Leicestershire “Live”

[Voll Blau]

4 minutes ago, OntarioFox said:

There are ways to use advertising that A) aren't intrusive and B) actually have relevance to the local area.

 

You build it through social media channels and go from there once you have local businesses on-board. It's not rocket science, it's pretty much how newspapers with limited margins survived pre-internet.

 

I think people would have less problem with the Mercury's strategy if they actually advertised local businesses rather than how to sell your gold hoard to make your willy bigger.

Good luck finding an established journalist/journalists willing to risk everything to take that gamble and launch the kind of "free good up to date source of analysis and news" operation the previous poster was suggesting on the business model you're suggesting. If it was that easy/cheap to start up then loads would be doing it.

[UniFox21]

3 hours ago, Danny Clender said:

I think The Mercury also suffers because LCFC has chosen to leak all it's major news through FoxesTalk.

 

For instance; The stadium plans, Seagrave plans, Club finances, Club transfer policy, Tielemans contract situation, Maddison's hip injury and head turn, something just not right, Brendan leaving the club etc. 

 

FoxesTalk Live...now that's where the money is for true football journalism. 

Back pages full of Leicester chat, front pages full of the arguments from gen chat  

[tcrofts]

The 'sent message' headlines on the Facebook Post are really annoying. It's the same tripe all the time. Club sends club transfer message. Club sends player message

[UpTheLeagueFox]

I enjoy Jordan Blackwell's work, especially his 'talking points' after a game.

Always measured, criticism where necessary, he'll go onto much bigger and better things than the Merc.

[smudgerfox]

7 minutes ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

I enjoy Jordan Blackwell's work, especially his 'talking points' after a game.

Always measured, criticism where necessary, he'll go onto much bigger and better things than the Merc.

Yes i feel sorry for him really - strapped to a click bait conveyor belt and still managing to cover the real goings on at the club with authority and intelligence 

[Silver surfer 1]

22 hours ago, smudgerfox said:

I’m thinking about drawing up a list of the spurious “news items” on LCFC on the old Mercury site and making an official complaint.
 

Doubt they’ll do anything but would be good to let them know that the switch to click bait nonsense has been noticed and is causing great annoyance. 
 

The journalists are good - but what they’re asked to churn out is not. Anyone with me on the match for better coverage? 

 

I feel what you saying .  Our local news website is like a click bait on a porn site , looks trash .  But doubt they’ll listen , I’m sure Mercury is owned by some faceless Londoners that don’t give a monkeys about us midlanders all that they just want line their pockets sat in their Sussex house not caring about the joke the Mercury has become .

[SpacedX]

1 minute ago, Silver surfer 1 said:

I feel what you saying .  Our local news website is like a click bait on a porn site , looks trash .  

I thought Zenn-La was a knowledge based enlightened civilisation? 

[OntarioFox]

1 hour ago, Voll Blau said:

Good luck finding an established journalist/journalists willing to risk everything to take that gamble and launch the kind of "free good up to date source of analysis and news" operation the previous poster was suggesting on the business model you're suggesting. If it was that easy/cheap to start up then loads would be doing it.

There's the problem - the assumption you need to be an established local journalist to report on things that happen in the local area.

 

I do feel bad for the good reporters who have been chewed up and spat out, but if I was to run a news team I'd be targetting either those leaving school / uni, or eloquent local people who don't have a background in the industry and fancy a new challenge. Get a proof reader who actually knows how to read and hey presto - there's your new news outlet.

 

Things have changed. Maybe I'm over optimistic but I personally think it'd be pretty straightforward to set up a rival to the Mercury. Might look into it myself. 😄

Edited 4 November 2021 by OntarioFox

[Wymsey]

Some of the adverts are quite strange.

 

[Voll Blau]

8 minutes ago, OntarioFox said:

There's the problem - the assumption you need to be an established local journalist to report on things that happen in the local area.

 

I do feel bad for the good reporters who have been chewed up and spat out, but if I was to run a news team I'd be targetting either those leaving school / uni, or eloquent local people who don't have a background in the industry and fancy a new challenge. Get a proof reader who actually knows how to read and hey presto - there's your new news outlet.

 

Things have changed. Maybe I'm over optimistic but I personally think it'd be pretty straightforward to set up a rival to the Mercury. Might look into it myself. 😄

I think you're being very over optimistic there. As I say, if it was that straightforward then loads of established journalists would be doing this kind of thing already. The groups you describe as recruitment targets are exactly those being targeted by the established industry at the moment, but obviously the big groups can offer greater job security than anything a start-up could.

[Saxondale]

5 hours ago, Danny Clender said:

I think The Mercury also suffers because LCFC has chosen to leak all it's major news through FoxesTalk.

 

For instance; The stadium plans, Seagrave plans, Club finances, Club transfer policy, Tielemans contract situation, Maddison's hip injury and head turn, something just not right, Brendan leaving the club etc. 

 

FoxesTalk Live...now that's where the money is for true football journalism. 

Though a jocular comment, there is an element of truth in this. In the social media age, it’s difficult for local new reporters to be the first to break any news. In ye olde days, there would be people who had titbits of information leaked from individuals associated with the club, which they’d share with their mates at the pub. These days, that information can be round the world in seconds. The opportunities for local sports reporters to be able do deliver exclusive news and insight is extremely limited.

[Saxondale]

28 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Some of the adverts are quite strange.

 

That’s based on your viewing history Wymesy!

[Footballwipe]

I know we've had this debate numerous times before, but it really is a perfect storm for Leics Live.

 

From being cut back to the bare bones, the lack of enthusiasm in paying for news and the rise in clickbait, there's also the fact that with the stature of the club now they're just... irrelevant.

 

You can get Leicester news from the Athletic's bespoke reporter, people like John Percy cover multiple clubs but have their finger on the pulse and links with the club. You can get news, rumours, information and updates from the majority of mainstream outlets now.  That's not even to mention the club's own media arm, which can churn out new information, features and videos with more horsepower than Leics Live could possible dream.

 

I'd almost use the expansion stuff as a perfect example of this. The club had released pictures of the stadium, a video flythrough, a small section of the website dedicated to all the information. By the time Leics Live had their article out, most of us had already consumed this content, or read it on Sky, or on any number of football websites. LL could add nothing new to this that we wouldn't have already read elsewhere.

 

Essentially they're just not necessary anymore and as such need to turn into the type of sites we dislike in order to survive. Nature of the beast.

[when_you're_smiling]

2 hours ago, Footballwipe said:

I know we've had this debate numerous times before, but it really is a perfect storm for Leics Live.

 

From being cut back to the bare bones, the lack of enthusiasm in paying for news and the rise in clickbait, there's also the fact that with the stature of the club now they're just... irrelevant.

 

You can get Leicester news from the Athletic's bespoke reporter, people like John Percy cover multiple clubs but have their finger on the pulse and links with the club. You can get news, rumours, information and updates from the majority of mainstream outlets now.  That's not even to mention the club's own media arm, which can churn out new information, features and videos with more horsepower than Leics Live could possible dream.

 

I'd almost use the expansion stuff as a perfect example of this. The club had released pictures of the stadium, a video flythrough, a small section of the website dedicated to all the information. By the time Leics Live had their article out, most of us had already consumed this content, or read it on Sky, or on any number of football websites. LL could add nothing new to this that we wouldn't have already read elsewhere.

 

Essentially they're just not necessary anymore and as such need to turn into the type of sites we dislike in order to survive. Nature of the beast.

No, that’s exactly why good journalists are needed. To ask the difficult questions and not just toe the club line.

 

Percy and those national journalists do a good job on player news yes, but for a host of clubs at the same time and we’re lucky to be one of the higher profile clubs at the minute so get more attention. Drop down and the gap between what the fans know about the club would become even wider. Who’s going to report on the stuff that’s going to get you less clicks but as fans help protect our interest, all our annoyance at the way the Moscow 25 were treated, the current issues with the ticket office, etc?

 

To be fair it’s a failure of the UK’s collective sports media as a whole. In America for example journalists are allowed to just sit in the locker room with players after games and ask them anything. Here UK media have allowed the clubs too much power and are too scared to upset them. So, over a long period of time it’s saturated down to them being fed cliched sound bites and media conferences from a distance, including behind the scenes agreements about when and where to run stories on half a sentence that can get as many clicks as possible.

 

 

[sacreblueits442]

....OPA not getting any love!!!

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/new-bbc-football-commentator-having-6159766?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

[davieG]

Is this a response to this thread or just a coincidence?

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/journalism-matters-week-leicester-leicestershire-6165664

 

Journalism Matters in Leicestershire - here's how we're making a difference
We couldn't do any of this without you - our readers

ByLinda Steelyard
19:10, 5 NOV 2021

The team at LeicestershireLive and the Leicester Mercury strives every day of the year to make a difference to the lives of the people who live and work in our city and county.

 

From challenging the government and local councils on decisions which impact on our readers' lives, to being a voice for those in our society in desperate need of an advocate, our team of dedicated and skilled reporters and editors are there for you.

 

As part of Journalism Matters week, which throws a spotlight on the power of news media titles to make a change in their communities, we are highlighting just some of the occasions upon which we have helped to make a difference.

 

An area in which this has been especially clear in recent months is our coverage of coronavirus. We were, and remain, on the frontline of providing readers with the latest, accurate information on the pandemic across our area.

 

Confusion reigned supreme when the government refused to give straight answers about its decision to keep parts of Leicestershire in lockdown when the rest of the country was enjoying a measure of freedom. It proved extremely difficult to pin government officials down to answer our - and our readers' - questions But while working hard in the background to secure an interview, we made sure readers were kept up-to-date with what we did know, presenting Whitehall's obfuscations in a clear and accessible manner and making the most of our local experts and politicians - who freely admitted they too were being kept in the dark by officials at Whitehall.

 

We challenged ministers to provide vital information about Covid in Leicester that it had kept - for no known good reason - under wraps. We asked the government to release local track and trace figures so residents could understand why restrictions remained in our area, took Nadine Dorries to task over the ridiculous lack of communication with the people of Leicestershire and then provided readers with a fact check of her answers, for example.

 

We changed the widely-held and formerly accurate belief that people aged over 65 needed to wait for an invitation for their GP before being able to get a vaccine appointment, helping to take the brakes off the vaccine rollout for some of the most vulnerable people in our society. We helped readers get their Covid jabs as quickly and easily as possible by providing information on where they could get a vaccination almost immediately, without an appointment. And we took people behind the scenes at a Covid vaccination clinic, at a time when 'getting the jab' was a new concept, to help allay 'fear of the unknown'.

 

We fought, and continue to fight, misinformation about the pandemic, addressing the concerns of the many local people who contact us to ask whether they need to pay attention to leaflets that have been put through their doors. That advice has been tailored to address different communities, including, for example, the specific concerns of Leicestershire's large Islamic population.

 

We have held regular Facebook Lives and Q&A sessions with key Covid officials in the city and county, during which we have put to them readers' questions about the pandemic that might otherwise have gone unanswered.

And when the re-opening of schools neared, a political battle arose in Leicestershire. We ensured readers, and parents and carers in particular, stayed on top of the changing picture at an incredibly confusing and frustrating time.

Coronavirus is just one topic, of course. We keep readers abreast of countless other local issues that affect them and their loved ones, such as asking why council tax is going up, getting answers when bins are not emptied, taking companies to task when they fail people in Leicestershire - a nursery which was looking after a child who escaped, a care home which had inadequately-trained staff and a pharmacy which left a man without heart medication are among the latest examples.

 

We've challenged councils on decisions and orders which readers feel are unfair, such as the story of a man who was told to clean up his car on his own property by his local authority, helped a woman fight for her disabled siblings move to their new home in Leicestershire, helped fuel local fund-raising initiatives for causes close to our readers' hearts, shared vitally important stories on how routine medical checks could save your life, looked into the lives of people who 'live differently', such as the moving and uplifting tale of a male couple and their children and highlighted issues faced by disabled people and their families in our communities, from unwanted intervention in the care of austistic children, to heartbreaking accessibility issues.

 

We asked questions about a SEND student's transport issues which prevented him getting to school, helped a woman get her regularly-flooding council property repaired and obtained answers for the distraught family of a 73-year-old who had a stroke in his retirement flat 'and no one noticed.

 

We aren't just here for when things go wrong, though. We love to shout about the most inspiring people in our communities - those people whose good deeds and successes might otherwise go unrecognised, and whose stories lead others to also do good.

 

We've praised life-savers, highlighted bravery and celebrated people who are fighting hard to stay positive in extremely challenging circumstances.

 

But we couldn't do any of this without you, our readers.

The Leicester Mercury has been on your side, keeping you informed and updated, for nearly a century and a half ago. Here's to the next 150 years.

[sacreblueits442]

....a bit of an over reaction, and I am sure they are aware of the comments on FT!!!

All their backslapping......it is the least you would expect from a local paper and they need to up their quality of media interaction and the over reliance of advertisement which dominate their web site.

  Instead of "bigging themselves up", there is obviously an issue which needs to be addressed, you just get the impression that they will not be looking at what they are doing which is putting people off, being the first point of call in relation to local news, put look to pacify the people who challenge how they go about doing it.

[Danizen]

 

As if to prove the point of this thread 

[Gamble92]

On 04/11/2021 at 12:09, UpTheLeagueFox said:

I enjoy Jordan Blackwell's work, especially his 'talking points' after a game.

Always measured, criticism where necessary, he'll go onto much bigger and better things than the Merc.

What, like the Syston Times?

[fuchsntf]

13 hours ago, davieG said:

Is this a response to this thread or just a coincidence?

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/journalism-matters-week-leicester-leicestershire-6165664

 

Journalism Matters in Leicestershire - here's how we're making a difference
We couldn't do any of this without you - our readers

ByLinda Steelyard
19:10, 5 NOV 2021

The team at LeicestershireLive and the Leicester Mercury strives every day of the year to make a difference to the lives of the people who live and work in our city and county.

 

From challenging the government and local councils on decisions which impact on our readers' lives, to being a voice for those in our society in desperate need of an advocate, our team of dedicated and skilled reporters and editors are there for you.

 

As part of Journalism Matters week, which throws a spotlight on the power of news media titles to make a change in their communities, we are highlighting just some of the occasions upon which we have helped to make a difference.

 

An area in which this has been especially clear in recent months is our coverage of coronavirus. We were, and remain, on the frontline of providing readers with the latest, accurate information on the pandemic across our area.

 

Confusion reigned supreme when the government refused to give straight answers about its decision to keep parts of Leicestershire in lockdown when the rest of the country was enjoying a measure of freedom. It proved extremely difficult to pin government officials down to answer our - and our readers' - questions But while working hard in the background to secure an interview, we made sure readers were kept up-to-date with what we did know, presenting Whitehall's obfuscations in a clear and accessible manner and making the most of our local experts and politicians - who freely admitted they too were being kept in the dark by officials at Whitehall.

 

We challenged ministers to provide vital information about Covid in Leicester that it had kept - for no known good reason - under wraps. We asked the government to release local track and trace figures so residents could understand why restrictions remained in our area, took Nadine Dorries to task over the ridiculous lack of communication with the people of Leicestershire and then provided readers with a fact check of her answers, for example.

 

We changed the widely-held and formerly accurate belief that people aged over 65 needed to wait for an invitation for their GP before being able to get a vaccine appointment, helping to take the brakes off the vaccine rollout for some of the most vulnerable people in our society. We helped readers get their Covid jabs as quickly and easily as possible by providing information on where they could get a vaccination almost immediately, without an appointment. And we took people behind the scenes at a Covid vaccination clinic, at a time when 'getting the jab' was a new concept, to help allay 'fear of the unknown'.

 

We fought, and continue to fight, misinformation about the pandemic, addressing the concerns of the many local people who contact us to ask whether they need to pay attention to leaflets that have been put through their doors. That advice has been tailored to address different communities, including, for example, the specific concerns of Leicestershire's large Islamic population.

 

We have held regular Facebook Lives and Q&A sessions with key Covid officials in the city and county, during which we have put to them readers' questions about the pandemic that might otherwise have gone unanswered.

And when the re-opening of schools neared, a political battle arose in Leicestershire. We ensured readers, and parents and carers in particular, stayed on top of the changing picture at an incredibly confusing and frustrating time.

Coronavirus is just one topic, of course. We keep readers abreast of countless other local issues that affect them and their loved ones, such as asking why council tax is going up, getting answers when bins are not emptied, taking companies to task when they fail people in Leicestershire - a nursery which was looking after a child who escaped, a care home which had inadequately-trained staff and a pharmacy which left a man without heart medication are among the latest examples.

 

We've challenged councils on decisions and orders which readers feel are unfair, such as the story of a man who was told to clean up his car on his own property by his local authority, helped a woman fight for her disabled siblings move to their new home in Leicestershire, helped fuel local fund-raising initiatives for causes close to our readers' hearts, shared vitally important stories on how routine medical checks could save your life, looked into the lives of people who 'live differently', such as the moving and uplifting tale of a male couple and their children and highlighted issues faced by disabled people and their families in our communities, from unwanted intervention in the care of austistic children, to heartbreaking accessibility issues.

 

We asked questions about a SEND student's transport issues which prevented him getting to school, helped a woman get her regularly-flooding council property repaired and obtained answers for the distraught family of a 73-year-old who had a stroke in his retirement flat 'and no one noticed.

 

We aren't just here for when things go wrong, though. We love to shout about the most inspiring people in our communities - those people whose good deeds and successes might otherwise go unrecognised, and whose stories lead others to also do good.

 

We've praised life-savers, highlighted bravery and celebrated people who are fighting hard to stay positive in extremely challenging circumstances.

 

But we couldn't do any of this without you, our readers.

The Leicester Mercury has been on your side, keeping you informed and updated, for nearly a century and a half ago. Here's to the next 150 years.

But your crap at supporting our local clubs - write absolute imature trash - have sold your souls in all topics by

Creating spread platforms based on

Trash-clickbait articles.

Instead of reporting conciensiously on

NEWS & reports you try and create a 

Mish-mash of utter childish trash..

It's like selling your soul, but even the Devil knows it's weird and can't fly..

 

Thats what I would like to reply to the 

Numbnuts of spaced out naverna- land