Iheanacho

[STUHILL]

We need to see a lot more from him, and the rest of the team to be honest. 

5 wins flattered us slightly, and there is no harm in admitting that. 

They have a solid 2 week break now, the window is closed, no more distractions. 

I have backed Nacho to do well and wanted him to stay, as did many others. 

If he doesn't deliver over the next 6-8months though, then there are no excuses left for him. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

8 hours ago, STUHILL said:

We need to see a lot more from him, and the rest of the team to be honest. 

5 wins flattered us slightly, and there is no harm in admitting that. 

They have a solid 2 week break now, the window is closed, no more distractions. 

I have backed Nacho to do well and wanted him to stay, as did many others. 

If he doesn't deliver over the next 6-8months though, then there are no excuses left for him. 

Yeah.

 

We essentially have two strikers who need to step up to the plate (Nacho and Daka) and another who needs to pull it out of the bag (in as much as Vardy scoring 15+ this season would be a surprise, but you wouldn't rule it out.)

[James_lcfc]

I think we'll get a better idea of whether or not the manager rates him against Southampton.

 

If he starts with Cannon I mean...

[ARM1968]

Plenty of games to play for all our strikers. Long season. Cups. Lots of opportunity. However we don’t have a single striker who can magically create chances consistently on his own. The team needs to find a way to feed them a bit. Hopefully our play becomes more fluid and confident soon. 

[TJQuik]

3 hours ago, James_lcfc said:

I think we'll get a better idea of whether or not the manager rates him against Southampton.

 

If he starts with Cannon I mean...

Maybe he'll do that now that Pep has started doing playing two up front

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, TJQuik said:

Maybe he'll do that now that Pep has started doing playing two up front

...you know this will become a trend down the line, it all goes in cycles!!!

You wish clubs would be brave enough to stick to a system that suits them instead of following the trend. Just as Tennis is now dominated by baseliners and has now made the game pretty boring, serve and volley is a pretty exciting approach to the game and the difference between the two styles makes the spectacle.

[JimJams]

On 02/09/2023 at 22:06, Foxmeister said:

Sadly I can't see that, to me EM has a stubborn streak.

So stubborn we started the season with Vardy in the opener and quickly changed for Kel thereafter?

[BKLFox]

17 hours ago, danny2997 said:

Would argue it's not quite the same as he had wing backs that were constantly getting forward and whipping balls in. With our lack of conventional full/wing backs, we're getting much less early balls in than what firmino would have had.

I really meant in the way that he played the position, his movement in pulling defenders around, coming for the ball opening pockets, his hold up play & bringing others in not so much as getting a swinging cross onto his head.
Firmino wasn't there as the main goal scorer he was there to open space for Mane & Salah, Nacho needs to be doing this for the 8's to break into the box as well as wingers cutting into the free space, he will not end up the clubs top scorer but he will / should be resonsible for 7 out of 10 goals with his movement.

[J. James]

Yeah Nacho and Ndidi are in the Nigeria squad (as is Lookman).

So no intensive work on tactics/roles will be going on in this break with him.

[Bluearmyfox28]

I really hope Kel doesn’t develop that Youri mindset with one foot already out of the door. 

[danny2997]

1 hour ago, BKLFox said:

I really meant in the way that he played the position, his movement in pulling defenders around, coming for the ball opening pockets, his hold up play & bringing others in not so much as getting a swinging cross onto his head.
Firmino wasn't there as the main goal scorer he was there to open space for Mane & Salah, Nacho needs to be doing this for the 8's to break into the box as well as wingers cutting into the free space, he will not end up the clubs top scorer but he will / should be resonsible for 7 out of 10 goals with his movement.

Fair points actually, I get you 

[Chelmofox]

1 hour ago, J. James said:

Yeah Nacho and Ndidi are in the Nigeria squad (as is Lookman).

So no intensive work on tactics/roles will be going on in this break with him.

On the bench next game them for the both of them.

[lcfc sheff]

When will people learn. Doubt him at your peril. 

[Guest nathan.]

Never rated him.

 

Im hoping Cannon brings the cutting edge we need.

[Dahnsouff]

11 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said:

When will people learn. Doubt him at your peril. 

Assume when he consistently demonstrates to the contrary

[AjcW]

1 hour ago, lcfc sheff said:

When will people learn. Doubt him at your peril. 

What’s he going to do to me if I doubt him? One foot me to death? 

[J. James]

1 hour ago, nathan. said:

Never rated him.

 

Im hoping Cannon brings the cutting edge we need.

More likely to bring an explosive shot ... 😐

[Mickyblueeyes]

Kel has played his best football for us alongside another striker. He isn’t an out and out in the box sort of striker. Best example I can think of is the Sherringham type of striker. I just think he will struggle as long as we continue to play one.

[lcfc sheff]

11 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Assume when he consistently demonstrates to the contrary

 

10 hours ago, AjcW said:

What’s he going to do to me if I doubt him? One foot me to death? 

If there was a hall of shame you’d both be in it huns x 

[Dahnsouff]

1 hour ago, lcfc sheff said:

 

If there was a hall of shame you’d both be in it huns x 

Ah a slavering brainless follower, been a while since you have been required I guess.  
 

In all seriousness, he needs to start to deliver with at least assists, previous seasons don’t help as the requirements now are different

Edited 6 September 2023 by Dahnsouff

[Bazly]

Natcho is as good a provider as he is finisher which in recorded terms he is decent, though not anything more than that. With the arrival of Cannon from Everton it could be a opportunity to actually develop a front pair partnership not seen since the Vardy feeding Ulloa days.

[fuchsntf]

4 hours ago, Bazly said:

Natcho is as good a provider as he is finisher which in recorded terms he is decent, though not anything more than that. With the arrival of Cannon from Everton it could be a opportunity to actually develop a front pair partnership not seen since the Vardy feeding Ulloa days.

Even Vardy feeding Shinji, just Shinji didn’t take to European cuisine,other than the overhead pancakes..

[fuchsntf]

On 05/09/2023 at 01:15, STUHILL said:

We need to see a lot more from him, and the rest of the team to be honest. 

5 wins flattered us slightly, and there is no harm in admitting that. 

They have a solid 2 week break now, the window is closed, no more distractions. 

I have backed Nacho to do well and wanted him to stay, as did many others. 

If he doesn't deliver over the next 6-8months though, then there are no excuses left for him. 

Agree,but now with our flanks covered,IMO he should be staying in that CF imaginary square,and also not drift too far back..

He ( any no9) should be concentrating on creating,or picking up those loose balls,within the square or when spread out rectangle.He shouldn’t be tredding on others toes or in their space..

He must then find it easier to score…where for him the tight space opens up.

 

 

[Dahnsouff]

5 hours ago, Bazly said:

Natcho is as good a provider as he is finisher which in recorded terms he is decent, though not anything more than that. With the arrival of Cannon from Everton it could be an opportunity to actually develop a front pair partnership not seen since the Vardy feeding Ulloa days.

He is, my brain struggles to reconcile his capabilities I think he has, with what we see in matches. Don’t want to tread old ground, but could he start in place of a KDH or Wilf alongside a.n.other, as a very recessed forward?   

[Stadt]

The wingers are too wide and the 8s either aren’t good enough attackers, or, play close enough to him.

 

The move at Elland road last season is what he’s great at, in the current set up it just doesn’t happen because the other attackers are too wide/deep. 
 

Less structured play in the final 3rd lets Kel, Mavidi, Yunus/Abdul loose rather than trying to create via the perfect cutback every time 

Edited 7 September 2023 by Stadt