Project Reset

[Dahnsouff]

7 hours ago, LFox99 said:

Nah

This is very clearly aimed at Youri, potentially Cags.

If you've stated your desire to leave to go and play CL football elsewhere/ not committed yourself to Leicester because you think you can play at a higher level elsewhere but then go utterly invisible when it matters most it's Brendan's right to remind them that if they are what they think they are, they would be putting in 110% world class performances every game, every week, no matter the circumstances off the pitch and not just when it suits them. That's what makes a world class player/ champions league-level player, the ability to at least put in 9/10 performances consistently.

Bizarrely, I don`t think Brendan's statement has anything to do with Youri. Youri has been quite clear about his position, there is no mystery. Others who have dropped off a cliff, like Cags, like Wilf. are more those in the crosshairs I think.

[smudgerfox]

I don’t think a big clear out is easy. You can end up losing the players other clubs want and by extension the players we want to keep. And stuck with the players no one else wants

[shiv]

1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

Bizarrely, I don`t think Brendan's statement has anything to do with Youri. Youri has been quite clear about his position, there is no mystery. Others who have dropped off a cliff, like Cags, like Wilf. are more those in the crosshairs I think.

He specifically mentioned Wilf and JJ having a good work rate in his post match interview and said they played well.

 

So to me, that suggests he’s calling out at least another midfielder and defender. With midfielders, he has been complimentary to Madders & Wilf in recent weeks. The fact he made Youri captain and hauled him off 65 mins in shows he wasn’t happy. And with defenders, he has previously praised Amartey and Thomas so I think that one is fairly obviously Cags.

[Focks]

YT, Madders and Fofana will be the only 3 in demand.  The rest we'll end up keeping

[Supergray22]

Moving forward and sticking to he strategy. I feel like quoting from Rudyard kiplings ‘if’ here. 
 

On Brendan - someone needs to sit down with him and explain the valid concerns from defending (particularly set pieces) to substitutions formation and personnel. This has to come from the board. If they can agree a plan to move forward that all are happy with move forwards otherwise transistion to a new manager. 
On the playing front learn from mistakes in respect of deviations from strategy and look to bring in more physicality and character (doesn’t necessarily mean aged warhorses). Right wing/ right side /centre back CM and improvements where we likely to move players on or lose players.

Off the pitch look at how we can improve back room staff. Medical, sports science, scouting and particularly specialist coaching such as defending. Let’s get the most out of new facilities and start digging. 

[sacreblueits442]

6 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

Who’s going to pay 30m for cags? Only English clubs would pay that sort of fee and I can’t see anyone wanting him now. 

 

15m tops from a European team. No way an elite club goes near him 

.. ahem...Man. United!!!

£75m....thank you, have a nice day!

[sacreblueits442]

2 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Bizarrely, I don`t think Brendan's statement has anything to do with Youri. Youri has been quite clear about his position, there is no mystery. Others who have dropped off a cliff, like Cags, like Wilf. are more those in the crosshairs I think.

..as I said previously, all tainted with the same brush!!!

[turlo]

6 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

Who’s going to pay 30m for cags? Only English clubs would pay that sort of fee and I can’t see anyone wanting him now. 

 

15m tops from a European team. No way an elite club goes near him 

Cags is a player who we've missed the window on getting a big fee for. He's been awful since the FA Cup Final, including a shocker at the Euro's. Saying that we couldn't really shift him last summer after Fofana got injured.

[SheppyFox]

This could well be the beginning of the end of our upward trajectory. Sideways for a while mid table I think.

[5waller5]

12 hours ago, smudgerfox said:

Is the best way to organise an end-of-season clear out of players you no longer rate, to announce it just beyond the halfway point in an ongoing season?
 

Players you don’t want , probably know who they are and have no incentive to play well for you any longer. Some of them will have mates in  the players you want to keep group, who will also feel fed up on their behalf. The wanted will also sense a period of upheaval and possibly slow transformation which might convince them it might be time to take up that lucrative deal they were offered elsewhere but turned down because LCFC seemed a club intent on progressing. 
 

Clubs eyeing up our best players will know we need to raise funds for new players and will drive down fees or hold up deals until the last possible moment leaving little time to bring in replacements. Signings will hold off signing until they have a better idea who their teammates are likely to be. 

Nope, and it’s reminiscent of the only really big down turn in Fergie’s tenure at ManUtd…. When he announced his retirement mid season. He even reversed the decision to arrest the decline (I seem to remember?)

[smudgerfox]

12 hours ago, LFox99 said:

Outgoings:

close to guaranteed:

- Youri: 40m+, I doubt the club would be willing to let him go for much less than we bought him for.
- Cags: 30m, turn a decent profit and get rid of a player who clearly isn't committed to us anymore
- Praet: 15m, Torino have an obligation to buy iirc
- Perez: 10m+, honestly I'd take anything over 10m to get rid of him, just can't provide us with anything special

likely:

- Mendy: 5m, take anything we can get for him, he doesn't want to be here anymore, stated that publicly 
- Bertrand: what's the point with him? He's got 1 year left on his contract, just rip it up and pay him off or loan him out and recoup some of the wages.

depends on the situation:

- Vestergaard: 5m? Depends if we could find some Bundesliga club or another Premier League club to pawn him off to. No point in holding onto him as a squad option, waste of space.
- Hamza: 5-10m, Obviously a local lad who's loyal to the club. Depends on how well he does until the end of the season with the chances he gets. At the end of the day he's never going to be a starter.

All in all we've got the potential to recoup close to 90-100m this upcoming summer with sales.

Incomings:

- Lookman: 15m, make him permanent, looks to be a solid squad player, basically what we always wished Perez was.
- 2 CBs at least, one experienced head e.g Tarkowski, one Fofana profile defender, young, dynamic etc. e.g Todibo, Schlotterbeck
- 1 LB: We can't embark on yet another season with just one natural LB in our squad.
- 1 RW: The usual, for the love of god can we get a left-footed right sided player. 
- 1 #10 cover: Self-explanatory, we don't have anyone to play in place of Madders should he be unavailable
- 1 #8: With just KDH and Soumaré we'd need one more CM in the squad
- This last point is entirely dependent on outgoings, but we'd need cover for Ndidi should we get rid of Hamza and Mendy and Ndidi be unavailable.

All in all this could cost us upwards of what we make through sales so our owners would have to splash out another 30-40m potentially

 

While I think you meant to disagree with me - you end up proving my point. Some  of your valuations are in Fantasy land. You seem to assume there’s a bottomless pit of money for tearing up contracts and selling at a huge loss. And the cost of bringing in seven new players of the standard we require is likely to be well over £200m. It may be what we need in an ideal world but the current world is far from ideal. 

[erlee]

maybe they 'll even take the Manager as well.... (at least he is cheap & appears promising)

 

 

[Shane]

Squad for next season

 

GK: Schmeichel, Ward, Jakupovic

RB: New RB, Ricardo

CB: Fofana, New CB, New CB, Evans, Brunt

LB: Justin, Thomas

DM: Ndidi, Soumare

CM: KDH, Braybrooke, Ewing

CAM: Maddison, Wanya Marcal

RW: New RW, Albrighton

LW: Barnes, Alves

ST: Vardy, Daka, Iheanacho

 

Vestergaard & Bertrand demoted to the u23s (nobody will buy them)

Out: Castagne, Amartey (free), Soyuncu, Choudhury (loan), Mendy, Tielemans, Praet, Perez

[fazzyfox]

Unless it was perhaps a "prove me wrong" call to some of them, a wake up call, but I think there's a lot of truth in it, do the likes of Soyuncu, Tielemans, Ndidi, Barnes and others look like they're striving to excel in everything they do and continue improving or look more like they're splashing around trying to stay afloat in games yet due to the injury situation know they can be selected week in week out regardless.

[coolhandfox]

Love how people go no one will want Souyunc his been rubbish for 12 months.

 

Youri had been rubbish at Monaco, we wanted him. 

 

 

Team will think they can get him at a good price and can find a way of getting a back on form.

[Leicesterpool]

In order for a full revamp then does the manager come into that aswell. I mean can anyone see Rodgers after three years with the same squad being able to bring a fresh new squad or does this need a new manager?

Edited 9 February 2022 by Leicesterpool

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

2 hours ago, Leicesterpool said:

In order for a full revamp then does the manager come into that aswell. I mean can anyone see Rodgers after three years with the same squad being able to bring a fresh new squad or does this need a new manager?

 

2 hours ago, Shane said:

Squad for next season

 

GK: Schmeichel, Ward, Jakupovic

RB: New RB, Ricardo

CB: Fofana, New CB, New CB, Evans, Brunt

LB: Justin, Thomas

DM: Ndidi, Soumare

CM: KDH, Braybrooke, Ewing

CAM: Maddison, Wanya Marcal

RW: New RW, Albrighton

LW: Barnes, Alves

ST: Vardy, Daka, Iheanacho

 

Vestergaard & Bertrand demoted to the u23s (nobody will buy them)

Out: Castagne, Amartey (free), Soyuncu, Choudhury (loan), Mendy, Tielemans, Praet, Perez

I think unless the wheels completely come off, Rodgers is staying. This season isn't a great launching point for him to get a better club, and there are enough variables -- injuries, COVID etc. -- to cut him some slack after two top 5 finishes, and FA Cup and Community Shield.

 

I like your squad @Shane, but think 1) Nacho is gone after this season. We can get money for him and Rodgers doesn't think he fits; 2) I expect Lookman to sign permanently, and possibly Maswanhise to be given a look at. 3) Some of the youngsters -- Braybooke, especially -- probably need a loan next year, but some won't get it because they are just too young -- again Braybooke. 4) I would love for us to have a pre-contract for Tarkowski ASAP.

 

I think Vestergaard will go if we get the two CB's even if it's a face-saving move to a team with European football in Denmark or some other small country in Europe. Betrand is out for the season, so won't be shifted.

[dorsetboy]

On 08/02/2022 at 21:58, coolhandfox said:

Release 

oh sorry for the grammar i mean sell for not much value compared to the better players 

 

lets be honest we will struggle to get two packets of salt and vinegar and a bottle of pepsi for vestergaard and bertrand 

[smudgerfox]

On 08/02/2022 at 22:56, LFox99 said:

Outgoings:

close to guaranteed:

- Youri: 40m+, I doubt the club would be willing to let him go for much less than we bought him 

 

already reports of a fee of £35m being enough. If there’s competition to sign him that will be reflected in his terms not our fee now the world knows we’re selling him.

 

After 24 hours the tip line of your sums  is looking way out 
 

 

[Dahnsouff]

Interesting take on Tifo I saw was that Nacho could be the a replacement for Firmino at Liverpool, bit of a stretch or not?

[LFox99]

4 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

 

Should probably edit my original post, those values are all in Euros 

[l444ry]

There is clearly a need to improve the squad as the last two transfer windows have been a disaster. However, this reset has a sense of a Brendan "This mess is not my fault Guv"  about it. 

[filbertway]

10 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Interesting take on Tifo I saw was that Nacho could be the a replacement for Firmino at Liverpool, bit of a stretch or not?

 they clearly haven't been watching our Nacho if so. They seem like polar opposites, Bobby has exceptional feet and link up play but can't finish. Nacho's first touch could be good or it could more likely end up going out for a throw in, but give him half a chance he'll more often than not stick it away.

[Dahnsouff]

Just now, filbertway said:

 they clearly haven't been watching our Nacho if so. They seem like polar opposites, Bobby has exceptional feet and link up play but can't finish. Nacho's first touch could be good or it could more likely end up going out for a throw in, but give him half a chance he'll more often than not stick it away.

 I swear Nacho is one of the most enigmatic players to ever play for us, he has a surplus of skill, but a seeming deficit of interest.

[CrispinLA in Texas]

15 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Interesting take on Tifo I saw was that Nacho could be the a replacement for Firmino at Liverpool, bit of a stretch or not?

Interesting Klopp rates Iheanacho more than Brendan.....at least Iheanacho would get treated better by Klopp