Rodgers opens up on Leicester City transfer struggles but 'won't go to war' with club

[Stadt]

Missing out on the CL in both 19/20 and 20/21 has been hugely impactful. If we hadn't contrived to throw away a 14 (?) point lead in 19/20, we wouldn't be in this situation.

[Dames]

Now there is 130k pw shifted off the budget are we going to see some incomings?

 

I think it will say a lot about the state of club if we don't get active after shifting one of our highest ever earners.

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

1 minute ago, Stinky said:

I agree but with the amount of money spent on the training ground, is our ambition really just to be best of the rest and a stepping stone to better things? I'm sure with the owners it's not but as you say I can't ever see us being any bigger than we are now

Right now, I am not sure: There is the duopoly between Liverpool and ManCity, followed by Chelsea and Man U, and then Arsenal and Tottenham.

 

Unless something is done to increase England's European places, it will be difficult barring unforeseen circumstances (e.g. legislation against sovereign wealth funds owning teams, or one of the big clubs going bankrupt). I think the ideal for the club would be being a mainstay in Europe, winning Cups on occasion, and building up the finances to be able to challenge for a title, but that is a years-long journey. It's a journey easier in other countries, which have fewer "Big" clubs. Challenging for titles might be more difficult for "everyone else" in Spain, Italy, France and Germany but challenging for Champions League spots is much easier for a club of Leicester's size and ambition. 

[st albans fox]

31 minutes ago, Stinky said:

Bit of a side note... Of course there are benefits to our new training ground that maybe we won't see for a good few years yet and it's definitely something to be proud of, but does no one else think we've gone a bit over the top with it all? I know it's not really the direct cause of our issues at the minute but with these supposed wantaway players, it's all good and well using it to attract players but I don't think it will ever be enough to stop our best talent having their heads turned by the "big six" 

It may be a big factor in fringe players deciding to stay and not play …..

 

no one saw that on the risk assessment!

[st albans fox]

3 minutes ago, Dames said:

Now there is 130k pw shifted off the budget are we going to see some incomings?

 

I think it will say a lot about the state of club if we don't get active after shifting one of our highest ever earners.

I think year 1 on ffp is 90% of turn over (then 80 and finally 70%)

 

I guess it depends where we are pre kasper leaving on the forecasts 

 

and kasper leaving doesn’t solve the issue of fringe players hanging around outside the 25 man squad which is a big part of the problem. 

Edited 3 August 2022 by st albans fox

[Dames]

1 minute ago, st albans fox said:

I think year 1 on ffp is 90% of turn over (then 80 and finally 70%)

 

I guess it depends where we are pre kasper leaving on the forecasts 

We have to be in Europe for it to count and i'm struggling to see us making it this season unless we really luck out with injuries. Even then i'm sure we are operating at 90% anyway and the other drops will come naturally with the other contract expiries we've got coming up. 

 

1 minute ago, pmcla26 said:

New contracts for Maddison and Youri 

This would definitely go some way to calming the nerves.

[smudgerfox]

54 minutes ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said:

Here is the full quote, and there is nothing about "overachieving" but a mention that we are club "who can hopefully challenge towards the top of the league" and the only "confusion" is people thinking we are a club "that can spend endless pots of money."

 

I seriously don't see how people twisted this quote around to mean he was saying we were "lucky" and "overachieving."

 

“We have ambitions here and it was the reason I came to Leicester City. I didn’t come to just go through the motions, I came here to work with a squad of players who can hopefully challenge towards the top of the league. That was the big reason I came. But it’s all about the timing. If the opportunity isn’t there and availability and affordability of a player isn’t there, we are not a club that can spend endless pots of money. Where the confusion comes is that because of where we’ve been challenging in these last few seasons, it’s been deemed that maybe we are one of those clubs. Our ambition is to be there but it’s always going to be a challenge for us. We need to have our best players available, and if they’re not, it’s difficult for us, and that’s been this season.”

He said at one point in the last few months that he came to a club which was happy to stay in the Premier League - in other words he’d transformed our horizons 

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

1 minute ago, smudgerfox said:

He said at one point in the last few months that he came to a club which was happy to stay in the Premier League - in other words he’d transformed our horizons 

Find the full quote for me...because i just gave a full quote which has been not only taken out of context by most people on this forum, but actually completely re-written.

 

Because  if he said "a few years ago was happy to be in the Premier League," he would be absolutely correct. I doubt he said that was what he walked into, especially given the full quote I provided said the exact opposite.

[sly1]

Give rogers him 2 months  ,he will be gone aswell like most of the players 

Edited 3 August 2022 by sly1

[Collymore]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

Pearson was very fortunate that he wasn't really in the situation where his players wanted out because big money was on the table for them.

I'm simply ignoring some variables so that I can get a sly dig in at Rodgers and big up the Lord himself, Nigel. 

 

Remember, billions around the world ignore natural disasters and atrocities that happen on a daily basis...

 

The lord works in mysterious ways mate.

 

 

 

Edited 3 August 2022 by Collymore

[smudgerfox]

9 minutes ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said:

Find the full quote for me...because i just gave a full quote which has been not only taken out of context by most people on this forum, but actually completely re-written.

 

Because  if he said "a few years ago was happy to be in the Premier League," he would be absolutely correct. I doubt he said that was what he walked into, especially given the full quote I provided said the exact opposite.

He did say it but I don’t have time to find it for you. Sorry. 
 

My main point about Brendan’s media statements since Forest is that they are transparently self-serving. They provide an alibi for failure this season ( as injuries did last season) and an alibi for walking away from the job. 
 

Essentially - I wanted to rebuild the squad, the club couldn’t afford it, in fact we had to sell and I can’t/couldn’t be expected to maintain previous standards in those circumstances. That’s why we’re losing/ that’s why I’m walking. Set piece fiasco. Forgotten. Last minute capitulations. Forgotten. Farcical summer transfer window in 2021. Forgotten. Missing out on fourth place - twice. Forgotten. Pathetic performance in Europa League group stages. Forgotten. 

[HighPeakFox]

33 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Missing out on the CL in both 19/20 and 20/21 has been hugely impactful. If we hadn't contrived to throw away a 14 (?) point lead in 19/20, we wouldn't be in this situation.

Much as I understand this pure conjecture, it's both impossible to prove and utterly pointless.

[Craig]

18 minutes ago, MarriedaLeicesterGirl said:

Find the full quote for me...because i just gave a full quote which has been not only taken out of context by most people on this forum, but actually completely re-written.

 

Because  if he said "a few years ago was happy to be in the Premier League," he would be absolutely correct. I doubt he said that was what he walked into, especially given the full quote I provided said the exact opposite.

It's the same with the whole 'rebuild' thing too.

 

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

2 minutes ago, smudgerfox said:

He did say it but I don’t have time to find it for you. Sorry. 
 

Well, he said in February he came to the club because it had the ambition to challenge for the top spaces. He also said that the club doesn't have an endless pot of money to spend on transfers, and several people on this forum said he had said we "overachieved" under him in the interview, which he never did. 

 

Given the propensity of forum members to misremember what he says entirely, or take it completely out of context, or just play a game of Chinese whispers with what one poster said another poster said another poster said he said...I will take your assertion he said this in the manner you say he said it with a fairly huge mountain of salt.

[Dames]

35 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Much as I understand this pure conjecture, it's both impossible to prove and utterly pointless.

As someone who has harped on about missing out on the CL places a lot in the past I agree with this. I actually think we'd be worse off this summer because we'd have Champions League players on Champions League wages that need shifting. 

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, Stadt said:

Missing out on the CL in both 19/20 and 20/21 has been hugely impactful. If we hadn't contrived to throw away a 14 (?) point lead in 19/20, we wouldn't be in this situation.

No we'd be even worse 😂😂

[Foxxed]

53 minutes ago, Dames said:

As someone who has harped on about missing out on the CL places a lot in the past I agree with this. I actually think we'd be worse off this summer because we'd have Champions League players on Champions League wages that need shifting. 

We’d also have Champions League money to pay for them

[Stadt]

7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

No we'd be even worse 😂😂

We'd have a RW, we most likely sign a better player than Soumare, we probably pickup a better backup CB before the need for Vestergaard even arose and the deadwood becomes a bit more attractive.

[Stadt]

1 hour ago, HighPeakFox said:

Much as I understand this pure conjecture, it's both impossible to prove and utterly pointless.

What's the point in a forum then? We can't prove 95% of the discussions on here, we can speculate on whatever because that's what football fans do. "Utterly pointless"  this is why I have you on ignore.

 

 

[Ric Flair]

5 minutes ago, Stadt said:

We'd have a RW, we most likely sign a better player than Soumare, we probably pickup a better backup CB before the need for Vestergaard even arose and the deadwood becomes a bit more attractive.

We'd have paid way more in wages though and Soumare was all but agreed. We would have had a right winger though you are right and that sickens me.

[HighPeakFox]

4 hours ago, Stadt said:

What's the point in a forum then? We can't prove 95% of the discussions on here, we can speculate on whatever because that's what football fans do. "Utterly pointless"  this is why I have you on ignore.

I cannot go on, knowing this. 

[Bazly]

I always wondered how, on forums, those that claim to have you on ignore continue to comment on your input. I had that on a car forum once, someone telling the forum I had been on their ignore list for yonks, and it amused me greatly. Its like being hit with a babies dummy. Where the slightest provocation incites the next dummy strike. Whilst being ghosted of course. 

[norwichfox]

Nigel would know what to do....and who to buy for next to nowt.

[filbertway]

6 hours ago, Stinky said:

I agree but with the amount of money spent on the training ground, is our ambition really just to be best of the rest and a stepping stone to better things? I'm sure with the owners it's not but as you say I can't ever see us being any bigger than we are now

The plan is to be a stepping stone for elite players that we develop. That's an incredibly ambitious plan and if executed well it'll lead to us being able to experience a good deal of success at the highest level whilst having the priviledge of watching some of the best young players in the world being coached by the top up and coming coaches in the world.

 

Sounds pretty good to me

[Brainy]

The block feature is broken anyway