How Lucky We Are

[pmcla26]

23 hours ago, Hammo said:

I was sorting out a health insurance quote with a broker on the phone the other day and when he saw where I lived, he went: “Leicestershire? You wouldn’t be a Leicester City fan, would you?”

 

I told him I was a season ticket holder. After an “oh my god” he spent roughly the next ten minutes branching off topic to tell me how envious he was, how I must be living the dream, how lucky I was, how our successes were an inspiration to other clubs of our size etc etc.

 

When he had finished I was positively glowing, but he hadn’t said who he supported. So I asked him.

 

When he told me, I just had to give him my business.

 

“Southampton” the poor bastard muttered.

 

 

Must be particularly hard for Saints' fans, considering they got so close to winning the League Cup, been in the Semi-Finals a few times and were fighting for Europe, all for it to fall away. 

Edited 14 February 2023 by Pete52

[Swalshed]

4 hours ago, The boy Linacre said:

ONLY Man Utd, Chelsea, Man C, Liverpool & Arsenal have won more trophies than us since the year 2000, making us 5th

We're 7th on top 6 finishes since 2010 with 3

A European Quarter final & Semi final, when prior to that we hadn't got past the 2nd round EVER & qualified rarely

Villa 7 titles 1 European cup no trophy since 1996, Everton 9 titles no trophy since 1995, Leeds 3 titles no trophy since 1992, Newcastle 4 titles no trophy since 1969, Forest 1 Title 2 EC's no trophy since 1990, Tottenham 2 titles no trophy since 2008, West Ham no trophy since 1975, Wolves 3 titles no trophy since 1980

Teams with real foot league 

Only Wigan & Portsmouth FA Cup outliers & look where they are now

Only Swansea, Blackburn, Middlesbrough,  Birmingham League Cup outliers & look where they are now.

Between 1959 & 1972 12 different clubs won the title, between 1982 & now i.e. 41 years, 9 clubs have won the title including us, IT IS SO MUCH HARDER TO WIN THE LEAGUE OR EVEN CHALLENGE, a 1st & 2 5THS

12 is our record for consecutive years in the top flight, we are currently on 9 and looking stronger for it now to be 10.

10 years of the best years of our supporting lives!!!!

 

Thanks. Great stats there. And will help the lyrical accuracy of our popular chant "xx years, and you've won f' all!"

😄👍

[Stevosevic]

In the PL era, only Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, Manchester City and Manchester United have won more trophies.

 

Thats a substantial slice of time in football history. 

[Guest Fox99]

LCFC, Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City and Liverpool - the current five clubs to have won the Premier League, FA Cup and League Cup in the 21st century. For me, it's a balance between appreciating successes but not settling for them. Definitely don't subscribe to the “we were once in League One” stuff, although I can accept the seven year rise from third tier to PL champions is quite something. It's why I've had an issue with some of what BR has said during his time here, sometimes he makes comments which are more like it but then he's had this tendancy to downplay the club etc. On the UECL, yes it was our first European semi-final but we were only in that competition because we fell out of the UEL which wasn't the plan - even I'll admit though that's maybe OTT.

Edited 14 February 2023 by AlexFT

[SystonFox]

8 hours ago, Sampson said:

Only won the PL, Championship, League One, FA Cup, League Cup and Community Shield.

 

Still missing the League Two and Johnstones Paint trophies to be fair 

Champions of league two. We’ll never sing that

[FLINTHAMFC]

16 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Next year will be my 30th year of watching Leicester City.

 

In that time I've seen us win:

 

2 League Cups

League One

The Championship

The ACTUAL PREMIER LEAGUE

The FA Cup

The Community Shield

 

I've seen us play in the Champions League, Europa League and a Europa Conference League semi-final.

 

I would not swap my club with any other club. EVER.

You forgot winning two play off finals. 

 

That could be the winner from Claridge......it is!

[Nalis]

I honesty thought we'd be stuck in League 1 for years like Sunderland or Leeds when we went down.

[SystonFox]

3 hours ago, Nalis said:

I honesty thought we'd be stuck in League 1 for years like Sunderland or Leeds when we went down.

I think we learnt a lot from Leeds and Notts Forest who went down at those kinds times and spent 3 years each trying to get out. This is when our club really started its upward spiral. Yes a lot happened between. Pearson, Panenkas against Cardiff, Allez les Bleus, Deeney Day etc.

 

supporting this club has been unreal. I still get teary at times watching the pre match video on those big screens

[whetstonefox]

It would be nice to make another FA Cup final with a full capacity, and win obviously. I was one of the lucky ones to get to Wembley in 2021, imagine how amazing it would be to see us win it in front of 90,000.

[Mark_w]

29 minutes ago, SystonFox said:

I think we learnt a lot from Leeds and Notts Forest who went down at those kinds times and spent 3 years each trying to get out. This is when our club really started its upward spiral. Yes a lot happened between. Pearson, Panenkas against Cardiff, Allez les Bleus, Deeney Day etc.

 

supporting this club has been unreal. I still get teary at times watching the pre match video on those big screens

I don't think we learned anything from Leeds or Forest, we were just very lucky that we landed on Pearson. That we were inviting Paulo Sousa, who insists on a style of play that the squad we had was completely incapable of playing, to the play-off games the season after and then happened to appoint him as our manager that summer suggests to me that there just wasn't any forward planning behind the scenes at that point. We were so poorly run for so long before Pearson as well.

Doesn't bear thinking about where we might be if Southampton had decided to keep him that summer.

Edited 13 February 2023 by Mark_w

[grobyfox1990]

6 hours ago, Hammo said:

I was sorting out a health insurance quote with a broker on the phone the other day and when he saw where I lived, he went: “Leicestershire? You wouldn’t be a Leicester City fan, would you?”

 

I told him I was a season ticket holder. After an “oh my god” he spent roughly the next ten minutes branching off topic to tell me how envious he was, how I must be living the dream, how lucky I was, how our successes were an inspiration to other clubs of our size etc etc.

 

When he had finished I was positively glowing, but he hadn’t said who he supported. So I asked him.

 

When he told me, I just had to give him my business.

 

“Southampton” the poor bastard muttered.

 

 

The one shred of comfort they have and something I’ve slightly envious of is their europa league group in 2016. Inter Milan, Prague and hapoel beer Sheva. Three brilliant away games, I would’ve particularly loved the game in Israel 

[Mr Weller 2]

10 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Without Nigel Pearson none of it would have happened.

 

To build the club up on and off the pitch he did was unbelivable.

 

The best thing this ownership ever did was get Pearson back from Hull and then stick with him.

Fantasy- he was okay but that’s it. Our Thai owners transformed the club and continue to do so.

[Guy]

1 hour ago, Mark_w said:

I don't think we learned anything from Leeds or Forest, we were just very lucky that we landed on Pearson. That we were inviting Paulo Sousa, who insists on a style of play that the squad we had was completely incapable of playing, to the play-off games the season after and then happened to appoint him as our manager that summer suggests to me that there just wasn't any forward planning behind the scenes at that point. We were so poorly run for so long before Pearson as well.

Doesn't bear thinking about where we might be if Southampton had decided to keep him that summer.

You can't help but think it was written in the stars and that big Nige was about the only decent thing and appointment Madaric did/made for LCFC whilst our owner!

[Fox92]

8 hours ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

Fantasy- he was okay but that’s it. Our Thai owners transformed the club and continue to do so.

Incorrect. If the owners transformed the club then why didn’t we get promoted with Sousa or Sven?

 

We must be the only fan base that seems to put owners at the forefront of everything. Yes they back managers but it’s the managers that pick the team and players that do it on the pitch.
 

And before these owners Nigel Pearson won us League One, and then with near enough the same team (which wasn’t strong enough for the Championship on paper) finished in the top 6 the following season. Pearson had already turned the club around before the owners and we would have gone up with or without the owners, as long as Pearson was manager.

 

Pearson transformed the club to what it is today. Thats why the likes of Kasper and Morgan still reiterative it.

Edited 14 February 2023 by Fox92

[Tommy Fresh]

8 hours ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

Fantasy- he was okay but that’s it. Our Thai owners transformed the club and continue to do so.

Funnily enough Pearson transformed it before they became owners. 

[Mark_w]

8 hours ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

Fantasy- he was okay but that’s it. Our Thai owners transformed the club and continue to do so.

 

I don’t understand how anyone who has followed us throughout can have taken in so little of what was happening.

[Sampson]

Yeah. Pearson brought in all the data analysis, scouting and medical staff when we were in League One, before our owners were even here.

 

Before that we were a very old fashioned English football club still living off Martin O’Neill’s ideas that sports science and analysis is a waste of time and man management would get you through.

 

The game was leaving those ideas behind though. Pearson turned us kicking and screaming into a modern football club with modern ideas and infrastructure. This was before the owners were even here 

[fuchsntf]

14 hours ago, AlexFT said:

LCFC, Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City and Liverpool - the current five clubs to have won the Premier League, FA Cup and League Cup in the 21st century. For me, it's a balance between appreciating successes but not settling for them. Definitely don't subscribe to the “we were once in League One” stuff, although I can accept the seven year rise from third tier to PL champions is quite something. It's why I've had an issue with some of what BR has said during his time here, sometimes he makes comments which are more like it but then he's had this tendancy to downplay the club etc. On the UECL, yes it was our first European semi-final but we were only in that competition because we fell out of the UEL which wasn't the plan - even I'll admit though that's maybe OTT.

We have unfortunately financial restraints that will prevent us always hitting the high notes consistency...

That what also must be projacted...

And sport doesn't go to plan...

So one as to be mature,wise enough to understand our clubs highs n lows will be more erratic...

[fuchsntf]

1 hour ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Funnily enough Pearson transformed it before they became owners. 

It was a Partnership that was needed..

One without the other,would not of sown the seeds for that period...

[worth_the_wait]

55 minutes ago, Sampson said:

Yeah. Pearson brought in all the data analysis, scouting and medical staff when we were in League One, before our owners were even here.

 

Before that we were a very old fashioned English football club still living off Martin O’Neill’s ideas that sports science and analysis is a waste of time and man management would get you through.

 

The game was leaving those ideas behind though. Pearson turned us kicking and screaming into a modern football club with modern ideas and infrastructure. This was before the owners were even here 

 

I think that's a little simplistic, and misses an extremely important point.

 

Martin O'Neill and Nigel Pearson both understood the crucial importance of "man management", and making sure that players they brought to the club, had the right mental attributes of discipline, strength, leadership etc.  

 

If you look at the teams that MON and NP left behind, they both were full of strong characters.   And that's something that no amount of statistics and number crunching is going to tell you.   It's something that's sadly been falling by the wayside in recent years, but it's as important now, as it was 50 years ago.

[Manley Farrington-Brown]

15 hours ago, AlexFT said:

LCFC, Chelsea, Man Utd, Man City and Liverpool - the current five clubs to have won the Premier League, FA Cup and League Cup in the 21st century.

A pedant writes:

 

Technically we haven't won the League Cup in the 21st century; we won the last League Cup of the 20th century...

[Manley Farrington-Brown]

15 hours ago, SystonFox said:

Champions of league two. We’ll never sing that

Never say never.

[Manley Farrington-Brown]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

10 hours ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

Fantasy- he was okay but that’s it. Our Thai owners transformed the club and continue to do so.

Incorrect. If the owners transformed the club then why didn’t we get promoted with Sousa or Sven?

This argument is ridiculous.

It doesn't have to be (and isn't, and can't be) one or the other. It can be (and is) perfectly possible and correct to say that both Nigel Pearson and the owners made a crucial difference.

[Tommy Fresh]

2 minutes ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said:

This argument is ridiculous.

It doesn't have to be (and isn't, and can't be) one or the other. It can be (and is) perfectly possible and correct to say that both Nigel Pearson and the owners made a crucial difference.

I think the point the second post is getting at is the original one stating Pearson wasn't that influential and it was all the owners. So he's just provided an example of how it quite clearly wasn't just them.

[Bert]

On 13/02/2023 at 07:13, Ric Flair said:

We're the most ridiculous club there's ever been.

With some of the most ridiculous fan base, for various reasons