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Guest Basildon Fox

Time for big Nige to return and save us again!

By Guest Basildon Fox, in Leicester City Forum

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MrLuke

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I’m all for it. Yeah, he’s not perfect, but he instilled a proper togetherness in that team. They were also insanely fit and hardworking, two things we absolutely are not at this moment.

 

I don’t think a high profile appointment is what the club needs at the moment, it’s a pragmatic one. And as some people have already said, the club appear too shortsighted to go for an up and coming coach, and a bigger name probably won’t be interested. NP is a safe bet in my opinion, though perhaps not one to bring immediate success. 

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eblair

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Just now, Superjack said:

Happy here. Already said it.

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/leicester-city-nigel-pearson-manager-8327631

I really like your football club and your fans; and don’t think it will happen.

 

But were Nige to be offered part 3 of the trilogy at the club he built into the finest in England, I think he’d come back. I think it might end in disaster, but he would really struggle to turn it down imo 

 

This is his club. 

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urban fox

urban fox

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Really do not get this love in for Pearson. Yes he did a great job for us in div.1 and championship but never proven at pl level. He did a lot in laying the foundations for the sports science, fitness and analytical depts but all that was over 10 years ago.

Hardly any of the current playing or coaching staff were around during his time here and the club has moved on. It's time some of the fans did.

He is not the only great manager we had in the past, matt gillies, Jimmy Broomfield,  Martin o'Neil, to name a few but none of them are coming back either.

What we need is a young, energetic forward thinker who is in tune with the modern game and players. Someone perhaps like Carrick.

It is time for a new erag and a new start, not to keep harping back to the past

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dylanlegend

dylanlegend

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Just now, urban fox said:

Really do not get this love in for Pearson. Yes he did a great job for us in div.1 and championship but never proven at pl level. He did a lot in laying the foundations for the sports science, fitness and analytical depts but all that was over 10 years ago.

Hardly any of the current playing or coaching staff were around during his time here and the club has moved on. It's time some of the fans did.

He is not the only great manager we had in the past, matt gillies, Jimmy Broomfield,  Martin o'Neil, to name a few but none of them are coming back either.

What we need is a young, energetic forward thinker who is in tune with the modern game and players. Someone perhaps like Carrick.

It is time for a new erag and a new start, not to keep harping back to the past

News for you pal… we ain’t in the Prem anymore.

 

Don’t get the love in? 
 

My thoughts:

1. We are in need of a complete re-build. Something he has done before and is currently doing at Bristol City on a lower budget.


2. Why risk other managers who are ‘up and coming’? When has this ever worked well for us? Also if they are ‘up and coming’ they are more likely to jump ship if we get promoted anyway.

 

3. We need consistency and a strong character - He has excellent nan management skills- all players speak very highly of him. 


4. He previously laid the foundations not only of us getting promotion but building the team / squad for our greatest ever achievement.

 

5. He’s a straight talker not a bullshitter like most modern managers 

 

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Guest Basildon Fox

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6 minutes ago, don_danbury said:

he took over 2 years to sort the squad out back in 2012. it's going to take much longer for him to sort this mess out

Then it will take anybody that time.  Surely this is another reason to get him in.

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don_danbury

don_danbury

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4 minutes ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said:

Then it will take anybody that time.  Surely this is another reason to get him in.

10 years has passed and will not have walsh or shakey with him. cant see it working 

KingsX

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The real question is:  Do you think we have enough to climb back up by adding to what we have, while we still have a few pounds?  Or must we tear it down to the studs and take our sweet time rebuilding?

 

Pearson is always going to identify players with character and ditch the rest.  But while the players worth keeping will love him, that’s not enough.  He will not attract potentially elite talent.  For that he needs Walsh-quality recruitment.  We don’t have that today. 

 

Burnley have shown a way forward.  They were on a Sunderland-style chute to League 1.  But they threw everything at a young manager killing it at Anderlecht, and managed to align recruitment around him.  It’s critical that Kompany pulled in excellent young players who otherwise wouldn’t have signed for Burnley on what little they could afford.  He coached a style of football they wanted to play.  He preached a quick jump to the Premier League.  And his name sprinkled stardust.

 

If you’re deep in the doldrums, you need a slow builder, and NGP is high on your list.  But nowadays, if you’re freshly down and have quality remnants of your PL squad -- with parachute payments, you get a couple of years.  You simply must get back up to the League where 17th-place money will be triple your third-year Championship income.  In this era, not many clubs come back up after three or more years down.

 

So find a young, energetic manager who is already building a name with sound, exciting football.

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Guest Basildon Fox

Guest Basildon Fox

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3 minutes ago, don_danbury said:

10 years has passed and will not have walsh or shakey with him. cant see it working 

But he is already doing the same change with Bristol City on a much lower budget in the same division we are in now.  Shakey is already here.  There is absolutely no reason why they would not work together again.

 

Why can you not see it working?

 

 

Guest Basildon Fox

Guest Basildon Fox

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2 minutes ago, KingsX said:

The real question is:  Do you think we have enough to climb back up by adding to what we have, while we still have a few pounds?  Or must we tear it down to the studs and take our sweet time rebuilding?

 

Pearson is always going to identify players with character and ditch the rest.  But while the players worth keeping will love him, that’s not enough.  He will not attract potentially elite talent.  For that he needs Walsh-quality recruitment.  We don’t have that today. 

 

Burnley have shown a way forward.  They were on a Sunderland-style chute to League 1.  But they threw everything at a young manager killing it at Anderlecht, and managed to align recruitment around him.  It’s critical that Kompany pulled in excellent young players who otherwise wouldn’t have signed for Burnley on what little they could afford.  He coached a style of football they wanted to play.  He preached a quick jump to the Premier League.  And his name sprinkled stardust.

 

If you’re deep in the doldrums, you need a slow builder, and NGP is high on your list.  But nowadays, if you’re freshly down and have quality remnants of your PL squad -- with parachute payments, you get a couple of years.  You simply must get back up to the League where 17th-place money will be triple your third-year Championship income.  In this era, not many clubs come back up after three or more years down.

 

So find a young, energetic manager who is already building a name with sound, exciting football.

And how would the young, energetic manager attract potentially elite talent better than Pearson?  I do not really understand the thinking behind this as they will still have to work with Glover and a DOF (hopefully someone different to Rudkin) to get new people in.

 

We are going to lose half the squad anyway, possibly more.  There will be a job just to get a full squad out for the first game of the season, let alone challenge for the top of the league.

 

We played some of the most dominating football I have seen Leicester play under NP the season we won this division and got over 100 points.

dylanlegend

dylanlegend

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22 minutes ago, don_danbury said:

10 years has passed and will not have walsh or shakey with him. cant see it working 

Retain Shakey / Terry and pay the monies to get Walsh back 

Jamie Vard-on

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2 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Short memories hey

You’re probably right. 
Now James Pearson is retired, Pearson could return unscathed. His appointment at Leuven would suggest the Thai owners and Nige are on better terms, and him leaving was probably more about optics. 
 

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KingsX

KingsX

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13 minutes ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said:

And how would the young, energetic manager attract potentially elite talent better than Pearson?  I do not really understand the thinking behind this as they will still have to work with Glover and a DOF (hopefully someone different to Rudkin) to get new people in.

 

Um, that's my whole point -- that an exciting managerial appointment can lift recruitment.  That was ****ing Burnley -- who-wants-to-play-there, dead-broke Burnley -- who brought in the squad that destroyed the Championship.  They brought in an attractive name and let him use his contacts and powers of persuasion to attract kids who would otherwise have pissed on the very idea of Burnley. 

 

Yes, Rudkin could screw things up even if we named Pep Guardiola.  But he'd end up in Pearson's way too.

 

16 minutes ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said:

We played some of the most dominating football I have seen Leicester play under NP the season we won this division

 

NP got that dominating football out of Walsh's players.  Bristol City have a couple of exciting talents, but they didn't go there specifically to work for Pearson.  And you may have noticed their midtable finish in his second year?

 

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Jamie Vard-on

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I’d honestly welcome Nige back.

Not glamorous. Not exciting. But an honourable man, who is known for cutting fat and bringing people down to earth.

’We are where we are’ (urgh), and Nigel is on our level. He’ll never make us ‘Top 6’ - but right now, I just want to feel like there someone in charge who isn’t totally full of crap.

 

He’ll never come back though.

Guest Basildon Fox

Guest Basildon Fox

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19 minutes ago, KingsX said:

 

Um, that's my whole point -- that an exciting managerial appointment can lift recruitment.  That was ****ing Burnley -- who-wants-to-play-there, dead-broke Burnley -- who brought in the squad that destroyed the Championship.  They brought in an attractive name and let him use his contacts and powers of persuasion to attract kids who would otherwise have pissed on the very idea of Burnley. 

 

Yes, Rudkin could screw things up even if we named Pep Guardiola.  But he'd end up in Pearson's way too.

 

 

NP got that dominating football out of Walsh's players.  Bristol City have a couple of exciting talents, but they didn't go there specifically to work for Pearson.  And you may have noticed their midtable finish in his second year?

 

With a much lower budget than he would have if he were to come here.  See how much he is loved by the Bristol City fans.

 

Walsh's players blah, blah blah.  Do you think that he had no say in the type of player and character he wanted at the club?

 

With regards to Rudkin, surely it is even more imperative that we have somebody who has experience in dealing with that fool?

coolhandfox

coolhandfox

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1 hour ago, Zaphod Beeblebrox said:

But he is already doing the same change with Bristol City on a much lower budget in the same division we are in now.  Shakey is already here.  There is absolutely no reason why they would not work together again.

 

Why can you not see it working?

 

 

Taken him 2.5 seasons to get Bristol City 14th. 

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