Next England Manager?

[st albans fox]

14 hours ago, Super_horns said:

No idea if there is any truth in this about Tuchel?

 

https://x.com/cfbayern/status/1844805088029917609?s=46&t=vTrr1jO3Iq0fZm1bNnqjyg

 

13 hours ago, Bilo said:

He's an absurdly good tournament coach. Pure winning mentality.

 

He'd be my choice at this point.

If the rumours I’d heard about him were true then there’s no chance he gets the job 

[foxes_rule1978]

I’m going to go out there, and say Tuchel would be a great fit for this side. He would take the job too 

[Bilo]

13 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

I’m going to go out there, and say Tuchel would be a great fit for this side. He would take the job too 

He's won trophies pretty much everywhere he has been, and that Chelsea side in particular had no right to be champions of Europe. 

[foxes_rule1978]

25 minutes ago, Bilo said:

He's won trophies pretty much everywhere he has been, and that Chelsea side in particular had no right to be champions of Europe. 

Absolutely, look chelsea should never have, and yeah he might get more stick for losing the title to Leverkusen, but you have to respect just how good Leverkusen were. Leverkusen were on another level to most. His Bayern side was still one of the best in Europe,  they more than pulled their weight in the CL last season. You need to look the details and not just take things at face value 

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

4 hours ago, st albans fox said:

 

If the rumours I’d heard about him were true then there’s no chance he gets the job 

Ferrets up the arse is it?

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

Ferrets up the arse is it?

Funnily enough - no ferrets involved

 

think more David pleat meets Robbie fowler ….

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

29 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Funnily enough - no ferrets involved

 

think more David pleat meets Robbie fowler ….

Ah - I see.

[Leicesterpool]

On 12/10/2024 at 10:37, foxes_rule1978 said:

I’m going to go out there, and say Tuchel would be a great fit for this side. He would take the job too 

Be the first time really we got an manager at their peak, Capello was a top coach but was latter part of his management career. Since he was sacked by Chelsea, they never been the same club, if I remember when he walked in their, they were 7th in the premier league and in poor form in February by May they were champions of europe, capable of lifting players. The only dip was his time at Bayern Munich.

[Super_horns]

Looks like the FA are in talks with Thomas Tuchel for the England job according  to Sky
 

Can see some of the headlines and comments already!

[Dan]

I'm pleasantly surprised they're going for Tuchel. International management isn't about 'building' over a long term it's about taking the tools you have and being able to conjure it into something that works, which Tuchel for all his flaws has shown serious ability at at some points of his career.

 

I'm addressing this whole 'building' point because I keep reading it's apparently some betrayal of what Southgate's 'built' and I'd like to know what exactly that is.

[bovril]

On 12/10/2024 at 16:10, st albans fox said:

Funnily enough - no ferrets involved

 

think more David pleat meets Robbie fowler ….

least weird German 

[foxes_rule1978]

Tuchel pretty much has everything you would want from an international manager. Would of course prefer if he was English, but right now there are none anywhere near Tuchel’s level. 

[purpleronnie]

Give it a few years and no sucess and it will all be all his fault and 'we need a different manager'

[bmt]

Amusingly all the comments on BBC say they don't want him. Tuchel is an elite manager. 

[foxes_rule1978]

1 hour ago, purpleronnie said:

Give it a few years and no sucess and it will all be all his fault and 'we need a different manager'

Well we need a manager regardless, only because in the past things haven’t gone to plan doesn’t mean it will continue to be that way. Just need to make the right appointment and let’s face it the FA haven’t been great at doing that part 

[st albans fox]

1 hour ago, bovril said:

least weird German 

Can see him lasting less time than big Sam once the red tops get their teeth into his history 

 

 

[Leicesterpool]

Tuchel yeah decent appointment. Miles better than the likes of Potter and Howe. You cant turn down someone whose won the champions league. Pep would have been that dream appointment, but just bad timing.

[MonkeyTennis?]

Tuchel: A capable, pushy and inventive manager, and also a difficult, tetchy, reportedly disagreeable guy. He's like the anti-Southgate! 

Edited 15 October 2024 by MonkeyTennis?

[UniFox21]

Fair play they've gone for a proven winner. Wonder if this works better than Capello,

[st albans fox]

On 12/10/2024 at 09:50, st albans fox said:

 

If the rumours I’d heard about him were true then there’s no chance he gets the job 

Clearly they aren’t then ….

 

16 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

Fair play they've gone for a proven winner. Wonder if this works better than Capello,

might turn out to be the only Bayern coach in the last 15 years not to win the league …..

[JimJams]

2 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

might turn out to be the only Bayern coach in the last 15 years not to win the league …..

You can't really blame him for the curse of Harry Kane.

 

First task on the agenda, exorcising that demon and making Ollie Watkins first choice striker.  You can't mess with the occult.

[Super_horns]

Being German Tuchel will need to have an instant impact and not fall out with the media otherwise knives will be out for him early !

[Ian Nacho]

4 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

I'm pleasantly surprised they're going for Tuchel. International management isn't about 'building' over a long term it's about taking the tools you have and being able to conjure it into something that works, which Tuchel for all his flaws has shown serious ability at at some points of his career.

 

I'm addressing this whole 'building' point because I keep reading it's apparently some betrayal of what Southgate's 'built' and I'd like to know what exactly that is.

Whatever Southgate built is not on the pitch. More around building a culture of breaking the failure cycle. No doubt England have missed opportunities in the last few tournaments that a more competent manager would've capitalised on but I don't see them as being failures. 

[Bilo]

8 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

Whatever Southgate built is not on the pitch. More around building a culture of breaking the failure cycle. No doubt England have missed opportunities in the last few tournaments that a more competent manager would've capitalised on but I don't see them as being failures. 

Agree here.

 

The quarterfinals of a major tournament used to be our ceiling and would now be regarded as a disappointment. 

[Dan]

7 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

Whatever Southgate built is not on the pitch. More around building a culture of breaking the failure cycle. No doubt England have missed opportunities in the last few tournaments that a more competent manager would've capitalised on but I don't see them as being failures. 

Southgate definitely took England further than we had been but I just don't really see international football as something where you build on previous outcomes. It isn't club football where you're playing every week and training every day. It's a very finite amount of time and games. I don't think what Tuchel does here will have really been shaped by Southgate at all. There aren't really foundations other than raised expectation - something that I think given the calibre of some of our players was going to be there anyway.

 

I do think there's a chance Tuchel completely tanks at England but a lot of what Southgate was championed for I saw scant evidence of in the last tournament - didn't look a happy camp to me or a cohesive team. We fell into that final. Complete fluke and luck of the draw. To be honest I'd argue Southgate achieved a much higher level of performance in 2022 despite only hitting a quarter final.