Popular Post Vacamion Posted 20 October 2022 Popular Post Posted 20 October 2022 2 hours ago, Fazzer 7 said: Just imagine how boring it will be with Sir Keith at the dispatch box. PMQ’s will be like the lords with back benchers nodding off. Angela Merkel was widely regarded as unshowy, and at best, a merely competent speechmaker and debater, but she combined this lack of the spectacular with dour competence and endurance, and as a result she didn't balls up the job and she lasted and lasted and left the joint in better condition than she found it. I think most of the UK would like politics here to revert to being quite boring again. 6 2
Wymsey Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 To be quite honest, it started terribly for her in the first place.
Foxdiamond Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 14 minutes ago, RoboFox said: RIP to the authors of this garbage which was due out December 8th. Time to add another chapter? Out of the blue, into the poo. Should be able to burn the unsold copies to solve the energy problem
Sly Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 10 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Sunak should get the 130 at least that he got last time that leaves 230 max to be fought over unlikely that three get over 100 and feasible that there will be mass scrambling Monday lunchtime as some withdraw and their support for candidates and those votes are ire allocated to ensure sunak isn’t nodded though It’ll be Penny and Rishi I’d imagine. We could feasibly only have one candidate over 100 votes, meaning it doesn’t go to the members and that person becomes the new PM.
weller54 Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 11 minutes ago, Sly said: It’ll be Penny and Rishi I’d imagine. We could feasibly only have one candidate over 100 votes, meaning it doesn’t go to the members and that person becomes the new PM. Rodgers in!
Brizzle Fox Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 Well the requirement to get at least 100 MPs supporting you is quite clever as that rules out Bojo. Sunak vs Mordaunt or Wallace if he stands. One will probably concede then so they don't need to go to the membership at all. Good work 1922 committee 1
Captain... Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 10 minutes ago, Sly said: It’ll be Penny and Rishi I’d imagine. We could feasibly only have one candidate over 100 votes, meaning it doesn’t go to the members and that person becomes the new PM. I did wonder if they'd already agreed on who it will be and by only having one candidate then there is no requirement for it going to the members. 1
Sly Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 2 minutes ago, SkidsFox said: Will no one think of King Charles? Leader of the Green Party!
st albans fox Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 4 minutes ago, Brizzle Fox said: Well the requirement to get at least 100 MPs supporting you is quite clever as that rules out Bojo. Sunak vs Mordaunt or Wallace if he stands. One will probably concede then so they don't need to go to the membership at all. Good work 1922 committee I predict if there are two candid on more than 100 votes then it definitely goes to the membership. Can’t see anyone conceding as the membership vote will not necessarily reflect the MP vote eg nomniations sunak. 130 mordaunt. 110 a n other 110 then on Tuesday mp’s will vote again and two of those three (sunak + 1) become the final two let’s say it’s a nuts vote and becomes sunak 250 other person 110 the membership are likely to vote for the candidate with 110 votes - why would that person concede ??
Popular Post fazzyfox Posted 20 October 2022 Popular Post Posted 20 October 2022 Kwasi Kwarteng reckons he can win the leadership vote. He has forecast that if his opponent gets 52% of the vote and he gets the other 58% he'll be in. 1 12
Fazzer 7 Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 Johnson must be defeated. It would spell the end of the party. The man is loathed by most of the country, isn’t he.
Foxdiamond Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 The idea that the Tory members have a say so soon after choosing Truss is laughable. 3
Foxdiamond Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 Just now, Fazzer 7 said: Johnson must be defeated. It would spell the end of the party. The man is loathed by most of the country, isn’t he. A lot of people do like him for probably very shallow reasons. Certainly not for honesty or integrity
kenny Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 33 minutes ago, st albans fox said: I predict if there are two candid on more than 100 votes then it definitely goes to the membership. Can’t see anyone conceding as the membership vote will not necessarily reflect the MP vote eg nomniations sunak. 130 mordaunt. 110 a n other 110 then on Tuesday mp’s will vote again and two of those three (sunak + 1) become the final two let’s say it’s a nuts vote and becomes sunak 250 other person 110 the membership are likely to vote for the candidate with 110 votes - why would that person concede ?? 1922 withdraws the whip if they don't concede? I doubt it's going to the membership this time, needs to be sorted quickly if nothing else.
Fazzer 7 Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 18 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: A lot of people do like him for probably very shallow reasons. Certainly not for honesty or integrity I know. Well I’m pretty shallow politically but I really detest him and his ole man.
st albans fox Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 17 minutes ago, kenny said: 1922 withdraws the whip if they don't concede? I doubt it's going to the membership this time, needs to be sorted quickly if nothing else. The last two go to the membership there is no reason to concede (as long as they have more than 100 votes)
Guest Col city fan Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 Just sat watching the news tonight with a sense of both incredulity and anger at the current state of British politics. These people are meant to lead us. We (quite rightly) espouse the virtues of strong leadership whilst being ‘led’ by the most selfish bunch of people. I hear that Liz Truss, having been the PM for 44 days, is now to receive 115k per year for life. This won’t be ‘earnt’, it’ll just be given to her. Any notion of ‘we’re all in it together’ gets blown out of the window when I hear information like this. And now, there are clamours for Boris to return, with presumably some shouts coming in from exactly those same people who wanted to give him the boot. It’s hypocrisy at its finest but it’s more than that. It’s actually obscene. The country needs a general election anytime soon and we need to have the chance to do something about this. I can’t recollect ever being so disillusioned with the ruling administration. What an utter shambles.
kenny Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 2 minutes ago, st albans fox said: The last two go to the membership there is no reason to concede (as long as they have more than 100 votes) Unless they don't trust the membership and have already decided who they want. I also can't see anything except a postal ballott working and that won't be sorted by the end of the month.
Foxdiamond Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 14 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said: I know. Well I’m pretty shallow politically but I really detest him and his ole man. In my view any Tory MP who backs Johnson or as a voter wants him back is morally bankrupt.
bovril Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 1 hour ago, Vacamion said: Angela Merkel was widely regarded as unshowy, and at best, a merely competent speechmaker and debater, but she combined this lack of the spectacular with dour competence and endurance, and as a result she didn't balls up the job and she lasted and lasted and left the joint in better condition than she found it. I think most of the UK would like politics here to revert to being quite boring again. Highly debatable. She was a disaster.
st albans fox Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 15 minutes ago, kenny said: Unless they don't trust the membership and have already decided who they want. I also can't see anything except a postal ballott working and that won't be sorted by the end of the month. The opportunity to become pm ?? inconceivable that sunak isn’t in the final two (if he stands) And the other person knows that sunak is not popular with the membership why would they concede ? ‘they’ (whoever they are) can’t decide that - they can hope that only one candidate gets 100 nominations on Monday which means no membership vote
kenny Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 1 minute ago, st albans fox said: The opportunity to become pm ?? inconceivable that sunak isn’t in the final two (if he stands) And the other person knows that sunak is not popular with the membership why would they concede ? ‘they’ (whoever they are) can’t decide that - they can hope that only one candidate gets 100 nominations on Monday which means no membership vote They can do all sorts. The Tories are the most successful party in history for a reason.
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