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StanSP

Our Next Manager

By StanSP, in Leicester City Forum

Leicester's Next Manager   

841 members have voted

  1. 1. Leicester's Next Manager

    • Ange Postecoglou
      41
    • Rafa Benitez
      116
    • Graham Potter
      366
    • Michael Carrick
      35
    • Ralph Hassenhuttl
      43
    • Thomas Frank
      109
    • Other (state who)
      131

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Tuna

Tuna

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I don't get the surprise - it's an appointment that is completely on brand for King Power/Rudkin post Pearson.

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Jordan

Jordan

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2 minutes ago, TK95 said:

Red Bull gives you wingers

And then Marsch tells them to stay in the middle of the pitch 

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STUHILL

STUHILL

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Like I said earlier, I get the feeling Marsch is good at impressing in interviews with his high energy and passion for his style, however, I personally believe that his style is not what we need right now, and actually, I don't think it will ever work well in the Premier League, hence his 2 wins in 17 with an OK Leeds side. 

We are taking someone to save us from relegation, who was relegating another team just months ago. Crazy IMO. 

 

I am all for let's get behind anyone and I will of course, but I still think this could end up going very badly, unless we get the new manager bounce, that nearly anyone is capable of. Sometimes, just a change helps. That is what I am hoping for anyway.

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themightyfin

themightyfin

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3 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I think it’s clear, Top hasn’t a single clue what he’s doing.

 

But I’m sure we will get a free beer to soften the blow. 

Root beer 🍺 

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Guest Lcfc82

Guest Lcfc82

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Hopefully we are talking to other candidates as well as Marsch.
This would be an awful appointment, I’d soon us appoint 9-0 Ralph than Marsch.

RoboFox

RoboFox

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6 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

I think it’s clear, Top hasn’t a single clue what he’s doing.

 

But I’m sure we will get a free beer to soften the blow. 

Bud Light. :cheers:

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South Shire Fox

South Shire Fox

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33 minutes ago, Tuna said:

Puel who saved us from relegation and revamped the squad with quality signings?

Saved us from relegation? He was appointed 2 months into the season.😂 Then his only full season was some of the most boring, shite football weve seen in years. Bloke was absolutley despised 

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fox_favourite

fox_favourite

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1 minute ago, South Shire Fox said:

Saved us from relegation? He was appointed 2 months into the season.😂 Then his only full season was some of the most boring, shite football weve seen in years. Bloke was absolutley despised 

Football was drab, however he did carry us through the darkest time with the loss of Mr chairman. He gets massive plaudits from me for that. And to be fair, he made some good signings.

Pliskin

Pliskin

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Do you reckon the board sit in meetings and when they suspect we’re getting aggy, they just throw free beers and cake at us? But like a crying baby? They know the majority will claim their freebie and be quiet…. #bestrunclubintheworld #bestownersever

Tuna

Tuna

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4 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

Saved us from relegation? He was appointed 2 months into the season.😂 Then his only full season was some of the most boring, shite football weve seen in years. Bloke was absolutley despised 

We didn't go down did we? Bloke did the job he was hired to do.

Mickyblueeyes

Mickyblueeyes

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For Top, it’s a big one. He’s got to get this right. Same for Rudkin/Whelan. You can’t keep making decisions that cost the value of your protect and get away with it. 

 

I don’t know how to feel about it. It seems a major downgrade in where we were 4 years ago. Essentially means the business has been a failure. I felt the same way when we hired Ranieri. No pressure Jessi

themightyfin

themightyfin

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2 minutes ago, Tuna said:

We didn't go down did we? Bloke did the job he was hired to do.

Not really he got sacked. You don't get the sack if your doing everything your supposed to do 

Tielemans63

Tielemans63

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1 hour ago, LeedsW5 said:

Guys, Leeds fan in peace here - let me tell you about Jesse Marsch. 

 

First of all, he wasn't onto a hiding to nothing coming in after Bielsa. Yes, we loved Bielsa because of his achievements with us and the amazing football, but most Leeds fans could see it wasn't working by the time he went. There was an open mind and a willingness to see what he could do. 

 

The problem we'd had under Bielsa was three-fold. First, he wanted a tiny squad. We entered last season with 18 senior pros on the books, which meant that when we got injuries (and we got loads) we simply didn't have the squad depth to cover them. Second, we relied on certain players - mainly Bamford and Phillips - to make the system work. With them out, we found ourselves losing the ball a lot more and conceding a lot more goals. Third, Bielsa refused to change. In games needing crucial points he'd go out guns blazing, kids in crucial positions rather than adapt to the players he had available. And this resulted in some pretty hefty defeats, which led to his sacking. Throughout this period we'd had no problems scoring goals, we'd just been conceding far too many of them. 

 

So in comes Jesse Marsch. His first game (away at you guys) he abandons the man-for-man marking system, marks up zonally at set pieces and operates a far more RB-style trap press, letting you play into certain areas before springing to win the ball back. But the attack he leaves alone, and it is probably the best performance of his entire tenure. Barnes nicks a goal for you guys and we lose 1-0, but a game we'd dominated and deserved all three points. 

 

From this point on, he sets about dismantling the way we attack. Our attack which had looked incisive ahead of a shaky defence falls to pieces, and the defence doesn't improve massively as he implements his RB system. We are very lucky to nick a last-minute winner at home to Norwich, and have Raul Jimenez getting sent off to thank for three points at Molineux. We get three lucky draws against Saints, Palace and Brighton. Wins against Watford and Brentford on the final day are deserved to keep us up. But throughout this there is no clear upward trajectory in performances, in defensive solidity or in attacking output. Instead we seem to just get some of the luck we'd missed in the first half of the season and nick some results

 

Which brings us to this season, and the full implementation of Marschball. 

 

Essentially, it's no more complicated than this:

  • Stay narrow to stop the opponent playing through the middle
  • Press the oppo into losing the ball to create chances
  • Pass direct to goal (i.e. forwards through the middle) with as few touches as possible. 

You'll not that there is no plan to use the wings to attack, or to break down a defense while in possession. This is by design - under Marschball these things just don't happen. Which makes it very easy to defend against, as you just defend narrow and sit in behind the ball, playing on the break. This makes the system incredibly ineffective against teams willing to do just that - i.e. the entire bottom half of the PL. We've regularly had situations this year of 4 or 5 players stood around within 5 yards of the ball, all nonplussed as to what they should be doing because there is no attacking plan to speak of when a Marschball team is in possession. This is also why some of our better performances (Arsenal home, Spurs away, Liverpool away) have been against better teams than ourselves who will try and play through the Marsch press, and oftentimes get stuck in it. 

 

This is also by design, because the RB system was designed to make Salzburg and Leipzig competitive in the Champions League / Bundesliga while competing largely against teams they could simply outspend. You beat Bochum by having a squad worth 400 million euros, not by on-pitch tactics, those are reserved for Dortmund, Bayern and the Champions League. The problem is that in the EPL the quality is a lot higher - both of players and coaches - meaning not only can you not just financially outgun most of your league, but higher-up coaches will spot the way to break the RB system and take it, which is exactly what Brentford did both times we played them, as did you earlier this season. 

 

Marsch was very lucky not to be sacked earlier this season after we were beaten by Fulham at home in an awful performance, but kept his job after fluking an away win at Anfield and a mad-dash home win against Bournemouth, which should have got him the sack for the manner of the performance against the worst team in the league. When he actually was sacked, after a 1-0 defeat at Forest in which we struggled to create anything at all, it was to the widespread relief of the entire fanbase because there was absolutely no doubt that he was taking us down. 

 

What would Marsch at Leicester look like? Well I don't see how Maddison fits into his system, or Barnes, or most of your squad really. And I don't think his 'system' will work any better at Leicester than it has at Leeds, Man Utd or Southampton, or any of the other clubs where unreconstructed Rangnick disciplines have coached recently. It's a system out of its time and those coaches that have made it work to a certain degree - Klopp, Tuchel, Nagelsmann, Rose - have moved away from it to a more possession-based system of management. Marsh at some points looked like he was starting to understand this, but it's like he's a novice manager working out that not everything Ralf Rangnick is true and he needs to work out some new ideas - but has no clue where to start. 

 

Appoint Marsch now and you may survive this season, but you are without a doubt down next season (probably after sacking him, leaving you in a worse place). He's not a good manager and I wouldn't wish him on any club in the league, except perhaps Chelsea and Manure. 

 

 

Cheers mate. I used to live in Leeds and have a few friends there. They have nothing positive to say about him. Seems an utterly ludicrous appointment to me.

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Tuna

Tuna

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3 minutes ago, themightyfin said:

Not really he got sacked. You don't get the sack if your doing everything your supposed to do 

That was in his second season.

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