Kasey McAteer

[Muzzy_no7]

Championship player? 
 

Name championship sides he would start for. 
 

Same with Luke Thomas. 
 

Both incredibly lightweight and not able to take on another player. 

[HybridFox]

Good movement but final ball is woeful at times. Some real underhit passes. There is potential for sure, maybe RVN can help that side of the game. In an ideal world we'd have him out on loan at a promotion chasing Championship club though 

[dannythefox]

1 hour ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Championship player? 
 

Name championship sides he would start for. 
 

Same with Luke Thomas. 
 

Both incredibly lightweight and not able to take on another player. 

Really? I think he looks like a lad who can get forward and cause issues but is very aware he doesn’t want to get caught out not tracking back and giving defensive support when needed. It’s been two games and he has assist. I’m sure given time he’ll get better. 

[Father Ted]

Completely out of his depth. A winger that doesn’t carry the ball forward, doesn’t want the ball, only passes backwards, has no skill or trickery, no attempt to beat a man and on the rare occasion his pace gets him into a dangerous area, his end product is atrocious. 
 

Mavadidi must be bewildered sat on the bench watching him play ahead of him. 
 

I’m struggling to think of a worse player to play for us in the Premier League in the last 10 years. I see no attributes at all to suggest he will improve, running around a lot doesn’t make someone a good footballer.

[Noahfence]

Are we sure he’s actually an attacking player? 

[BillyFOX12]

1 minute ago, Father Ted said:

I’m struggling to think of a worse player to play for us in the Premier League in the last 10 years. I see no attributes at all to suggest he will improve, running around a lot doesn’t make someone a good footballer.

What? Danny Ward? Luke Thomas?

[Father Ted]

12 hours ago, jv1 said:

Ran his socks off - full of energy - gives his all - let’s stick with the positives for today 

If any one of us on here played today, they would be the positives too

[whoareyaaa]

Has the desire and energy required gets into good positions and has pace, but final ball is not great hopefully that can improve... I'd rather have him in the team over Ayew tbh.

[BillyFOX12]

Just now, whoareyaaa said:

Has the desire and energy required gets into good positions and has pace, but final ball is not great hopefully that can improve... I'd rather have him in the team over Ayew tbh.

I think no one can fault his desire, he does seem to give it his all, much like VK. But the reality is they're both Championship level at best, just like Luke Thomas is more of a League One or lower Championship player.

[LFEFox23]

12 hours ago, jv1 said:

Ran his socks off - full of energy - gives his all - let’s stick with the positives for today 

I'm guessing you're the type of person that wants to give all the kids in the race a medal for trying?

 

Come on mate, this is the BEST league in the world... We need more than just a 'tryer'.

[James_lcfc]

4 minutes ago, Father Ted said:

Completely out of his depth. A winger that doesn’t carry the ball forward, doesn’t want the ball, only passes backwards, has no skill or trickery, no attempt to beat a man and on the rare occasion his pace gets him into a dangerous area, his end product is atrocious. 
 

Mavadidi must be bewildered sat on the bench watching him play ahead of him. 
 

I’m struggling to think of a worse player to play for us in the Premier League in the last 10 years. I see no attributes at all to suggest he will improve, running around a lot doesn’t make someone a good footballer.

Your last sentence is perhaps a bit harsh, but I agree with the rest.

 

His attempts to go past someone are just so telegraphed that it's hard to watch. I don't think he'd stand out playing a couple of levels below.

[whoareyaaa]

1 minute ago, BillyFOX12 said:

I think no one can fault his desire, he does seem to give it his all, much like VK. But the reality is they're both Championship level at best, just like Luke Thomas is more of a League One or lower Championship player.

Yep they could be upgraded as harsh as that is I probably agree but we don't have anyone else right now unless we strengthen in Jan.

[Chelmofox]

1 minute ago, Father Ted said:

Completely out of his depth. A winger that doesn’t carry the ball forward, doesn’t want the ball, only passes backwards, has no skill or trickery, no attempt to beat a man and on the rare occasion his pace gets him into a dangerous area, his end product is atrocious. 
 

Mavadidi must be bewildered sat on the bench watching him play ahead of him. 
 

I’m struggling to think of a worse player to play for us in the Premier League in the last 10 years. I see no attributes at all to suggest he will improve, running around a lot doesn’t make someone a good footballer.

I genuinely think that's unfair. I do agree that he isn't going to excel at PL level and he is tentative and lacks confidence to take on people, but remember there was a very good assist against West Ham and i think he offers more than Mavididi does to protect the full back.  Mavi doesn't look fully fit to me, but did change the game when he came on.  Saying he is the worst for us in 10 years is taking the pee.

 

Being a winger in the PL is hard, hard work. We've seen Mavi start and have poor games and posters saying that he almost looks disinterested. Almost seems coming on and being and impact player suits everyone more. 

[slymunn]

9 minutes ago, Father Ted said:

I’m struggling to think of a worse player to play for us in the Premier League in the last 10 years. I see no attributes at all to suggest he will improve, running around a lot doesn’t make someone a good footballer.

Ryan Bennett? 

[Jobyfox]

McAteer is a player who is symptomatic of our decline. Ordinarily he’d be loaned out to the Championship or Division One, but finds himself starting in the Premier League. He’s a trier and a very willing runner, but (it’s not his fault) he just doesn’t look like he has the ability to succeed at this level 

 

We have a paucity of options with Fatawu out long term, but Mavididi, Buonanotte and probably even BDCR should be ahead of him. I’d even have Ricardo ahead of him if he were fit. 
 

He may have to be around the match day squad a bit longer though given the numbers and the fact that Ayew shouldn’t be a PL starter either. Ideally we need someone in January to cover Abdul’s absence 
 

 

[Devonfox1884]

Yes he’s not good enough, I think that’s clear to see.

 

But it’s not like he’s picking himself, he’s giving 100% and is a local boy also.

 

Back him whilst he’s on the pitch, I suspect we won’t see too much more of him as a starter, especially once we’ve had the chance to add to the squad in January. 

[Jobyfox]

7 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

I genuinely think that's unfair. I do agree that he isn't going to excel at PL level and he is tentative and lacks confidence to take on people, but remember there was a very good assist against West Ham and i think he offers more than Mavididi does to protect the full back.  Mavi doesn't look fully fit to me, but did change the game when he came on.  Saying he is the worst for us in 10 years is taking the pee.

 

Being a winger in the PL is hard, hard work. We've seen Mavi start and have poor games and posters saying that he almost looks disinterested. Almost seems coming on and being and impact player suits everyone more. 

Well I think there is definitely something in that. If you’re a winger with pace that is coming on with a remit to run at the opposition in a 15-20 minute burst then it’s easier to excel. Especially as it’s quite often the case that the team is chasing the game at this point so it’s almost no jeopardy. Impacting the game over the full ninety is much harder.

 

I think we’ve been in danger of overrating the abilities of both Mavididi and Fatawu at this level. Both will have impacts at times, but there will also be a lot of frustration. AF is young and has a much higher ceiling. SM we’ll have to be patient with, but ultimately we need better. Kasey, as everyone else can see, is not PL material 

[VLC86]

22 minutes ago, LFEFox23 said:

I'm guessing you're the type of person that wants to give all the kids in the race a medal for trying?

 

Come on mate, this is the BEST league in the world... We need more than just a 'tryer'.

As a starter, you are probably right but to have a balanced team you really do need someone who is going to give their all and a wide player that can be relied on defensively.

 

One thing I’ll say about him from yesterday, he took the safe option of keeping possession rather than trying to take someone on he knew he wouldn’t get the better of and this helped us to retain the ball.

[Supergray22]

7 hours ago, HybridFox said:

Good movement but final ball is woeful at times. Some real underhit passes. There is potential for sure, maybe RVN can help that side of the game. In an ideal world we'd have him out on loan at a promotion chasing Championship club though 

I think ideally he would have been loaned out but with FFP constraints we needed to keep him in the squad. He isn’t the finished article and as you say needs to work on his distribution. There is definitely potential there though. I may be a bit biased towards the local lad but he has proved he can score and assist at this level , has pace and awareness. He is still relatively new in terms of minutes in the first team and at this level. With time and confidence I think he could become a decent player at this level if he puts the work in. He is never going to be a Mahrez or even a Buonanotte but I don’t think we should be knocking young lads who are brave enough to get out there and give their all for the cause. He is one of our own coming through the ranks. If we continually knock him publicly what message does this send to other up and coming youngsters at the club. 

[les-tah]

35 minutes ago, Father Ted said:

Completely out of his depth. A winger that doesn’t carry the ball forward, doesn’t want the ball, only passes backwards, has no skill or trickery, no attempt to beat a man and on the rare occasion his pace gets him into a dangerous area, his end product is atrocious. 
 

Mavadidi must be bewildered sat on the bench watching him play ahead of him. 
 

I’m struggling to think of a worse player to play for us in the Premier League in the last 10 years. I see no attributes at all to suggest he will improve, running around a lot doesn’t make someone a good footballer.

Harsh, very very harsh… but struggling to disagree on any point. Top lad though.

[dmayne7]

34 minutes ago, BillyFOX12 said:

What? Danny Ward? Luke Thomas?

Thomas . People seem to forget that he was actually good for a while but he simply doesn't have the physicality to play at this level consistently.

 

Kasey works hard and he's got a real knack for picking up great positions. Unfortunately, that's about it. Almost every time he gets the ball, it takes him a second to get it under control and that's a clear sign that the pace of the game is too much at this level. 

 

We've definitely had worse performers at this level, but I genuinely cannot remember somebody who has looked so out of their depth. Maybe his future is as a wing back/fullback

[BenTheFox]

9 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

Championship player? 
 

Name championship sides he would start for. 
 

Same with Luke Thomas. 
 

Both incredibly lightweight and not able to take on another player. 

I don't know every championship club's starting 11. I do know that he scored 6 goals in 23 championship games last season, so he clearly isn't completely hopeless at championship level. 

 

For the record, I don't think he'll ever be Premier League standard footballer.

[Muzzy_no7]

8 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

I don't know every championship club's starting 11. I do know that he scored 6 goals in 23 championship games last season, so he clearly isn't completely hopeless at championship level. 

 

For the record, I don't think he'll ever be Premier League standard footballer.

It’s 6 in 23 playing in an Enzo system that is almost entirely built to cater for the goals and assists from the two wingers. 

[RoboFox]

I can't recall a physically weaker player for us.

 

He's not the smallest guy but it's seemingly so easy for defenders to dominate him, it's bizarre. 

 

It's no wonder he's so hesitant to take players on and ends up slowing down play and passing backwards. 

[winteriscoming]

There would be interest in him in the championship. A full season in the championship imo would improve him. 
Hopefully the same as Barnes had with WBA.