Daka

[Fox92]

25 minutes ago, accessory said:

Here are a few other City strikers who didn't improve while playing with Vardy:

 

Harry Kane - record England goalscorer.

Chris Wood - veteran PL striker, likely to be in the Champions League next year. 😟

Andrej Kramaric - World Cup finalist.

Islam Slimani - AFCON winner.

Ayoze Pérez - Euro24 winner.

 

It needed a strong character to knock him off his perch, which Daka wasn't (and isn't). However he was somewhat undermined by a pledge made by Rodgers to keep Vardy at the club as long as he (Rodgers) was here.

 

Daka is a modern-day version of Mark Bright from the 1980s - vilified by fans here (and not just for football reasons), but very capable of rebuilding his career at a decent level elsewhere.

Lets be honest, Rodgers was right to always want Vardy at the club. It was under Brendan Rodgers that Vardy won his only top flight golden boot and was consistently scored at least 15 goals. Rodgers would have been stupid to gloss over a striker as good as Vardy.

[The Doctor]

5 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Lets be honest, Rodgers was right to always want Vardy at the club. It was under Brendan Rodgers that Vardy won his only top flight golden boot and was consistently scored at least 15 goals. Rodgers would have been stupid to gloss over a striker as good as Vardy.

eh, yes and no. Managers are so short lived at any club in the modern game that succession planning isn't often a consideration for them but fundamentally if he was planning to be here long term he needed to actually do succession planning and have a replacement for Vardy long term who was managed properly - honestly we'd not be in the position we are now if he had because a huge part of the relegation in 22/23 was that lack of succession plannin: two key players, both aging, one we still haven't got a long term replacement for (Vardy, and he scored 3 goals in 37 games that season, his worst ever season for us) and one the replacement for was just not up to scratch at all (Schmeichel Vs Ward). 

Had we signed a proper keeper, we'd have stayed up, had we not just stuck to "Vardy is first choice no matter what" we'd likely have stayed up as well

 

[Fox92]

8 minutes ago, The Doctor said:

eh, yes and no. Managers are so short lived at any club in the modern game that succession planning isn't often a consideration for them but fundamentally if he was planning to be here long term he needed to actually do succession planning and have a replacement for Vardy long term who was managed properly - honestly we'd not be in the position we are now if he had because a huge part of the relegation in 22/23 was that lack of succession plannin: two key players, both aging, one we still haven't got a long term replacement for (Vardy, and he scored 3 goals in 37 games that season, his worst ever season for us) and one the replacement for was just not up to scratch at all (Schmeichel Vs Ward). 

Had we signed a proper keeper, we'd have stayed up, had we not just stuck to "Vardy is first choice no matter what" we'd likely have stayed up as well

 

Vardy scored 15 league goals (17 overall) in 21/22, the season prior to us getting relegated. If Rodgers wouldn't have played Vardy, or sold him, going into 22/23 and we still went down people would have blamed it on a lack of Vardy goals. No team or manager would ditch a striker that had scored 23, 15, 15 in three consecutive seasons.

 

I have always said this club is to loyal and now we're at a point where we have a 38 year old up top. No other club would have that. But at the end of the day Daka was brought in, for a stupidly high fee, and has proved to be nowhere near the level of Vardy. 

Edited 27 March by Fox92

[BigC]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

Vardy scored 15 league goals (17 overall) in 21/22, the season prior to us getting relegated. If Rodgers wouldn't have played Vardy, or sold him, going into 22/23 and we still went down people would have blamed it on a lack of Vardy goals. No team or manager would ditch a striker that had scored 23, 15, 15 in three consecutive seasons.

 

I have always said this club is to loyal and now we're at a point where we have a 38 year old up top. No other club would have that. But at the end of the day Daka was brought in, for a stupidly high fee, and has proved to be nowhere near the level of Vardy. 

Just on 21/22, vardy had the best goals per minute ratio of any player I am sure. Pretty insane. 

[The Doctor]

1 hour ago, Fox92 said:

Vardy scored 15 league goals (17 overall) in 21/22, the season prior to us getting relegated. If Rodgers wouldn't have played Vardy, or sold him, going into 22/23 and we still went down people would have blamed it on a lack of Vardy goals. No team or manager would ditch a striker that had scored 23, 15, 15 in three consecutive seasons.

 

I have always said this club is to loyal and now we're at a point where we have a 38 year old up top. No other club would have that. But at the end of the day Daka was brought in, for a stupidly high fee, and has proved to be nowhere near the level of Vardy. 

who said anything about selling him in summer 22? once it was clear that Vardy was struggling that season, we should have had alternatives to play instead. the only alternatives we had were Iheanacho and Daka, both of whom are massive confidence players who'd had their confidence absolutely destroyed by some pretty poor management around their rotation with Vardy. That's on recruitment not finding players with strong mentalities and on the management over emphasising Vardy to the long term detriment of the club 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

6 hours ago, Kinowe Soorie said:

The miss against Leeds is up there with the worst I’ve ever seen. Says it all when he didn’t pull up any trees in the Championship.

I’ll throw in his slice/air shot at Plymouth, with the theme tune to Curb your Enthusiasm playing, for good measure. 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

3 hours ago, CosbehFox said:

He was very good in that Leeds game up to that point too. You are bang on about mentality 

 

I don't think he's any saviour.

At one point last season, he was 7 goals from 10 appearances and in first PL season, he had a goal in every 2.3 games ( a 16 goal season). 

 

“At one point…” 🧐 

[Realist Guy In The Room]

3 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

I’ll throw in his slice/air shot at Plymouth, with the theme tune to Curb your Enthusiasm playing, for good measure. 

I was there and the saddest thing was, as he was shaping to shoot, the bloke standing behind me shouted, 'NO CHANCE'.

 

 

[CosbehFox]

4 minutes ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

“At one point…” 🧐 

? 

 

Before Middlesbrough at home, his record last season was played ten games and scored 7. Leeds shocker occurs and doesn't score again. 

[don_danbury]

4 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

? 

 

Before Middlesbrough at home, his record last season was played ten games and scored 7. Leeds shocker occurs and doesn't score again. 

wasn't that 3 pens and 4 tap-ins?

[sm1]

Hes been an expensive failure but that's not all his fault. He was brought in as we changed our style to a more possession based, which he is unsuited to. He needs the ball played early over the top so he can run onto it. We play the ball short to Daka's feet but he's physically weak and has a poor 1st touch. He'd probably play better for a team like Forest, but since Top wants us to play like Man City, he's of no use here.

[The Guvnor]

£25 million for a player who is physically weak and has a poor first touch 🤣🤣

[Sol thewall Bamba]

16 minutes ago, don_danbury said:

wasn't that 3 pens and 4 tap-ins?

Quite. I went through his goals here once and it was something crazy like only 2 or 3 goals actually won us points, the rest were either scoring when we were already cruising, or a consolation.

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

1 hour ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

I was there and the saddest thing was, as he was shaping to shoot, the bloke standing behind me shouted, 'NO CHANCE'.

 

 

LOL

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

1 hour ago, CosbehFox said:

? 

 

Before Middlesbrough at home, his record last season was played ten games and scored 7. Leeds shocker occurs and doesn't score again. 

It’s a bit like saying “if only”… if only my aunty had bollocks she’d be uncle 

[Dmitry]

1 hour ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

It’s a bit like saying “if only”… if only my aunty had bollocks she’d be uncle 

Not any more, my friend. Not any more.

[ashbyj]

7 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

Daka always comes across as lovely in his interviews. I never doubt he would be a lovely bloke to be around.

 

But when we talk about mentality, and desire etc, he should have made it his mission to be our number 1. He should have been laser focussed to have achieved that, no matter what. 

 

Instead, he's shown Vardy far too much respect. I think in the early days he waited for his opportunity, rather that pushing to take it. Thats then symbolised where he is now. 1 goal this season for someone who should be hitting their prime years.

 

Sad thing is, this whole experience has probably given him everything he needs to make his next move a success. I've always felt he will go somewhere with a completely different mind set and take his opportunities. Will probably go somewhere in Italy and bag 20 goals in a season.

I genuinely believe he’d struggle to stay on his feet and score 20 in the Italian women’s league.

[Bourbon Fox]

7 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

Oddly, the game showed me what he was made of was the Leeds away game in our relegation season. We had got the game back to 1-1, and Daka was through and pretty much 1 on 1 with the keeper. Instead of taking his chance and going for it, he squared it to Vardy who was scored but was offside. It was a bad decision that i think he made out of respect. What that 3 points would have done to that season as well.

That was a massive moment.

Wrote him off at that point. Sod Vardy, back yourself and finish it.

[iancognito]

5 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

I’ll throw in his slice/air shot at Plymouth, with the theme tune to Curb your Enthusiasm playing, for good measure. 

Liverpool away this season the same, shanked it

[iancognito]

On 26/03/2025 at 08:46, Finnegan said:

 

I'm sorry but this is revisionism. He was. Sometimes transfers fail, I'm not arguing that he hasn't been disappointing. I'm happy to concede that even if he'd been better managed from the start and we hadn't tanked his confidence, I don't think he'd ever have been quite good enough for the level we were aiming at in the Prem. 

 

But on paper the transfer made a lot of sense and was a good one. There's always an extent to which you roll the dice when you buy any player. 

 

Vestergaard, Bertrand, Ayew, Reid, Ghezzal, Slimani, Perez, we've made loads of transfers that looked stupid at the time and turned out to be stupid. 

 

Daka and Soumaré were worth the gamble and if we'd had another coach here when they arrived we probably would have gotten a lot more out of them. 

 

That's delusion.

 

You cannot look at the reels of footage of him missing sitters and just generally fluffing his lines and call it disappointing. An odd miss is disappointing but to have so many obvious misses, to be physically weak and have such a poor touch is nothing to do with coaching or wrong place wrong time it's just the sign of a player incapable of playing at this level, maybe even the next level down. When you're through on goal or a cross arrives to you in the box that's just straightforward standard finishing.

 

He's just not a top level striker.

[Realist Guy In The Room]

16 minutes ago, iancognito said:

That's delusion.

 

You cannot look at the reels of footage of him missing sitters and just generally fluffing his lines and call it disappointing. An odd miss is disappointing but to have so many obvious misses, to be physically weak and have such a poor touch is nothing to do with coaching or wrong place wrong time it's just the sign of a player incapable of playing at this level, maybe even the next level down. When you're through on goal or a cross arrives to you in the box that's just straightforward standard finishing.

 

He's just not a top level striker.

This.

 

He’s lower half Championship and even in that realm, if he got 10 in a season i’d be gobsmacked.

[TamworthFoxes]

I think we should build the team around him next season.

 

Did I say Team, I Meant a giant wall so he can't get out and ever play for us again.

[The Doctor]

14 minutes ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

This.

 

He’s lower half Championship and even in that realm, if he got 10 in a season i’d be gobsmacked.

having got 7 in 20 games, with minutes equivalent to 12 games, last season? behave, as a main man in the championship, evidence is he'd be a 16-25 goal a season player. He's a reasonable striker when confident and would be a perfectly serviceable championship striker. He's just got mentality issues holding him back, much like Iheanacho (who was only good when there were no crowds watching)

[Gamble92]

8 hours ago, Fox92 said:

Lets be honest, Rodgers was right to always want Vardy at the club. It was under Brendan Rodgers that Vardy won his only top flight golden boot and was consistently scored at least 15 goals. Rodgers would have been stupid to gloss over a striker as good as Vardy.

Absolutely right but he was also the one writing Vardy off saying he's had it. He then showed with the right usage, he was capable of 20 in about 22 starts in the championship. You don't do that when you've had it. Even if it is a level below. 

 

Everything that Rodgers did well, and he did do a lot of good first two years - he did equally as badly the rest of his time here and we will probably see the repercussions for a decade. 

[justfoxes]

On 26/03/2025 at 14:21, st albans fox said:

Anyone can get a target wrong 

the wages we pay on lots of players is what’s got us into psr trouble.  Basically stopped us being able to trade 

Rudkin is like the Del Boy of football promising the world cocking up everything, Top needs to realise this and if Vichai was still here he would have noticed his incompetence years before when making all his drastic incompetent Directorship, time for the fraud to go time for Top to step up and make business saving decisions time to save Leicester from being completely ruined !!