Financial Fair Play

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

Honestly it's the absolute pits. Arsenal and Spurs can spend 150m yet we're the problems.

 

It's anti competitive and you'd never get away with it in business. Football is absolutely dead and the gap is just getting bigger.

[Babylon]

6 minutes ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Honestly it's the absolute pits. Arsenal and Spurs can spend 150m yet we're the problems.

 

It's anti competitive and you'd never get away with it in business. Football is absolutely dead and the gap is just getting bigger.

It forces it to the point where you might as well just have a closed shop breakaway European league. Exactly what they all want and probably what UEFA would be happy with so long as it’s under their banner, 

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

4 minutes ago, Babylon said:

It forces it to the point where you might as well just have a closed shop breakaway European league. Exactly what they all want and probably what UEFA would be happy with so long as it’s under their banner, 

Theyve basically just given them what they wanted anyway. We've had our fun now but **** me what a farce its becoming.

[Le Renard]

Our owners are putting in the infrastructure to compete, but it will take time.   The conveyor belt of talent from the academy is one way and the other is to increase the stadium with the hotel and shops etc.

[st albans fox]

The problem is that they introduce a huge change and give clubs no time to prepare for it

 

you have to provide a contract cycle of at least 4 years to introduce it 

 

we are overspent on wages so we do have ourselves to blame on that score but we were working to a different set of rules  

[Ric Flair]

Fcuk UEFA, let's win the Prem again and then refuse to take part in the cabal. Now ANNOUNCE RAYAN CHERKI

[st albans fox]

2 minutes ago, Le Renard said:

Our owners are putting in the infrastructure to compete, but it will take time.   The conveyor belt of talent from the academy is one way and the other is to increase the stadium with the hotel and shops etc.

That will merely cement out place in the middle 8 clubs below top six 

top six will surely be out of our reach 

[FoxesWalk]

It’s doing what it’s designed to do. Kill competition. 

[Guest TamworthFoxes]

This anger against ffp we need to harvest as a club and a fan base to create a siege mentality. Us against the corrupt premier league. Unless we have something like that to galvanise us I fear the club and fans will sleep walk towards relegation and before we know it it will be too late.  Stoke City are the perfect example of what could happen.

[crisp packet]

All about the big clubs….

 

” we can’t have another Leicester city”

[Vlad the Fox]

8 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Fcuk UEFA, let's win the Prem again and then refuse to take part in the cabal. Now ANNOUNCE RAYAN CHERKI

Yep, spend what we can to do well in our league and if it breaks eufa corrupt rules, **** it, we won’t bother with their bent leagues. 

[Le Renard]

11 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

That will merely cement out place in the middle 8 clubs below top six 

top six will surely be out of our reach 

It will be the top seven in a couple of years, we are fighting to be top ten, let alone top six.

[FoxInTheBirstallBox]

FFP is the reason Chelsea can spend so much this window, they had a transfer ban, sold hazard. And the following season spent very little relatively. Now they are reaping the rewards.

 

With the owners being so close to Chelsea and their board, I would imagine they are trying to follow the same model. It will be slow, and take years. But we aren't anywhere near as big as these clubs, so we have to build another way 

[Guest Kopfkino]

I think there’s other clubs out there that would be able to splash more money than we could in a non-FFP world so I’m. It sure it’s absence would really help our competitiveness. 
 

 

[st albans fox]

10 minutes ago, FoxInTheBirstallBox said:

FFP is the reason Chelsea can spend so much this window, they had a transfer ban, sold hazard. And the following season spent very little relatively. Now they are reaping the rewards.

 

With the owners being so close to Chelsea and their board, I would imagine they are trying to follow the same model. It will be slow, and take years. But we aren't anywhere near as big as these clubs, so we have to build another way 

nett spend since 2017.  Our issue is the size of the contracts we’ve given out across too many players 
 

1. Manchester United – £479.04m
2. Manchester City – £424.81m
3. Arsenal – £334.73m
4. Chelsea – £240.56m
5. Tottenham – £231.60m
6. Aston Villa – £221.24m
7. Everton – £219.25m
8. Newcastle – £217.32m
9. Liverpool – £199m
10. West Ham – £196.91m

 

 

Edited 13 August 2022 by st albans fox

[StanSP]

It is very frustrating how skewed football is towards the bigger clubs. Closed shop is the best phrase. The authorities and hierarchy probably shat themselves when we won the league. Despised it no doubt as it meant less money for their beloved big merch clubs. 

 

[Vlad the Fox]

1 minute ago, StanSP said:

It is very frustrating how skewed football is towards the bigger clubs. Closed shop is the best phrase. The authorities and hierarchy probably shat themselves when we won the league. Despised it no doubt as it meant less money for their beloved big merch clubs. 

 

I don’t think they shat themselves when we won the league. They shit themselves at the power of the big clubs. They’ve been bowing down to them for years now and it won’t stop until the major leagues in Europe are nothing more than a precession. Somewhere along the way someone has got have have the balls to stand up to them, and say enough is enough, and start to take the power and influence away from them. If they threaten to break away then so be it but make it known that they will not be allowed to re-enter any domestic competition and any player will not be eligible for international call up as it will come to a point where everyone else will be better off without them and their anti competition ways. 
 

Following that there should be salary caps, transfer fee caps and the removal of agents and their power and influence. 

[Chrysalis]

The newest FFP and the revenue share via coefficient has really shown in the open now how silly it is.

 

Get rid of them in their jp morgan trophy and let the rest of us get on with it with equal tv share, no FFP based on revenue but instead salary caps.

[Lambert09]

are managers salaries included in the ffp wages ratio? because if so gerrim out!!!! But if not…. gerrim outt nicely! 

[walkerleeds]

2 hours ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

Honestly it's the absolute pits. Arsenal and Spurs can spend 150m yet we're the problems.

 

It's anti competitive and you'd never get away with it in business. Football is absolutely dead and the gap is just getting bigger.

 

Yeah, no shit.

[Guest Kopfkino]

3 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

are managers salaries included in the ffp wages ratio? because if so gerrim out!!!! But if not…. gerrim outt nicely! 

Yes it is, as would any severance package.

 

Although being as it’s being assessed on a calendar year basis, getting rid now wouldn’t be such an issue on the severance package 

[Steve Earle]

I sense I’m not the only one falling out of love with the once beautiful game

[Cincinnati Fox]

We can’t beat it but we can fight it.

the club is trying to build infrastructure to increase revenue and help youth development but that is a slow process and the big clubs will increase revenue as well.

what we need is clever recruitment and underdog football! We need a manager who knows what we are and respects us. Get the charlatan out!!!!!

Edited 14 August 2022 by Cincinnati Fox

[Guest ttfn]

10 hours ago, Kopfkino said:

Yes it is, as would any severance package.

 

Although being as it’s being assessed on a calendar year basis, getting rid now wouldn’t be such an issue on the severance package 

If we have the cash to pay him off and it’s genuinely the new FFP they’re worried about rather than the old then it’s a no-brainer to pay him off before January.

[Nalis]

I know we broke the system in 2016 but if you look at Forest for example from a neutral perspective, there is a lot of excitement among their fans but whats the best they can hope for long term even with loads of investment due to new FFP rules? A cup and the odd 6th or 7th finish but mainly premier league stability?

 

I dont think its hyperbole to say they'll never finish top 4 or challenge for the league, no one else will bar the Sky 6 + Newcastle will.

 

Sad that football fans cant dream that something that is a remote possibility is now impossible.