Would you be ok if this was our team?

[Munshi]

1 hour ago, fox_up_north said:

I think, for me, I can justify it as the owners are clearly engaged with our community. It's not quite the same as Saudia Arabia buying a club and putting their flag's colours on the team shirt. 

 

However, you raise a valid point that we should be able to ask questions of our owners and expect them to meet certain standards. For example, if there was an awareness campaign for a gay issue or something else, which many clubs take part in, I would expect us to do the same.

 

Though I also take your point about KP's links to the Thai rulers but I feel comfortable enough that a duty free airport business is different to an oil state. 

Irony is that our owners have done this just with King Power instead. 

[Lcfc098]

Our current owners have faced £327 million corruption charges in Thailand by the way 

[sacreblueits442]

32 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

 BEst example of actually showing Leicester fan,who gnaw the bone of us failing,to achieve aspirations of the “should ofs”

We competed ,challenged and rattled cages of the hardenned top 6,but those last few games,actually shown the gap between,ourselves our attempt to get over that

so near but so far Distant line,of completing those seasons last 10 games,against

these clubs.
 

Their mental aptitude and quality of their squad players when called upon “IS” way  higher than all fans give credit for. ( too early to cry shit) We fell off because our EOS, last 8-5 game push was just too much,ditto for other clubs who went before & after our top 4 drive.

Their, &  our squads holding until the ‘End of the line’  ability, just misses out on that last needed punch…More often and not it’s a lower level physical & mental tiredness…often through other teammates injuries ,they have lost that collectiveness adrenaline which we held onto that once,  in our title year..

Maybe Newcastles coffers have found a way to close that gap of highering their

squad alround nous and that extra mental strength when needed. Though we need to wait & see if they have players that can step into that extra  “outer limits”  of hope..Then..!! Find that consistency over more seasons of finding & picking up those high quality of player,allowing them to create that future special era..

 

Since our title win,ourselves & other “ also rans”

have shown what poor, ill-fated and lack of squad investment costs we hopefulls…6-10 years of proof,for those hitting early form and finding reasonable success but not getting over that coveted consistent top 4-6 line.
Arsenal,Chelsea, & Spurs will have their odd off season…

but they often return to roost…Ditto L’pool.

Just look at Manutd /Chelsea so called poor seasons & turmoils,they push for EOS

top 6 & finish more often than not  with a place in Europe….

Mental strengths from within club for their players to hold technical & physical strengths until that last kick of the season…

.. or just maybe, some people are better chasing than being chased, it is a totally different mindset!!!

 What made the 2015-16 team hold their nerve in that instance, what words of encouragement was the man in charge giving them. 

  In a long distance race and you are behind the leader, with the finishing line up ahead, all you can do is to stay as close as you can incase the leader falters. Every moment he fails to pull away from you encourages you more to push on. As the one in the lead, your focus becomes about not losing, you wonder how far the person is behind and every glance over your shoulder is an admission of fear and a shot in the arm for the person behind.

  You forget what it was that you did that got you into this position and to focus on what you can do and keep your rhythm.

  It wasn't for the lack of squad depth, why we failed to make the top4 two seasons running, we were and are mentally weak, and the man in charge is imbued with the same mental strength.

 

Edited 10 January 2023 by sacreblueits442
Spelling error.

[TJQuik]

Just now, Lcfc098 said:

Our current owners have faced £327 million corruption charges in Thailand by the way 

It's bad enough having them in. I'm consistent with my views, I've never had this weird relationship with the owners like they are the benevolent lord of us wee servants.

 

The fact remains that Qatar are far worse. And even if that wasn't the case, clubs should not be owned by countries to help their geopolitical aims. I'd argue that clubs should be owned by their fans, so it's already difficult to accept being the plaything of a billionaire. But being the de facto second national team of another country is about as far removed from the local community as you can get.

 

But even if you remove those points, I'd still be against it because I don't want to support a club that has bought its success. We're the best club in the world because we have the most amazing sporting achievement to our name, the basis of which was our lack of cheating through funnelling in money. It would tarnish that for me if we turned into just another super league team.

[HankMarvin]

It’s kinda irrelevant anyway as the investment is reported to be in  Spurs 

 

Qatari chiefs 'are plotting a £1bn investment in Tottenham' after PSG president Nasser Al-Khelaifi met Daniel Levy in London - despite Spurs chairman insisting they spoke as friends

[Guest]

Nah probably not. Whether it happened immediately or over a longer period of time it would cease to be the club I fell in love with and it's already sort of doing that anyway. I'm sure I'd maintain an interest for a year or two out of curiosity to see who we brought in with our billions but after that I'd probably become one of those weird general football fans who doesn't actually support anyone or, more likely, just find something else to do with my time altogether.

[sacreblueits442]

32 minutes ago, Lcfc098 said:

I’d be out with my Qatar flag on the streets if this happened. Not bothered about everyone on their moral high horse 

...I  do not think any team or set of supporters could ever emulate winning the league with the players that we had!!!

 It doesn't matter how many times United, Man. City, Liverpool  or Chelsea lift that trophy, ours was the ultimate achievement, they will never get that feeling of achievement. 

  Mahrez and Kante may have won more trophies,  but when they retire, it will not be how many champions league trophies that you have one, it will be, you were apart of that Leicester team that did the improbable.

 What exactly does football mean to you, if buying trophies are all you look for?

[CosbehFox]

1 hour ago, kingkisnorbo said:

Important to note that pretty much anyone able to buy or own a premier league club is never whiter than white. Definitely nuance to it mind. 

Looking a list of them - it's quite depressing. 2 and half clubs with ownership to someone who's an actual fan of the club. Well plus 10% for Parish/Palace 

[SemperEadem]

2 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Looking a list of them - it's quite depressing. 2 and half clubs with ownership to someone who's an actual fan of the club. Well plus 10% for Parish/Palace 

Palace, Brighton and who is the other?

[CosbehFox]

2 minutes ago, SemperEadem said:

Palace, Brighton and who is the other?

Sullivan at West Ham has a stake. 

[sacreblueits442]

..what would be the benefit of a £400bn company coming to buy this club!!!

  Would they be able to bully the FA to allow them to invest a sizeable warchest,  or would FFP not prevent any investment that was not attributed to commercial exploits. 

 I can understand the theory of investments under the guise of advertising a company's brand, but surely any attempt to directly finance on pitch development would not be allowed. If the wages to revenues was below the threshold,  then I can see the wriggle room, but we do not have that capacity, so how would a big fish help us.

 

[LCFCJohn]

I am already finding I am more and more done with football and Leicester. Even tonight I just have no interest in watching the game. I watched the one at the weekend as I thought it may be more fun being lower league opposition but it was still shit.

 

So moral high ground aside, I would be done if we were invested in by an oil state like Qatar as it would not be competitive football and the final nail in that.

 

I was speaking to a Newcastle supporting mate recently and I was commenting about some of the TV picks for the cups. Man Utd V Everton and Liverpool V Wolves were the ones that annoyed me. My point was I’d have rather seen Chesterfield v West Brom as it is the cup and we want cup upsets not the same old games we get week in week out in the league (I think in the 3rd round of the FA cup there should be no same league match ups on tv even Man City v Chelsea).

 

His response was na that’d be shit, Man Utd and Everton are better so they should be on.
 

And in a nutshell that is the problem now. So many ‘FIFA generation’ (and I’m only 30) who think football doesn’t exist outside the Premier League!

[fuchsntf]

1 hour ago, sacreblueits442 said:

.. or just maybe, some people are better chasing than being chased, it is a totally different mindset!!!

 What made the 2015-16 team hold their nerve in that instance, what words of encouragement was the man in charge giving them. 

  In a long distance race and you are behind the leader, with the finishing line up ahead, all you can do is to stay as close as you can incase the leader falters. Every moment he fails to pull away from you encourages you more to push on. As the one in the lead, your focus becomes about not losing, you wonder how far the person is behind and every glance over your shoulder is an admission of fear and a shot in the arm for the person behind.

  You forget what it was that you did that got you into this position and to focus on what you can do and keep your rhythm.

  It wasn't for the lack of squad depth, why we failed to make the top4 two seasons running, we were and are mentally weak, and the man in charge is imbued with the same mental strength.

 

Like 90 other managers…

There is only one manager,but in most PL clubs, 14-18players appertaining to

be PL quality players,and the others trying their best to have that chance….

Without being stoked how many have the balls to poke their heads above the parrapit..They like their soft plaudits & moments of grandeur,but few take it over and above decent competitiveness…top clubs do have , fetch or build & develope that pleasant  hate & arrogance within side their players , oppo fans appreciate,respect or despise…a bit like Marmite mythical characteriics.

Then add some decent techies & clever skill sets,including being like us a prat & knobheads high % of the time,but can hold for xx amount of 90 minutes an higher 

mental concentrated skills,accompanying their natural sporting ability.

Fans will easy Spin & sprinkle their plaudits,but just as quick to spit fire & brimstone,when their weekend pastime are regularly punctured ruined.

Only also rans ,have nice players, & nice legends, real top sides add that touch of

cruel ruthlessness…until the last kick of the season.

[KingsX]

 

https://thefightingcock.co.uk/forum/threads/qatar-holds-spurs-talks.47107/

[grobyfox1990]

35 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

I am already finding I am more and more done with football and Leicester. Even tonight I just have no interest in watching the game. I watched the one at the weekend as I thought it may be more fun being lower league opposition but it was still shit.

 

So moral high ground aside, I would be done if we were invested in by an oil state like Qatar as it would not be competitive football and the final nail in that.

 

I was speaking to a Newcastle supporting mate recently and I was commenting about some of the TV picks for the cups. Man Utd V Everton and Liverpool V Wolves were the ones that annoyed me. My point was I’d have rather seen Chesterfield v West Brom as it is the cup and we want cup upsets not the same old games we get week in week out in the league (I think in the 3rd round of the FA cup there should be no same league match ups on tv even Man City v Chelsea).

 

His response was na that’d be shit, Man Utd and Everton are better so they should be on.
 

And in a nutshell that is the problem now. So many ‘FIFA generation’ (and I’m only 30) who think football doesn’t exist outside the Premier League!

If you are only 30 you defo need to chill out more and enjoy things at face value, many decades ahead to get cynical, thoughtful and find deeper meaning to hate the fun things in life. But i agree with you on cup tv picks, Man u v Reading is a guaranteed next round. You can see why though, it will do multiple more ratings than guff like Chesterfield v West Brom 

[LCFCJohn]

10 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

If you are only 30 you defo need to chill out more and enjoy things at face value, many decades ahead to get cynical, thoughtful and find deeper meaning to hate the fun things in life. But i agree with you on cup tv picks, Man u v Reading is a guaranteed next round. You can see why though, it will do multiple more ratings than guff like Chesterfield v West Brom 

I don’t think I was suggesting that I don’t enjoy things or hate fun. Not sure why that is the impression you have got?

 

I quoted my age to highlight I am of the ‘FIFA generation’ but appreciate that football exists outside the top flight. And for me, FA cup 3rd round weekend is about Wrexham winning a thriller away at Coventry 3 leagues above, Stevenage coming back late to beat an Aston Villa side 3 leagues above away from home, Sheffield Wednesday beating moneybags Newcastle despite being 2 leagues below. And yeah, National League Chesterfield coming close to beating West Brom 3 leagues higher.

 

That is much more interesting to me than Man Utd against Everton or Reading (tbf Reading not so much) or other all premier leagues games. Just signifies how people forget the rest of the pyramid now because they see it as ‘guff’ in your own words. 

[grobyfox1990]

8 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

I don’t think I was suggesting that I don’t enjoy things or hate fun. Not sure why that is the impression you have got?

 

I quoted my age to highlight I am of the ‘FIFA generation’ but appreciate that football exists outside the top flight. And for me, FA cup 3rd round weekend is about Wrexham winning a thriller away at Coventry 3 leagues above, Stevenage coming back late to beat an Aston Villa side 3 leagues above away from home, Sheffield Wednesday beating moneybags Newcastle despite being 2 leagues below. And yeah, National League Chesterfield coming close to beating West Brom 3 leagues higher.

 

That is much more interesting to me than Man Utd against Everton or Reading (tbf Reading not so much) or other all premier leagues games. Just signifies how people forget the rest of the pyramid now because they see it as ‘guff’ in your own words. 

Football is an entirely discretionary hobby which is meant to be fun and enjoyed in our spare time, we spend enough time working and then doing mandatory crap like form filling, food shopping and flossing our teeth that we should find absolute enjoyment in your hobbies, if not change them. If you are 'more and more done' and have 'no interest in watching tonight' find something more fun to do, we are at an age where we can dive headfirst into multiple activities with little consequence. I've no interest in tonight so I'll go to squash but I'm psyched for Saturday. 

 

I am a huge fan of the PL but also a fan of football across the pyramid and the world. I have been to scores of matches not involving Leicester. But although that's interesting to me and you to watch, it isn't to the vast majority of the population which is proven by TV ratings and democracy rules. Until we can get our own TV channels we can't change that, so we can only switch the TV off. 

[Corky]

9 hours ago, phoneticerror said:

I’d much prefer our owners to not be Qatari, but I’m not going to overreact and suggest that I’d switch teams or stop going to matches, 

This is a big point. You may not want these people but you have no say if they take over and then have a dilemma as to whether to give something up you've done for most of your life and live in exile from the club for God knows how long whilst the league and authorities, who do have the power and ability to stop things happening, say "Yeah, come in, it's fine".

 

Boycotting is noble. But, honestly, would you want to give up Leicester for the rest of your time? Because the people you don't acknowledge could be here that long. 

[phoneticerror]

3 minutes ago, Corky said:

This is a big point. You may not want these people but you have no say if they take over and then have a dilemma as to whether to give something up you've done for most of your life and live in exile from the club for God knows how long whilst the league and authorities, who do have the power and ability to stop things happening, say "Yeah, come in, it's fine".

 

Boycotting is noble. But, honestly, would you want to give up Leicester for the rest of your time? Because the people you don't acknowledge could be here that long. 

Boycotting won’t really make a difference either. It’s noble as you say, but if you’ve supported a team since a child, you can’t just turn that off.

Edited 10 January 2023 by phoneticerror

[kingkisnorbo]

“I wouldn’t be happy about it but I’d keep going anyway” speaks volumes about us as a fan base and the modern fan in general. 

[TJQuik]

25 minutes ago, Corky said:

This is a big point. You may not want these people but you have no say if they take over and then have a dilemma as to whether to give something up you've done for most of your life and live in exile from the club for God knows how long whilst the league and authorities, who do have the power and ability to stop things happening, say "Yeah, come in, it's fine".

 

Boycotting is noble. But, honestly, would you want to give up Leicester for the rest of your time? Because the people you don't acknowledge could be here that long. 

The league and authorities are well known for their moral clarity aren't they?

 

I don't care if it makes no difference, the only way it stops is the government getting involved, and since they are there to serve the rich there's not much chance of that happening. I would just lose interest, and I think a not insignificant number of people also would

[Samilktray]

We might finally end up with half decent kits so it’s a yes from me 

[Foxdiamond]

2 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

I am already finding I am more and more done with football and Leicester. Even tonight I just have no interest in watching the game. I watched the one at the weekend as I thought it may be more fun being lower league opposition but it was still shit.

 

So moral high ground aside, I would be done if we were invested in by an oil state like Qatar as it would not be competitive football and the final nail in that.

 

I was speaking to a Newcastle supporting mate recently and I was commenting about some of the TV picks for the cups. Man Utd V Everton and Liverpool V Wolves were the ones that annoyed me. My point was I’d have rather seen Chesterfield v West Brom as it is the cup and we want cup upsets not the same old games we get week in week out in the league (I think in the 3rd round of the FA cup there should be no same league match ups on tv even Man City v Chelsea).

 

His response was na that’d be shit, Man Utd and Everton are better so they should be on.
 

And in a nutshell that is the problem now. So many ‘FIFA generation’ (and I’m only 30) who think football doesn’t exist outside the Premier League!

It does make laugh the idea that a game between 2 top flight sides would always be a better match than say Chesterfield  v WBA. There have plenty of rubbish games predicted as a star fest. As you say some people need to look further afield 

[jonathan_ross]

4 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

It’s kinda irrelevant anyway as the investment is reported to be in  Spurs 

 

Qatari chiefs 'are plotting a £1bn investment in Tottenham' after PSG president Nasser Al-Khelaifi met Daniel Levy in London - despite Spurs chairman insisting they spoke as friends

Are the investors unaware that even 1 billion won’t help spurs lift a trophy.

[LCFCJohn]

1 hour ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Football is an entirely discretionary hobby which is meant to be fun and enjoyed in our spare time, we spend enough time working and then doing mandatory crap like form filling, food shopping and flossing our teeth that we should find absolute enjoyment in your hobbies, if not change them. If you are 'more and more done' and have 'no interest in watching tonight' find something more fun to do, we are at an age where we can dive headfirst into multiple activities with little consequence. I've no interest in tonight so I'll go to squash but I'm psyched for Saturday. 

 

I am a huge fan of the PL but also a fan of football across the pyramid and the world. I have been to scores of matches not involving Leicester. But although that's interesting to me and you to watch, it isn't to the vast majority of the population which is proven by TV ratings and democracy rules. Until we can get our own TV channels we can't change that, so we can only switch the TV off. 

Agree with what you say. And that’s what I mean that I’m choosing to do other things instead whereas previously Leicester would have been a cause of planning around. Having a 5 week old baby provides a distraction too!

 

I get what you’re saying about viewing figures and you are right of course. I guess my point is that is sad, but it is a symptom of the super league generation.

 

I’m not sure how much of my apathy is down to football in general (such as the original point of this thread) and how much is down to Leicester anyway!