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59 minutes ago, Reg Vardy said:

Goalkeeper plays the way the Manager wans/instructs……buck stops there….

I feel for the man.... gets all of the blame but none of the credit !

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I'm always the first to demand more credit for goalkeepers. And I'm fine with allowing the odd mistake.

 

He's doing the hard stuff very well, but the frequency of mistakes is a concern. It's definitely more than I'm sure he'd expect from himself.

 

He'll need to iron that out of his game if he's going to make the top level. He does still have some time on his side.

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His mistake was down to the way the manager is asking him to play. It was terrible but I don’t really blame him for it and doesn’t make him a bad keeper at all 

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2 hours ago, Angus Scott said:

I can't believe Jacob is getting criticised on here. Ok yesterday's goal was a nightmare but it was inevitably going to happen as he's not great with his feet & this scenario has happened with loads of goalkeepers since this ridiculous idea of trying to turn goalkeepers into world class midfield players.

The best way to avoid this happening again (because it will) is to not do it. Just knock it long, I know we won't win many but ensure we pick up the knockdowns, that way we'll have possession near the halfway line.

Jacob is a very promising keeper, a very good shot stopper & the most commanding of his penalty area that we have had for some time. The idea of buying someone to replace him is ludicrous, especially given our financial situation.

As I post this I've just seen the goal Spurs conceded. This way of playing is crazy, it just creates unnecessary pressure

Not even that, just play sensible possession build up - the passes go wide to the full backs not into the defensive midfielder.

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I can laugh about it now but wow it rattled me on Saturday. Couldn’t believe what I was seeing. 
 

To be honest I can’t believe we were trying to play out from the back like that. Even at 3-0 considering how poorly we’ve managed second halves recently. 

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He’s doing absolutely fine. He’s fairly young in terms of goalkeeping, and in terms of goalkeeping he’s doing a good job. With regards to his ball playing, he’s never really been comfortable doing that, but he’s a goalkeeper first and foremost, that mistake wasn’t his fault in my opinion it was Marti’s he’s the one who asks him to do it, and it’s clear at the moment we don’t have the personnel to play this way….

 

The only player we possess who can help us play this way is Winks, but he’s a bellend and isn’t an option anymore, so Marti needs to come up with another plan, because that goal just highlights the reason we can’t keep trying to play out from the back, we can’t do it….

 

 

Jakub is fine, for this level is more than good enough, and really isn’t one of the issues. 

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I am not a fan of Enzo's philosophy but I won't rant about that again. 

 

What I don't get is why we look like we have found the ripped notes to Enzo's tactics but only found the first part. There's no actual plan but they still want to show the hierarchy that they have some of that philosophy. It's very reminiscent of Cooper clearly being caught between pragmatism and wanting to demonstrate a willingness to play some of that style. 

 

There's benefits to it when it works but like anything you need to pick and choose your time to use it. This idea that managers like Russell Martin have that he will stick to it no matter what and let games pass them by or have mistake after mistake is genuinely moronic and why he's been sacked twice. 

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That mistake, is on the manager, that is misusing a keeper, and is a silly way to play football.
To me the keeper's job is to prevent shots becoming goals.  

There might be certain cases its ok, like when the opposition isnt in your 3rd and in your face, but no way should the keeper have been expected to do what he did when he did it.

I remember a fair amount of goals coming from Kasper either throwing it or kicking it long.  Those were not aimless, they often found one of our players, and even if it goes to an opposite player, it at least isnt right in front of the keeper and an immediate goal scoring chance.

 

We had the same issues under Enzo, but it wasnt noticed as much as most teams feared us so didnt pressure us so close to goal, whenever we played a team who were not afraid of us, Enzo struggled with the same issues.

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On 14/12/2025 at 16:48, Unabomber said:

His mistake was down to the way the manager is asking him to play. It was terrible but I don’t really blame him for it and doesn’t make him a bad keeper at all 

The manager is very unlikely to be asking him to play a short 6 yard pass to an opposing player. A manager may ask for short passing but they won't be asking for that with zero thought to attacking positioning. Otherwise he'd never kick it long, which he does do.

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3 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

The manager is very unlikely to be asking him to play a short 6 yard pass to an opposing player. A manager may ask for short passing but they won't be asking for that with zero thought to attacking positioning. Otherwise he'd never kick it long, which he does do.

Absolutely. Jakub can see the whole pitch and sees 3 Ipswich players closing all his avenues for a short pass. Common sense tells you to kick the ball long. What happened on Saturday wasn't as much a mistake, as stupidity. He needs to own that and not do it again. 

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27 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

The manager is very unlikely to be asking him to play a short 6 yard pass to an opposing player. A manager may ask for short passing but they won't be asking for that with zero thought to attacking positioning. Otherwise he'd never kick it long, which he does do.

Disagree 

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Remember back in the early 2010’s seeing(and most likely saying) some stuff which in hindsight was just silly about Schmeichel, and it was mainly his claiming of crosses and just distribution that people didn’t like. Since which he became on of the best distributors in the world with his feet. Give him time, keepers age at a different pace, he will almost certainly spend the majority of his career in a top league in Europe 

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On 14/12/2025 at 09:48, Unabomber said:

His mistake was down to the way the manager is asking him to play. It was terrible but I don’t really blame him for it and doesn’t make him a bad keeper at all 

He is a good keeper in my opinion especially considering his age but he does suffer from brain farts when playing out. I realize Marti wants him to play out but to blame that atrocious pass on anyone other than the keeper is laughable.  Marti and/or the goalkeeping coach need to work on his timing for  when & when not to make the pass.

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41 minutes ago, CornwallFox said:

Fair enough. Do you have any examples from any club of confirmed explicit instructions to do this?

Yeah I do but I’ve been sworn to secrecy 

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He's a good goalkeeper, one of the best in the division and imo his ceiling is in the prem, his only flaw is his play with his feet, his distribution has improved as the season has gone on, but we keep playing the ball to his feet with little space to play, that's on the manager. He's not a keeper that is going to thrive in a possession heavy system where the keeper is expected to step forward and play the ball to feet, but he could easily be a #1 at a prem side who don't play that style. 
 

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On 14/12/2025 at 16:48, Unabomber said:

His mistake was down to the way the manager is asking him to play. It was terrible but I don’t really blame him for it and doesn’t make him a bad keeper at all 

The manager didn’t tell him to pass to the opposition player. It was a stupid pass 

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We want young players in the team, they are going to make mistakes at times. In fact, in the long run, mistakes might actually work out well for us if the players learn lessons from them, and don't make the same mistakes again. In that context, dropping a big mistake in a game you go on to win comfortably isn't bad at all IF he doesn't make a mistake like that again, and if he find himself in the same situation he just clears it.

 

In that game situation, where we are 3 up and in no hurry, you can use the short goal kick to waste even more time if you are smart. Set up for the short one, waste a bit of time so everyone gets marked, then do the old "Oh no, I've changed my mind" routine and wave everyone away to the halfway line before going long anyway. Then it inevitably goes out for a throw in or something, and maybe the manager brings on a time wasting sub, or Ayew sits down for a bit of treatment. Classic timewasting 101 straight out the shithouse playbook.

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That mistake isn't on the manager - players have to take some sort of responsibility for their performances and that particular pass, one that you do see quite often nowadays, is madness and players should think better than to make it. It's a very specific passage of play as well.

 

I still don't think it's prudent to drop him. I'm not saying he's a Premier League level goalkeeper but he's not bad either. I just don't really see the point in changing to Begovic - it's pretty short-term stuff for what isn't a guaranteed gain. It's reverting back to the sort of thinking that's kept Faes in the team this season over Nelson.

 

We have bigger issues in our side. Would be silly to throw money at this one. But it's the sort of thing we would go and do.

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What muppet tries a pass to the edge of his area, to a teammate running towards him, being pressed by two opposition players? The object of that run was to make space further up into the midfield, not to receive the ball. He's a professional footballer and should be able to read the game. 

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Just now, broughtonblue said:

What muppet tries a pass to the edge of his area, to a teammate running towards him, being pressed by two opposition players? The object of that run was to make space further up into the midfield, not to receive the ball. He's a professional footballer and should be able to read the game. 

We used to see Mads play that pass into Winks

 

It would sometimes go wrong as well but we would get away with them not scoring

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