackneyfox Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 3 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: yeah and how many g & a should perez, barnes or vardy have? because i can bet it’s more Barnes and Vardy play a lot more games hence them having worse numbers. Iheanacho has screwed up two assists in two games and arguably should have been better placed for Vardy’s cross.
Dusty Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 Just now, sacreblueits442 said: ..that is the reason why he is not under any real pressure, the supporters in the stands will accept what is on offer!!! They do not mirror Foxestalk!! This could work vice versa tbf. Foxestalk doesn’t necessarily speak for the entire fanbase either. 2
volpeazzurro Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 15 minutes ago, Dusty said: For me, Rodgers’ biggest failing currently is his inability to get some confidence back in the side. We’re a completely different team when we’re confident. We move the ball quicker, more direct, press harder and higher, just all round better. But that isn't the Rodgers way! Think slow, deliberate, side to side and backwards 'domination' ... now we're talking, wonderful stuff 🤣 1
ian__marshall Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 (edited) Classic Brendan. 'Look at the at the season we won the Cup, we had to go away and pick up a win on a cold day in Stoke' Edited 7 January 2023 by ian__marshall
volpeazzurro Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 2 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: Barnes and Vardy play a lot more games hence them having worse numbers. Iheanacho has screwed up two assists in two games and arguably should have been better placed for Vardy’s cross. Yet still scored.
Beachyboy Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dusty said: This could work vice versa tbf. Foxestalk doesn’t necessarily speak for the entire fanbase either. That's just the traditional old school English way though keep quiet and say nothing, can't be seen to be disobedient. I never understood why Puel got so much stick tbh, Rogers is just a smooth talker but the football if anything is quite similar, an he's now made us less desirable to manage than we were under Puel. Edited 7 January 2023 by Beachyboy 1
Dusty Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 3 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said: But that isn't the Rodgers way! Think slow, deliberate, side to side and backwards 'domination' ... now we're talking, wonderful stuff 🤣 Don’t think that’s true tho, you even heard Kel in the post match interview day that Rodgers told them at half time that they need to move the ball quicker. I think that when they’re out on the pitch they just feel unmotivated. 1
whoareyaaa Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: Barnes and Vardy play a lot more games hence them having worse numbers. Iheanacho has screwed up two assists in two games and arguably should have been better placed for Vardy’s cross. You can't score every chance or get every assist right, he scores or assists more than others. Edited 7 January 2023 by whoareyaaa
sacreblueits442 Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 5 minutes ago, Dusty said: This could work vice versa tbf. Foxestalk doesn’t necessarily speak for the entire fanbase either. ...I thought that was what I implied!!! Polls on FT showing Rodgers at 90% to be sacked. There is no way that could be mirrored at the grounds. 2
hackneyfox Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 5 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said: Yet still scored. A goal very now and again isn’t good enough. He can be decent one game and dreadful the next. I’d sooner we sold and replaced. 1
5waller5 Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 2 minutes ago, Dusty said: Don’t think that’s true tho, you even heard Kel in the post match interview day that Rodgers told them at half time that they need to move the ball quicker. I think that when they’re out on the pitch they just feel unmotivated. “what were you told at 1/2 time”? ”To move it side to side quicker” It’s no wonder that they look so disinterested, and why it’s so dull to watch. 1
sacreblueits442 Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 3 minutes ago, Dusty said: I think that when they’re out on the pitch they just feel unmotivated. .. any reason for that!!! 1
Beachyboy Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 1 minute ago, sacreblueits442 said: .. any reason for that!!! I'd say possibly they aren't inspired by clapping. 1
hackneyfox Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 Just now, 5waller5 said: “what were you told at 1/2 time”? ”To move it side to side quicker” It’s no wonder that they look so disinterested, and why it’s so dull to watch. Going with the long ball clearly wasn’t working. There were times when a wide player was in acres of space and by the time we eventually hit the ball to them they were covered. When teams play deep like that most teams will try and move the ball from side to side to try and engineer a hole in the defence. 1
Dusty Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 2 minutes ago, 5waller5 said: “what were you told at 1/2 time”? ”To move it side to side quicker” It’s no wonder that they look so disinterested, and why it’s so dull to watch. Moving it quickly side to side is how you beat a low block, that’s football 101. Or did you think crossing towards their 3 centre backs was going to be more successful? 2 2
sacreblueits442 Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 11 minutes ago, Dusty said: Moving it quickly side to side is how you beat a low block, that’s football 101. Or did you think crossing towards their 3 centre backs was going to be more successful? .. but we do not do that, we are slow and ponderous!!! 1
Sunbury Fox Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 32 minutes ago, ian__marshall said: Classic Brendan. 'Look at the at the season we won the Cup, we had to go away and pick up a win on a cold day in Stoke' He actually said that?! How could he compare today's yawnathon with a comprehensive 4-0 win away at a Championship side?!
JimmyC74 Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 24 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: Going with the long ball clearly wasn’t working. There were times when a wide player was in acres of space and by the time we eventually hit the ball to them they were covered. When teams play deep like that most teams will try and move the ball from side to side to try and engineer a hole in the defence. Most of the side to side passes involved Cags, Vestergaard and Brunt and then back again. Tbf lack of creativity was part players failing to make runs and also inability to thread a pass forward. we lack players like Madders who see the opportunity and are willing / have the ability to make the pass.
ian__marshall Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 4 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said: He actually said that?! How could he compare today's yawnathon with a comprehensive 4-0 win away at a Championship side?! Yeah, I paraphrased but that's what he said on RL after the game. Almost as if it was an accomplishment for his CV, given the media narrative that success is defined by achieving a result at Stoke. 1
BKLFox Posted 7 January 2023 Posted 7 January 2023 41 minutes ago, Dusty said: Don’t think that’s true tho, you even heard Kel in the post match interview day that Rodgers told them at half time that they need to move the ball quicker. He says it every time Dusty it’s just that FT choose to ignore it, they have painted the picture and there’s no rubbing it out. 1 1
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