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Gresley Fox

Football pyramid and FA Cup

By Gresley Fox, in Leicester City Forum

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Torten

Torten

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4 hours ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

Just been checking this, and to my knowledge it's correct. Leicester, Aston Villa, Blackburn and Wolves are the only 4 teams to have won the top 3 divisions, League Cup and FA Cup. 

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West Ham have never won any league?? :blink:lol

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sishades

sishades

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1 hour ago, 420Hashish said:

We just need the League Two and National League trophies? Maybe the FA Vase or whatever it's called. Don't forget about the community shield

The community shield was won in 1971 with a 1-0 win over Liverpool at Filbert Street

Vlad the Fox

Vlad the Fox

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4 minutes ago, ceredigion said:

We've held that record since 1963 as to this day no other club has reached 3 finals without winning 1 of them.

 

I think there are 3 or 4 teams who have reached 2 finals and lost them both but there is no one club which has now inherited our title. Watford are one of them.

Yes just did a quick search and it’s queens park of scotland losing to blackburn in 1884 and 1885, birmingham in 1931 and 1956 and palace in 1990 and 2016, both to man u. 

blurryface

blurryface

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I'd love to see the u23s get to the final of the football league trophy one year.

 

i know its an odd concept having these academy sides in it but if they ever get to a final I am absolutely off to it 🥳🥳

 

I basically just want to go to wembley more and more now, Saturday was a drug.

Gresley Fox

Gresley Fox

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12 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

With Kasper, Vardy and Morgan, have any other players won the top 2 divisions and the FA Cup with the same club?

 

 

Andy King won League 1, Championship, prem with same club! 🏆🤔👍 That's impressive

tom27111

tom27111

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1 minute ago, Gresley Fox said:

Andy King won League 1, Championship, prem with same club! 🏆🤔👍 That's impressive

 

He's kind of what prompted me to ask the question. 

 

Leuven should have released him on a free so we could have signed him and put him on the bench on Saturday lol

ceredigion

ceredigion

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31 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

With Kasper, Vardy and Morgan, have any other players won the top 2 divisions and the FA Cup with the same club?

 

 

Liverpool under Bill Shankly won the 2nd Division title in 1961/62, the 1st Division title in 1963/64 and the FA Cup in 1964/65 with a much smaller squad back then. So players such as Ian St John, Ron Yates, Ian Callaghan will have done it. But it won't have happened often.

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tom27111

tom27111

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1 minute ago, ceredigion said:

Liverpool under Bill Shankly won the 2nd Division title in 1961/62, the 1st Division title in 1963/64 and the FA Cup in 1964/65 with a much smaller squad back then. So players such as Ian St John, Ron Yates, Ian Callaghan will have done it. But it won't have happened often.

 

Thank you.

 

I know Forest and Derby both came up and won the league, but not the Cup, Cloughie missed out on that.

 

Ipswich must have been close too. I think 2nd in the league and a Cup win.

 

All slightly before my time :thumbup:

ceredigion

ceredigion

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7 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

 

Thank you.

 

I know Forest and Derby both came up and won the league, but not the Cup, Cloughie missed out on that.

 

Ipswich must have been close too. I think 2nd in the league and a Cup win.

 

All slightly before my time :thumbup:

Some of it is a bit before my time too although I was around for all the Forest stuff under Cloughie.

 

You mention Ipswich Town. They won the 2nd Division title in 1960/61 and then won the 1st Division title the next season. I don't think that's been done before or since.Their manager was Sir Alf somebody or other. They didn't win the FA Cup until 1978 though so none of the same players were involved. Great club though and they were a real bogey side for us in the 70s and 80s.

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LanguedocFox

LanguedocFox

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Slightly off topic, but only slightly, so no apologies, but James Vardy Esq is the only player thus far who has played in all 13 rounds of the FA Cup from preliminaries to the Final. And I doubt that record will ever be matched.

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SemperEadem

SemperEadem

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16 minutes ago, LanguedocFox said:

Slightly off topic, but only slightly, so no apologies, but James Vardy Esq is the only player thus far who has played in all 13 rounds of the FA Cup from preliminaries to the Final. And I doubt that record will ever be matched.

Yeah thats safe

SouthStandUpperTier

SouthStandUpperTier

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21 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

Out of interest, does anyone know who now holds the record for most appearances in a final without lifting the trophy?

 

I'd imagine it's a shared record now? 

Queen's Park, Birmingham City, Crystal Palace and Watford (twice each).

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fuchsntf

fuchsntf

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8 hours ago, ceredigion said:

Liverpool under Bill Shankly won the 2nd Division title in 1961/62, the 1st Division title in 1963/64 and the FA Cup in 1964/65 with a much smaller squad back then. So players such as Ian St John, Ron Yates, Ian Callaghan will have done it. But it won't have happened often.

The squad Size was the same, Plus better chances then  for Reserves & Youth Team players to make a break through...

 

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Voll Blau

Voll Blau

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11 hours ago, TK95 said:

 

But would anything top the feeling of Saturday?

Being able to experience that again with mates and family who couldn't go on Saturday would be amazing.

 

For pure ecstasy nothing would top Saturday but I'd definitely enjoy the day more as I wouldn't be a complete nervous wreck for most of it.

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Guest worth_the_wait

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9 hours ago, sishades said:

The community shield was won in 1971 with a 1-0 win over Liverpool at Filbert Street

In the days when it was called The Charity Shield ... before everything had to be rebranded.

 

Actually - I still call it the Charity Shield, not the so-called "Community Shield".   But I'm old school.

 

in the same way I still call it The Football League (and not the so-called "EFL") - which I would've thought is a breach of terms anyway, as it's actually the English and Welsh Football League.

 

ceredigion

ceredigion

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1 hour ago, fuchsntf said:

The squad Size was the same, Plus better chances then  for Reserves & Youth Team players to make a break through...

 

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I think that rather proves my point. There are 24 players on that list. This season we have 36 players on our books, not including players who have left the club during the season. To go from 24 to 36 is a 50% increase and I'm sure there are clubs in the PL with larger squads than ours.

davieG

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I see the Chelsea team didn't bother to suit up for the final, not sure if anyone else has but I just got the impression they thought it was just another game to them.

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Hales

Hales

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11 minutes ago, davieG said:

I see the Chelsea team didn't bother to suit up for the final, not sure if anyone else has but I just got the impression they thought it was just another game to them.

Really disrespectful to the occasion 

fazzyfox

fazzyfox

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13 hours ago, Torten said:

West Ham have never won any league?? :blink:lol

No but to be fair they won the World Cup in '66, an impressive feat for a domestic side, as every cockney spiv tells you over and over and over......

fuchsntf

fuchsntf

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2 hours ago, ceredigion said:

I think that rather proves my point. There are 24 players on that list. This season we have 36 players on our books, not including players who have left the club during the season. To go from 24 to 36 is a 50% increase and I'm sure there are clubs in the PL with larger squads than ours.

I did also say "plus"....

Even back then there was the youth teams..und their names would also be on the books, & they were probably fasttracked more than today..

we Worked close & had exchange clubs like Mansfield,Northampton, Peterborough..und

I just shown the First team squad, Bit other Good players came through their Youth schemes...& they would of been also  on the books...

 

 

LanguedocFox

LanguedocFox

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1 hour ago, Hales said:

Really disrespectful to the occasion 

To be fair (probably against my inclination) I thought Chelski showed class hanging around for the presentation of the Cup. No-one would have blamed/missed them if they had just slunk away but they didn’t. And it must have hurt.

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