Popular Post fuchsntf Posted 5 July 2022 Popular Post Posted 5 July 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Dahnsouff said: But we need money (possibly) so….It’s just a question of how much can we live with making from our ‘surplus’ players in order to get our targets I suppose A fee would be nice, but freeing up wages is even more important I would argue. Although it is all hearsay and gossip, we do seem to have got ourselves in a right pickle. Although it is all hearsay and gossip, we do seem to have got ourselves in a right pickle... Sorry fella,but I totally disagree... This is typical FT rolling bullshit.. Because business isn't running according to maverick thoughts & ideas of those fans desperate to see movement on player transfers..does not mean..the club is having any major issues or problems that shows the club are in transfer- desperation-meltdown... It's the shaky, always panicking fans that are spreading the Branston & piccalilly, & so desperate they can't get the top off the pickled onions . Some love to sour our ploughman's Lunch,forgetting like the Stilton hidden under the salad,we still have a red-cabbage & beetroot twist supported by the sturdy Porkpie tackling that mustard awaited zing to our up ,& coming seasoning.. Too many worrying over, being left with only the gurkin & panic while not knowing which salad dressing choice we are left with...& so scared we might miss out on the hot garlic bread.. Some have it even worse & believe even if we get out of the pickle...we will be... Barbecued anyway.. Edited 5 July 2022 by fuchsntf 4 1 2
Plastik Man Posted 5 July 2022 Posted 5 July 2022 1 hour ago, fuchsntf said: Although it is all hearsay and gossip, we do seem to have got ourselves in a right pickle... Sorry fella,but I totally disagree... This is typical FT rolling bullshit.. Because business isn't running according to maverick thoughts & ideas of those fans desperate to see movement on player transfers..does not mean..the club is having any major issues or problems that shows the club are in transfer- desperation-meltdown... It's the shaky, always panicking fans that are spreading the Branston & piccalilly, & so desperate they can't get the top off the pickled onions . Some love to sour our ploughman's Lunch,forgetting like the Stilton hidden under the salad,we still have a red-cabbage & beetroot twist supported by the sturdy Porkpie tackling that mustard awaited zing to our up ,& coming seasoning.. Too many worrying over, being left with only the gurkin & panic while not knowing which salad dressing choice we are left with...& so scared we might miss out on the hot garlic bread.. Some have it even worse & believe even if we get out of the pickle...we will be... Barbecued anyway.. I can see you answered that with relish. 2
Dahnsouff Posted 5 July 2022 Posted 5 July 2022 2 hours ago, fuchsntf said: Although it is all hearsay and gossip, we do seem to have got ourselves in a right pickle... Sorry fella,but I totally disagree... This is typical FT rolling bullshit.. Because business isn't running according to maverick thoughts & ideas of those fans desperate to see movement on player transfers..does not mean..the club is having any major issues or problems that shows the club are in transfer- desperation-meltdown... It's the shaky, always panicking fans that are spreading the Branston & piccalilly, & so desperate they can't get the top off the pickled onions . Some love to sour our ploughman's Lunch,forgetting like the Stilton hidden under the salad,we still have a red-cabbage & beetroot twist supported by the sturdy Porkpie tackling that mustard awaited zing to our up ,& coming seasoning.. Too many worrying over, being left with only the gurkin & panic while not knowing which salad dressing choice we are left with...& so scared we might miss out on the hot garlic bread.. Some have it even worse & believe even if we get out of the pickle...we will be... Barbecued anyway.. Thats why I said it hearsay and gossip, I even said seems, so further use of vague synonyms seemed a little unnecessary! But for reference, I am very much in the que sera sera camp, and trust those in a far better position of both knowledge and power to therefore make better decisions. What I meant by a bit of pickle was, that we have been a longstanding member of this farcical money drenched league, and that duration might be catching up with us, such to the point where incremental wages, costs, etc over this duration may mean we need to cut our cloth accordingly, and seeing as we are not owned by an owner who lives for short term glory, they do not operate too far outside of self-sustainability, and thank goodness!
MalletFox Posted 5 July 2022 Posted 5 July 2022 3 hours ago, fuchsntf said: Although it is all hearsay and gossip, we do seem to have got ourselves in a right pickle... Sorry fella,but I totally disagree... This is typical FT rolling bullshit.. Because business isn't running according to maverick thoughts & ideas of those fans desperate to see movement on player transfers..does not mean..the club is having any major issues or problems that shows the club are in transfer- desperation-meltdown... It's the shaky, always panicking fans that are spreading the Branston & piccalilly, & so desperate they can't get the top off the pickled onions . Some love to sour our ploughman's Lunch,forgetting like the Stilton hidden under the salad,we still have a red-cabbage & beetroot twist supported by the sturdy Porkpie tackling that mustard awaited zing to our up ,& coming seasoning.. Too many worrying over, being left with only the gurkin & panic while not knowing which salad dressing choice we are left with...& so scared we might miss out on the hot garlic bread.. Some have it even worse & believe even if we get out of the pickle...we will be... Barbecued anyway.. That’s some proper Eric Cantona talk going on there!!! I kind of followed, think I partially agree, and enjoyed trying to follow the analogy through to conclusion 🤣👏🏻👏🏻
fuchsntf Posted 5 July 2022 Posted 5 July 2022 1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said: Thats why I said it hearsay and gossip, I even said seems, so further use of vague synonyms seemed a little unnecessary! But for reference, I am very much in the que sera sera camp, and trust those in a far better position of both knowledge and power to therefore make better decisions. What I meant by a bit of pickle was, that we have been a longstanding member of this farcical money drenched league, and that duration might be catching up with us, such to the point where incremental wages, costs, etc over this duration may mean we need to cut our cloth accordingly, and seeing as we are not owned by an owner who lives for short term glory, they do not operate too far outside of self-sustainability, and thank goodness! Don't have to explain to me dahnsy,It was late and thought I'd bounce off your post and toss the Salad around.. We actually think not unlike...both of us ( Like others)are happy to wait & see before thrashing out assumptions. Keeps the salad & pickle fresh...
fuchsntf Posted 5 July 2022 Posted 5 July 2022 19 minutes ago, MalletFox said: That’s some proper Eric Cantona talk going on there!!! I kind of followed, think I partially agree, and enjoyed trying to follow the analogy through to conclusion 🤣👏🏻👏🏻 Don't you worry,I see your apprentice days,are coming to the end,and another fuchsntf desciple has ripened.. 1
Harry the Cat Posted 5 July 2022 Posted 5 July 2022 4 hours ago, fuchsntf said: Although it is all hearsay and gossip, we do seem to have got ourselves in a right pickle... Sorry fella,but I totally disagree... This is typical FT rolling bullshit.. Because business isn't running according to maverick thoughts & ideas of those fans desperate to see movement on player transfers..does not mean..the club is having any major issues or problems that shows the club are in transfer- desperation-meltdown... It's the shaky, always panicking fans that are spreading the Branston & piccalilly, & so desperate they can't get the top off the pickled onions . Some love to sour our ploughman's Lunch,forgetting like the Stilton hidden under the salad,we still have a red-cabbage & beetroot twist supported by the sturdy Porkpie tackling that mustard awaited zing to our up ,& coming seasoning.. Too many worrying over, being left with only the gurkin & panic while not knowing which salad dressing choice we are left with...& so scared we might miss out on the hot garlic bread.. Some have it even worse & believe even if we get out of the pickle...we will be... Barbecued anyway.. Your argument is difficult to swallow!
Simoken Posted 5 July 2022 Posted 5 July 2022 4 hours ago, fuchsntf said: Although it is all hearsay and gossip, we do seem to have got ourselves in a right pickle... Sorry fella,but I totally disagree... This is typical FT rolling bullshit.. Because business isn't running according to maverick thoughts & ideas of those fans desperate to see movement on player transfers..does not mean..the club is having any major issues or problems that shows the club are in transfer- desperation-meltdown... It's the shaky, always panicking fans that are spreading the Branston & piccalilly, & so desperate they can't get the top off the pickled onions . Some love to sour our ploughman's Lunch,forgetting like the Stilton hidden under the salad,we still have a red-cabbage & beetroot twist supported by the sturdy Porkpie tackling that mustard awaited zing to our up ,& coming seasoning.. Too many worrying over, being left with only the gurkin & panic while not knowing which salad dressing choice we are left with...& so scared we might miss out on the hot garlic bread.. Some have it even worse & believe even if we get out of the pickle...we will be... Barbecued anyway.. Facts 1
Stadt Posted 5 July 2022 Posted 5 July 2022 46 starts and 12 league goals in 3 seasons for £30m. Even in his most productive season (19/20) his goals were distributed in a way which really didn't achieve much, even the meaningful contributions were against dross. 3 vs Southampton A, 2-0 already when he scored his first. 2 vs West ham H, 2-1 up when he scored his first 1 vs Brighton A, he scored the first goal here 1 vs Sheff Utd H, scored the opener 1 vs Newcastle A, scored the opener The opportunity cost of that £30m is huge as well, who could we have signed instead? It's obvious he was never a conventional winger - at best he was going to be a 10 goals a season, 5 assists hardworking inside forward and even that hasn't materialised. Let's say conservatively he's on 60k p/w, with his fee he's cost us around £40m in total so far. If we can recoup c. £10m and get his wages off the books (he's more likely to be on £80-90k p/w imo) then we'll have done well. Another year of paying his wages (on loan or otherwise) whilst his contract expires next year actively harms us. Any settling for less than this shot a rhombic lack of ambition. 3
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 5 July 2022 Posted 5 July 2022 11 minutes ago, Stadt said: 46 starts and 12 league goals in 3 seasons for £30m. Even in his most productive season (19/20) his goals were distributed in a way which really didn't achieve much, even the meaningful contributions were against dross. 3 vs Southampton A, 2-0 already when he scored his first. 2 vs West ham H, 2-1 up when he scored his first 1 vs Brighton A, he scored the first goal here 1 vs Sheff Utd H, scored the opener 1 vs Newcastle A, scored the opener The bottom bit is the key point for me, his numbers were crap and even when he did something it was usually when a game was already won against crap sides. 1
ultrafox Posted 5 July 2022 Posted 5 July 2022 He needs to go for his own good. He'll only end up warming the bench next season, if he's lucky. Maybe he's happy with that on his salary. Please let him go.
Sharpe's Fox Posted 5 July 2022 Posted 5 July 2022 14 minutes ago, Stadt said: 46 starts and 12 league goals in 3 seasons for £30m. Even in his most productive season (19/20) his goals were distributed in a way which really didn't achieve much, even the meaningful contributions were against dross. 3 vs Southampton A, 2-0 already when he scored his first. 2 vs West ham H, 2-1 up when he scored his first 1 vs Brighton A, he scored the first goal here 1 vs Sheff Utd H, scored the opener 1 vs Newcastle A, scored the opener The opportunity cost of that £30m is huge as well, who could we have signed instead? It's obvious he was never a conventional winger - at best he was going to be a 10 goals a season, 5 assists hardworking inside forward and even that hasn't materialised. Let's say conservatively he's on 60k p/w, with his fee he's cost us around £40m in total so far. If we can recoup c. £10m and get his wages off the books (he's more likely to be on £80-90k p/w imo) then we'll have done well. Another year of paying his wages (on loan or otherwise) whilst his contract expires next year actively harms us. Any settling for less than this shot a rhombic lack of ambition. I could see the logic in signing him when he came in. Like you say, an inside forward who can get goals at the back post from Barnes and Chilwell deliveries and is tidy around the box when the balls on the right side. Turns out he was just desperately shite. 1
Jabfox Posted 7 July 2022 Posted 7 July 2022 Just now, Clarkey123 said: No chance are we asking or is anyone paying £25m
Clarkey123 Posted 7 July 2022 Posted 7 July 2022 Just now, Steve Earle said: £25m?!?!?!? I believe they missed the dot between the 2 and 5 1 3
PAPA LAZAROU Posted 7 July 2022 Posted 7 July 2022 On 05/07/2022 at 05:52, Plastik Man said: I can see you answered that with relish. Touch of Mayo and a hint of Pot noodle.
norwichfox Posted 7 July 2022 Posted 7 July 2022 2 hours ago, Clarkey123 said: Completely trumps the Musa transfer...
Dahnsouff Posted 7 July 2022 Posted 7 July 2022 If he goes for £25m then someone is money laundering 1 3
JimJams Posted 7 July 2022 Posted 7 July 2022 Figure includes wages? *Still about £ 20 mill too high!
CloudFox Posted 7 July 2022 Posted 7 July 2022 Bloody hell, imagine if we sold him for that! 😂 There's no way that's right. I was going to say Betis couldn't afford that, but they were signing a few £20m+ players a couple of years ago.
st albans fox Posted 7 July 2022 Posted 7 July 2022 13 minutes ago, JimJams said: Figure includes wages? *Still about £ 20 mill too high! He’s only got a year left so that’s max £4m no way are getting more than £12m for him unless he has an extra year option that we could invoke
JimJams Posted 7 July 2022 Posted 7 July 2022 I'm talking about to them. Some publications quote the full cost of transfer fee plus wages for the contract duration to show the full cost of the transfer. 1
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