Covid Roll Call

[jgtuk]

31 minutes ago, Libertine said:

People who aren't eligible for covid jabs on NHS now can get them in Boots if anyone is interested. Bit pricey (just under £100) but may well make it a lot milder and speed up recovery.

That’s ridiculous, should be free for anyone who wants one. I’m sure if you mix with vulnerable people you could call your surgery and ask? 
I’ve had 11 Covid so far, a pneumonia jab that lasts 5 years (I think) and due my second Shingles jab in two weeks. 
edit: plus my annual flu jab

Edited 31 July 2024 by jgtuk

[filthyfox]

Well...   I decided I should test before seeing a vulnerable relative, and feeling as I do....

 

 

I'm positive.  I've got it.

[chuddy8]

On 31/01/2023 at 15:30, StanSP said:

Yeah I'm fully vaccinated but symptoms seem quite bad. Splitting constant headache and shivering constantly. Lethargic and achy body. 

Thanks

 

I found the same thing, I had two vaccinations and three boosters, whereas my brother didn't have any vaccinations and his symptoms were far milder than mine. The joys of immune system variance!

[Paninistickers]

On 02/08/2024 at 15:04, chuddy8 said:

I found the same thing, I had two vaccinations and three boosters, whereas my brother didn't have any vaccinations and his symptoms were far milder than mine. The joys of immune system variance!

Or of course, could be evidence that the jabs don't make a blind bit of difference. 

 

Just saying like...😉

[st albans fox]

10 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Or of course, could be evidence that the jabs don't make a blind bit of difference. 

 

Just saying like...😉

I knew someone who smoked 20 a day till he passed in his mid nineties.  His brother went in his early sixties from lung cancer ….. 

 

just saying like …….: 😉

[FoxyPV]

6 weeks in. Still no voice. Another round of horse tablet sized antibiotics, nasal spray and referral to ENT.

 

Absolutely raging

[Paninistickers]

2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

I knew someone who smoked 20 a day till he passed in his mid nineties.  His brother went in his early sixties from lung cancer ….. 

 

just saying like …….: 😉

In a way, it's a pity a trial wasn't done to measure COVID jabs versus placebo. 

 

Whichever side of the fence you sit, it would be interesting to see the results. 

 

 

[st albans fox]

16 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

In a way, it's a pity a trial wasn't done to measure COVID jabs versus placebo. 

 

Whichever side of the fence you sit, it would be interesting to see the results. 

 

Wasn’t the time for detailed scientific analysis like that. and once it’s a case of how ill you feel as opposed to risk to life is there much point ?

 

I doubt we’ve learned the best way of dealing with a pandemic should one appear again in our lifetimes. 

[Paninistickers]

4 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Wasn’t the time for detailed scientific analysis like that. and once it’s a case of how ill you feel as opposed to risk to life is there much point ?

 

I doubt we’ve learned the best way of dealing with a pandemic should one appear again in our lifetimes. 

Sure sure sure I get that. I was just pontificating that it'd be interesting to see the results of jab (the only jab I've ever heard of that DOESN'T prevent the infection it protects against) versus placebo. 

 

[filthyfox]

You may know I suffer from sleep apnoea.

 

The treatment I recirve for that is similar to the first stage hospital treatment for covid (continuous positive air provision).

 

It certainly helped during coughing fits!

[Sly]

The last two times I’ve tested positive, I’ve had no symptoms. 
 

The only reason I’ve tested is because my wife tested positive. 

[chuddy8]

On 09/08/2024 at 21:45, Paninistickers said:

Or of course, could be evidence that the jabs don't make a blind bit of difference. 

 

Just saying like...😉

I don't think I would get any more, it may just be confirmation bias, but everybody I know who has been vaccinated had worse symptoms than the (admittedly few) people I know who didn't get the vaccine. The sad thing is, it's made me sceptical about any quickly developed new vaccines that ay be needed for future pandemics.

[Paninistickers]

1 hour ago, chuddy8 said:

I don't think I would get any more, it may just be confirmation bias, but everybody I know who has been vaccinated had worse symptoms than the (admittedly few) people I know who didn't get the vaccine. The sad thing is, it's made me sceptical about any quickly developed new vaccines that ay be needed for future pandemics.

Mate, in the interests of fairness, I had the jabs (in order to travel) but absolutely refused the kids to have them. 

 

My COVID back in whenever, 2021 I think, was a heavy very snotty cold that left me with tinnitus. But basically a cold, wasn't much illness as such 

 

My kids were both knocked sideways with flu type symptoms and pretty unwell, but recovered within 72 hours. 

 

Basically, I suspect the natural strength of someone's body (at any given time)  and exposure to viral load has far more to do with it than the vaccine

Edited 14 August 2024 by Paninistickers

[Tuna]

So after 4 and a half years I've finally got it 

[Paninistickers]

6 hours ago, Tuna said:

So after 4 and a half years I've finally got it 

Worth the wait? Do you feel it might be the end of civilisation? 

[Tuna]

23 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Worth the wait? Do you feel it might be the end of civilisation? 

Symptoms have been mild so far fortunately; lethargy, sore throat and sinusitis but just left with the sore throat now -

tested positive again today

[Paninistickers]

18 minutes ago, Tuna said:

Symptoms have been mild so far fortunately; lethargy, sore throat and sinusitis but just left with the sore throat now -

tested positive again today

You'll live. 

[Zear0]

Some first hand testimony from a doctor at the COVID inquiry today.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/sep/26/doctor-in-tears-at-covid-inquiry-says-what-nhs-staff-saw-was-indescribable

 

"Some intensive care units in England were so overwhelmed that staff had to put dead bodies in 3-metre clear plastic refuse sacks after running out of body bags, and then immediately put another Covid patient in that person’s bed, he said."

 

“The scale of death experienced by the intensive care teams during Covid was unlike anything they had ever seen before. They’re no strangers to death – they are the intensive care unit. They look after some of the sickest patients in the hospital, but the scale of death was truly, truly astounding.”

 

“We had nurses talking about patients raining from the sky, where one of the nurses told me they just got tired of putting people in body bags."

 

“[One hospital] said that sometimes they were so overwhelmed that they were putting patients in body bags, lifting them from the bed, putting them on the floor, and putting another patient in that bed straight away because there wasn’t time."

 

“We went to another hospital where things got so bad, they were so short of resource, that they ran out of body bags, and they were instead issued with 9ft clear plastic sacks and cable ties. And those nurses talk about being really traumatised by that, because they had recurring nightmares about feeling like they were just throwing bodies away.

 

“These people are used to seeing death, but not on that scale, and not like that, and whatever the figures show you, the experience for them was indescribable … It really was like nothing else I have ever seen, and certainly not like nothing else those teams have ever seen in their experience.”

 

It was just flu though don't forget.

[jgtuk]

26 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

Some first hand testimony from a doctor at the COVID inquiry today.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/sep/26/doctor-in-tears-at-covid-inquiry-says-what-nhs-staff-saw-was-indescribable

 

"Some intensive care units in England were so overwhelmed that staff had to put dead bodies in 3-metre clear plastic refuse sacks after running out of body bags, and then immediately put another Covid patient in that person’s bed, he said."

 

“The scale of death experienced by the intensive care teams during Covid was unlike anything they had ever seen before. They’re no strangers to death – they are the intensive care unit. They look after some of the sickest patients in the hospital, but the scale of death was truly, truly astounding.”

 

“We had nurses talking about patients raining from the sky, where one of the nurses told me they just got tired of putting people in body bags."

 

“[One hospital] said that sometimes they were so overwhelmed that they were putting patients in body bags, lifting them from the bed, putting them on the floor, and putting another patient in that bed straight away because there wasn’t time."

 

“We went to another hospital where things got so bad, they were so short of resource, that they ran out of body bags, and they were instead issued with 9ft clear plastic sacks and cable ties. And those nurses talk about being really traumatised by that, because they had recurring nightmares about feeling like they were just throwing bodies away.

 

“These people are used to seeing death, but not on that scale, and not like that, and whatever the figures show you, the experience for them was indescribable … It really was like nothing else I have ever seen, and certainly not like nothing else those teams have ever seen in their experience.”

 

It was just flu though don't forget.

Unbelievable that people still maintain that stance (constantly on this forum too) given the evidence.

[FoxesDeb]

Still think it was just a 'sniffle' eh @Paninistickers?

[Paninistickers]

17 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Still think it was just a 'sniffle' eh @Paninistickers?

Haha, fair comments and yup,.pretty grim evidence. 

 

But yup, for 99% of people,.it was the flu at worst, heavy cold or, yes, a sniffle. 

 

It's unarguable that the extreme elderly and very weak (and very unlucky) were at a medium to high risk. I accept that. 

[HighPeakFox]

50 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Haha, fair comments and yup,.pretty grim evidence. 

 

But yup, for 99% of people,.it was the flu at worst, heavy cold or, yes, a sniffle. 

 

It's unarguable that the extreme elderly and very weak (and very unlucky) were at a medium to high risk. I accept that. 

I will be gentle, because I know you are a well-meaning human being, but I have no idea where your confident '99%' comes from. I might not be dead (although if I actually have cancer that might be sooner than I would like) but the effects of Covid I had nearly 3 months ago are noticeable and debilitating, and that will be the case for countless others.

[Wymsey]

1 hour ago, Paninistickers said:

Haha, fair comments and yup,.pretty grim evidence. 

 

But yup, for 99% of people,.it was the flu at worst, heavy cold or, yes, a sniffle. 

 

It's unarguable that the extreme elderly and very weak (and very unlucky) were at a medium to high risk. I accept that. 

As someone who had worked on various Covid-19 patient-allocated wards during the pandemic at the LRI, I strongly beg to differ.

[Parafox]

1 hour ago, Paninistickers said:

Haha, fair comments and yup,.pretty grim evidence. 

 

But yup, for 99% of people,.it was the flu at worst, heavy cold or, yes, a sniffle. 

 

It's unarguable that the extreme elderly and very weak (and very unlucky) were at a medium to high risk. I accept that. 

 

If I had time I'd take a look but you're statement that "for 99% of people it was flu at worst is highly contestable.

 

It wasn't just the weak, elderly and vulnerable that succumbed. I went to 2 deaths in the first month of Covid that were fit, healthy men in their 30's and that's just  in our local area. Extrapolate that nationally and the figures are mind boggling. 

 

You're suggesting that just 1%, 1%, of the infected population died or had serious complications. Utter nonsense.

 

I just wish you would accept the irrefutable facts of the Covid outbreak. I think you're an intelligent person but I also think that your comments aren't fact based and are just what you think to be true.

[Unabomber]

Just because one didn’t personally know someone who was fit and healthy and really struggled with Covid it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. I find it staggering that people can be so flippant about it. My boss who is not old and pretty fit was very close to a ventilator with it.