Should Mendy stay?

[BenTheFox]

I'm not really sure why this question is being asked. He's ok, but he's very limited. He's not a a sensational tackler, he doesn't play defence splitting passes and he doesn't offer any goal threat. I know Soumare stunk the place out yesterday but I strongly believe that he has the raw materials to be a much better player than Mendy. 

[dylanlegend]

What’s the obsession with fringe players. They are assessed every day in training he’s obviously not good enough 

[NasPb]

4 minutes ago, dylanlegend said:

What’s the obsession with fringe players. They are assessed every day in training he’s obviously not good enough 

Mendys a perfectly fine backup for ndidi imo. Miles better than choudhury who's a scare on the ball and is solid all around. Problem is we're shooting ourselves in the foot because os Rodgerss strange decisions, including benko but not mendy, not selling choudhoury, getting rid of praet etc. We're in this massive rut bc of things like this among others 

[dylanlegend]

10 minutes ago, NasPb said:

Mendys a perfectly fine backup for ndidi imo. Miles better than choudhury who's a scare on the ball and is solid all around. Problem is we're shooting ourselves in the foot because os Rodgerss strange decisions, including benko but not mendy, not selling choudhoury, getting rid of praet etc. We're in this massive rut bc of things like this among others 

As fans we just see things in terms of how good a player is. For the club as a business it makes more sense to not pay Praet when we have a player like Hamza on 3 times less money. Also Praet may have been causing issues behind closed doors as he wanted to play more 

[hejammy]

14 minutes ago, NasPb said:

Mendys a perfectly fine backup for ndidi imo. Miles better than choudhury who's a scare on the ball and is solid all around. Problem is we're shooting ourselves in the foot because os Rodgerss strange decisions, including benko but not mendy, not selling choudhoury, getting rid of praet etc. We're in this massive rut bc of things like this among others 

How is not being able to sell Choudhury Rodgers fault? Praet wanted to leave! Flipping heck I reckon people might start blaming BR if it  starts snowing for causing all the accidents on the road. 

[moore_94]

20 minutes ago, NasPb said:

Mendys a perfectly fine backup for ndidi imo. Miles better than choudhury who's a scare on the ball and is solid all around. Problem is we're shooting ourselves in the foot because os Rodgerss strange decisions, including benko but not mendy, not selling choudhoury, getting rid of praet etc. We're in this massive rut bc of things like this among others 

Including Benkovic but not Mendy made sense at the time as at the time we had to register the squad Mendy could very well have been leaving, although his move to Galatasaray broke down in the end it made sense to at least include a player that everyone thought would actually be at the club rather than one that wasn't far off leaving.

 

We tried to get rid of Choudhury but Newcastle pulled out, you can't sell a player if there is no interest.

 

Praet wanted to leave and didn't want to stay as a squad player here.

[NasPb]

fair point on hamza, the rest stands though

56 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Including Benkovic but not Mendy made sense at the time as at the time we had to register the squad Mendy could very well have been leaving, although his move to Galatasaray broke down in the end it made sense to at least include a player that everyone thought would actually be at the club rather than one that wasn't far off leaving.

 

We tried to get rid of Choudhury but Newcastle pulled out, you can't sell a player if there is no interest.

 

Praet wanted to leave and didn't want to stay as a squad player here.

 

[turlo]

1 hour ago, dylanlegend said:

What’s the obsession with fringe players. They are assessed every day in training he’s obviously not good enough 

Usually another reason to slag Rodgers off. 

[coolhandfox]

If Mendy is the answer, I don't know what the question is......

[tickler28]

On 21/11/2021 at 09:16, Fox92 said:

Agreed.

I used to be think Vieira and Gerrard were midfielders that could do everything (win the ball back, drive forward, score all types of goals, take set pieces, strong, decent in the air) and I think Kante has that too. 

We haven't got a midfielder like it and I watch Kante and can't believe he actually played for us.

 

In terms of Mendy, our investment has been poor this summer just gone. I looked at the pitch yesterday and not one new signing gave me confidence they could take this game and change it for us.

Soumare was the only new signing on the pitch?@?!?

[Sly]

57 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

If Mendy is the answer, I don't know what the question is......

How could decrease our overall team height and make our marking from corners less effective?  

[Fox92]

2 hours ago, tickler28 said:

Soumare was the only new signing on the pitch?@?!?

Lookman.

[tickler28]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

Lookman.

He was a dam sight better than Barnes who was next to useless in a starting formation and setup that was complete tactical suicide by Brendan....was never in a million years a match to play wingers....even a fool could have told you that

[Fox92]

3 hours ago, tickler28 said:

He was a dam sight better than Barnes who was next to useless in a starting formation and setup that was complete tactical suicide by Brendan....was never in a million years a match to play wingers....even a fool could have told you that

I'm not saying he wasn't, I just don't think investment this summer has improved the team.

 

You're arguing with yourself.

[Guest Col city fan]

On 21/11/2021 at 20:44, Dan LCFC said:

Soumare was awful but being better than that garbage shouldn't be the barometer. The reality with Mendy is he's not really very good. He's neat enough and he keeps the ball. I don't really see what he offers beyond making a few 10 yard passes. He's not very strong, he's not got any real pace, our record with him in the side last season was poor - the Brighton cup game was a good example of what I mean, he looked a bit out of his depth frankly.

 

I'm with Deano on Mendy I think he's miles off the level needed - though Soumare has been disappointing as well.

I agree, I’m no big fan of Mendy and never have been. But I can’t understand this willingness to not play Mendy, such that he wants to sod off, whilst relying on Soumare who is literally no better?

[tickler28]

3 hours ago, Fox92 said:

I'm not saying he wasn't, I just don't think investment this summer has improved the team.

 

You're arguing with yourself.

Yeah I agree with that....I read a lot of people on here and on FB saying how we have this incredible squad and should be doing better. Love my club to bits but don't see it. Not saying we're bad but think there are to many people deluded that we have this amazing squad....no better than lots of other teams if you ask me

[moore_94]

6 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

I agree, I’m no big fan of Mendy and never have been. But I can’t understand this willingness to not play Mendy, such that he wants to sod off, whilst relying on Soumare who is literally no better?

We can't use Mendy even if we wanted to because he isn't registered, and it was the right idea at the time not to register him

 

Now he wants off we shouldn't be going back to him saying "no please stay" just for him to get dropped after a couple of months again

 

Just let the bloke go and enjoy the rest of his career

Edited 22 November 2021 by moore_94

[Guest Col city fan]

5 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

We can't use Mendy even if we wanted to because he isn't registered, and it was the right idea at the time not to register him

 

Now he wants off we shouldn't be going back to him saying "no please stay" just for him to get dropped after a couple of months again

 

Just let the bloke go and enjoy the rest of his career

Point remains.. don’t register Mendy but register Soumare… why? The latter is no improvement 

[moore_94]

8 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Point remains.. don’t register Mendy but register Soumare… why? The latter is no improvement 

Don't register the guy who looked to be leaving but register the guy we just bought for £20m... now I know it might be hard to understand but those 2 reasons would be pretty obvious as to why.

 

Also lets not forget that Rodgers even told us not to expect great things from Soumare straight away because he will still be getting used to the pace of Prem football this season, yes some players come in and play well from the start but plenty of others need a season to get used to it.

 

But lets give up on the guy we just paid £20m for and has only played the equivalent of about 10 games for us for the guy who STILL struggles to hold down a place in the squad after 5+ years.

Edited 22 November 2021 by moore_94

[Guest Col city fan]

6 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

Don't register the guy who looked to be leaving but register the guy we just bought for £20m... now I know it might be hard to understand but those 2 reasons would be pretty obvious as to why.

 

Also lets not forget that Rodgers even told us not to expect great things from Soumare straight away because he will still be getting used to the pace of Prem football this season, yes some players come in and play well from the start but plenty of others need a season to get used to it.

There’s more to it than that isn’t there? Mendy was ‘leaving’ because he wasn’t being played (fair enough), whilst we go out and spend 20 mill on a player who does get played, but who looks no improvement over Mendy?

If we’d have spent more money on a player clearly better than Mendy, then fine. I get it. But Soumare on Saturday looked absolutely awful and just as bad as anything we’ve ever seen from Mendy.

‘The only conclusion I can make is the age difference. Soumare younger so can improve. I hope he does because he don’t half need to

[Tommy Fresh]

Soumare away in Moscow was superb, they aren't overly comparable but you'd struggle to see Mendy put in a better performance than Soumare did that day. 

[Dan]

On 22/11/2021 at 21:40, Col city fan said:

I agree, I’m no big fan of Mendy and never have been. But I can’t understand this willingness to not play Mendy, such that he wants to sod off, whilst relying on Soumare who is literally no better?

Soumare is better than Mendy. I've not been overly impressed yet, but I'm prepared to give him more time - we're a dysfunctional side in general, it isn't going to get the best from him. Mendy is proven to not be good enough, Soumare isn't yet.

 

Although I do think there should be a bit more talk about the fact we've essentially given Praet away after paying good money to do it again for Soumare - now there is your debate, is he better than Praet? Early days, I'd have to say not.

[trabuch]

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Edited 24 November 2021 by trabuch

[trabuch]

Just now, trabuch said:

Praet. Why are all our best back up players being sent away? Someone in another thread said "It's the player's faults, if the system isn't working they need to adapt during the game". I have a strong suspicion that if they did "adapt" during the game, they would be dropped and then shipped out pretty sharpish. 

 

[The_77]

On 22/11/2021 at 16:52, Col city fan said:

Point remains.. don’t register Mendy but register Soumare… why? The latter is no improvement 

This is one of the worst threads in FT history.