Popular Post Voll Blau Posted 20 October 2022 Popular Post Posted 20 October 2022 6 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said: Just imagine how boring it will be with Sir Keith at the dispatch box. PMQ’s will be like the lords with back benchers nodding off. Good. Rather than than some immoral, floppy-headed sop who couldn't fit into a suit properly taking the piss out of the entire country, or his successor who's ruined maybe millions of lives by crashing the economy just days into office. If I want clowns, I'll go to the circus - not the fvcking Houses of Parliament. 22 7
David Hankey Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 10 minutes ago, Sampson said: No I don’t. There’s nothing to “finish”, Boris has already created a border within the UK’s own borders. It’s an utterly bizarre decision largely without modern precedent to stick a divisive border up in your own country, as even the Berlin Wall was imposed upon Germany by the Soviet Union. But it’s a pretty final decision and he has made his bed on that one. UK government has no control over an Irish Unification referendum, as per the Good Friday Agreement it can be automatically triggered by Stormont when it looks likely it will succeed. It’s not the same as a Scottish or Welsh independence referendum, where the UK government has to grant one. And he was elected on his “oven ready deal” to leave the single market. He doesn’t have the mandate to reneg on that. It’s done as far as Boris is concerned. It’s an utter insanity that will inevitably tear apart the UK and will be inevitably be reversed in a generation when people are far enough removed from the original vote. But Johnson‘a decision to leave the common market has already been played out. There’s nothing unfinished in Northern Ireland in that regard. I was making the point that there is unfinished business with regard to Brexit. The country chose to come out of the EU and I can understand that some still can't accept it but that is democracy. Folk say Bojo delivered Brexit, he did not, not completely. My suggestion to bring him back was tongue in cheek as you and others have clearly not understood.
st albans fox Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 2 minutes ago, Fox in the North said: I don’t want politicians to be characters, I want them to do their job properly. We’ve had enough “personalities”, look where it’s got us. Ironically truss is precisely the boring non personality you and others speak of The personality should be irrelevant- when it comes to elections, it’s the most relevant part !
Voll Blau Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 Just now, David Hankey said: I was making the point that there is unfinished business with regard to Brexit. The country chose to come out of the EU and I can understand that some still can't accept it but that is democracy. Folk say Bojo delivered Brexit, he did not, not completely. My suggestion to bring him back was tongue in cheek as you and others have clearly not understood. He did. The UK is no longer a member of the European Union. That's what people were asked, that's what they voted for. The end. 1
Vlad the Fox Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 1 hour ago, Lako42 said: Just waiting for that odious willy puller Farage to announce his new party to take all of the brown people hating Tory votes. He’s been a bit lost since brexit so has formed his new party called EUkip. Campaigning to join…..
st albans fox Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 Any rational commentator would say that it’s way too soon for boris to return. but if he stands then surely the right will mass behind him as their candidate. And if he’s on the final two then the membership will vote for him. the mp’s on the right of the party will decide if Bojo returns - and their fear that their man/woman may not make it could well drive them behind him
Popular Post Daggers Posted 20 October 2022 Popular Post Posted 20 October 2022 Boris Johnson can **** off 5 1
CosbehFox Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 4 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Ironically truss is precisely the boring non personality you and others speak of The personality should be irrelevant- when it comes to elections, it’s the most relevant part ! Think you’ve misread Truss there - see that speech with the famous Pork Markets line, the Maggie costumes and the Times glamour interview
David Hankey Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 6 minutes ago, Voll Blau said: He did. The UK is no longer a member of the European Union. That's what people were asked, that's what they voted for. The end. No, there is still unfinished business regarding Northern Ireland. 2
Sampson Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, David Hankey said: I was making the point that there is unfinished business with regard to Brexit. The country chose to come out of the EU and I can understand that some still can't accept it but that is democracy. Folk say Bojo delivered Brexit, he did not, not completely. My suggestion to bring him back was tongue in cheek as you and others have clearly not understood. And I am saying you haven’t understood the situation in Northern Ireland What exactly is there to finish in Northern Ireland? We are out of the single market so I don’t get what you think he didn’t deliver in Northern Ireland? There is now a customs border with the EU. There is no immigration border with Ireland because UK and Ireland have always had a separate immigration border from Schengen and UK and Irish citizens are legally (and often culturally) not considered foreigners in each other’s countries, due to the Common Travel Area, part of the treaties signed on Irish independence from the UK back in 1922. Many decades before the EU, EEC or EEA ever were even thought of. I’m not sure you understand what you even mean, the UK’s relationship with Ireland is very different from the UK’s relationship with the rest of the EU and Irish citizens have always had identical rights to British citizens in the UK, even stronger than those of other EU citizens . Boris literally has enacted what people voted for. People voted to leave the EU, not to annul the Good Friday Agreement or the Common Travel Area, they are very separate and much older treaties between UK and Ireland that have nothing to do with the EU. ”Real Brexit hasn’t been finished” is to the 2020s what “Real Communism hasn’t been tried” was to the 1980s. A meaningless slogan said by people who really don’t understand what the EU or Communism even mean. Edited 20 October 2022 by Sampson 1
st albans fox Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 2 minutes ago, CosbehFox said: Think you’ve misread Truss there - see that speech with the famous Pork Markets line, the Maggie costumes and the Times glamour interview Nope - she was/is very shallow of personality just because she has been advised to look like Maggie and do other things doesn’t change that. She is what she is - dreadful and boring
StanSP Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 11 minutes ago, Greg2607 said: He isn't "boring" but i'll bite....... I would much rather have a boring choice, who offers stability and a vision for the country, as opposed to the clusterF*&k "personalities" the tories have inflicted on us for the last few years. Running a country isn't a job for comedians. It's for statesmen. give me starmer over your lot any day of the week. 11 minutes ago, Voll Blau said: Good. Rather than than some immoral, floppy-headed sop who couldn't fit into a suit properly taking the piss out of the entire country, or his successor who's ruined maybe millions of lives by crashing the economy just days into office. If I want clowns, I'll go to the circus - not the fvcking Houses of Parliament. I think we've all at some point responded to him saying exactly the same thing. It actually speaks volumes that the only way he can respond to all this is with a 'boring Sir Keith' jibe. Which, and I'm sure the irony is well and truly missed by the person in question, is explicitly boring in itself. It's barely a deflection at this rate. Merely an observation and, compared to the destructive party in office now, boring doesn't actually look too bad. Joke's on him! 3
Bellend Sebastian Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 Flying back to the UK tomorrow. Will it even still be there??!?!? 1
Popular Post foxile5 Posted 20 October 2022 Popular Post Posted 20 October 2022 The state of some peoples perceptions of what a politician should be. You shouldn't like politicians. You shouldn't be entertained by them. You shouldn't identify with their personalities. In the same way you shouldn't judge a mechanic by his pets or a doctor by his tie. Politicians should run a country well. Being entertaining in PMQs or having a media personality is not a measure of success in that role. I'm sure Johnson and Co are a hoot at parries but I'd much rather a boring bastard in charge of my pension pot. If you're going to PMQs for entertainment may I suggest you're looking for pumpkins in a strawberry patch. Get Netflix. 16 1
Voll Blau Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 7 minutes ago, David Hankey said: No, there is still unfinished business regarding Northern Ireland. Don't remember seeing anything about Northern Ireland on the ballot paper, you must be thinking of a different referendum. 1
David Hankey Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 4 minutes ago, Voll Blau said: Don't remember seeing anything about Northern Ireland on the ballot paper, you must be thinking of a different referendum. And here I was thinking that NI was part of the United Kingdom, silly me.
yorkie1999 Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 £115,000 a year for life, not bad for 44 days in the job, thing is, the last one gets the same and the next one will as well. I think the tories have come up with a plan to make all of them PM so they all get a decent payout before the next elextion. 1
leicsmac Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 8 minutes ago, foxile5 said: The state of some peoples perceptions of what a politician should be. You shouldn't like politicians. You shouldn't be entertained by them. You shouldn't identify with their personalities. In the same way you shouldn't judge a mechanic by his pets or a doctor by his tie. Politicians should run a country well. Being entertaining in PMQs or having a media personality is not a measure of success in that role. I'm sure Johnson and Co are a hoot at parries but I'd much rather a boring bastard in charge of my pension pot. If you're going to PMQs for entertainment may I suggest you're looking for pumpkins in a strawberry patch. Get Netflix. Yup. Substance over style, please.
Finnaldo Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 14 minutes ago, David Hankey said: No, there is still unfinished business regarding Northern Ireland. Well perhaps a party that hasn’t tried and failed at the very issue, including going against their own agreement on the matter, should have a crack instead? We might even see some competence. 2
RoboFox Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 38 minutes ago, Fazzer 7 said: Just imagine how boring it will be with Sir Keith at the dispatch box. PMQ’s will be like the lords with back benchers nodding off. There it is. The right wing’s obsession with personality politics summed up perfectly. 2
leicsmac Posted 20 October 2022 Posted 20 October 2022 Seriously, the amount of "good, he should never have left, he did nothing wrong" I'm seeing on social media about Boris makes me more convinced that the Tories will go for him as their only chance in a GE and I'm not convinced that they're wrong about it. Have to dip my hat to the skill necessary to manipulate that many people tbh.
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