Next England Manager?

[CosbehFox]

25 minutes ago, Sly said:

Scotland, Ireland and Wales consider us bigger rivals to be honest.

 

Argentina, like Germany is historically based on stuff outside of football. Anyone 25 and under surely doesn’t see Germany or Argentina as a rival? 

I don't see English under 25 would consider Argentina that big of a rival but any Argentine regardless of age hates us. The Falklands War is set well into society over Argentina

[ajthefox]

34 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

People are missing the point its not about Tuchel.

 

It the lack of any clear plan to develop top qulaity English coaches. 

 

Like we did with player development, we need a blue print to develop the next generation of coaches and manager. 

 

Well then that's a different discussion really, isn't it, because Tuchel is our manager now.

[Super_horns]

40 minutes ago, coolhandfox said:

People are missing the point its not about Tuchel.

 

It the lack of any clear plan to develop top qulaity English coaches. 

 

Like we did with player development, we need a blue print to develop the next generation of coaches and manager. 

 

Tell the clubs to appoint English/British coaches and give them a chance but obviously they cannot do that.

 

 I am not sure people would have been happy or fully satisfied had they appointed Howe or Potter in particular.

Not like there is someone who has missed out and might feel unlucky.

Gary Lineker went down the route of Gerrard on his podcast - already been written off as a manager now like Lampard.

Probably sums up the lack of options.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

1 hour ago, Sly said:

Argentina, like Germany is historically based on stuff outside of football. 

 

I'd argue its a combo of stuff outside of football as well as in football now to be honest, it's your classic bit of both with Germany and the Argies. 

[bovril]

17 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

 

I'd argue its a combo of stuff outside of football as well as in football now to be honest, it's your classic bit of both with Germany and the Argies. 

I mean you could never accuse the Argentinians of not caring about us. 

[Tuna]

Honestly couldn't care less that he is not English. He's a clear step up from Southgate.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

2 hours ago, Bilo said:

I've been saying for years that a top drawer manager would make all the difference for England.

 

Southgate laid some great foundations and we have undeniably improved during his tenure, but he badly ran out of steam over the last couple of years and he didn't have the expertise to get us over the line in big games.

 

That cannot be said of Tuchel. Even if he only gets it right at one international tournament, winning anything makes him a legend overnight and sends the country into celebration. I'm actually excited for the WC qualifiers and seeing what he builds.

Absolutely. Idiotic comments like "imagine what we'll be saying if a German wins England the World Cup". 

 

If England win the World Cup I doubt I'll care about anyone's nationality for about a month ffs. 

 

All this so soon after Sven's passing too, it's pretty abhorrent tbh.

[South Shire Fox]

1 hour ago, Sly said:

Scotland, Ireland and Wales consider us bigger rivals to be honest.

 

Argentina, like Germany is historically based on stuff outside of football. Anyone 25 and under surely doesn’t see Germany or Argentina as a rival? 

Argentina definitely are. Maradona, Simeone, antics after we beat them in 2002. Horrible teams full of cheats. Ireland and Wales are not Englands rivals in football although its a cup final to them. Scotland are number 3 behind Argentina and Germany imo. 
 

Still couldnt care less the nationality of the manager if he wins us something though! 

Edited 16 October 2024 by South Shire Fox

[Dr Marco]

Sarina won the euros with the women

hope Thomas wins the World Cup with the men

[bovril]

30 minutes ago, Tuna said:

Honestly couldn't care less that he is not English. He's a clear step up from Southgate.

It's not the same for me. International football should be about the best players and coaches from their respective countries competing against each other. Foreign coaches doesn't feel right. Too much like club football.

[South Shire Fox]

26 minutes ago, bovril said:

It's not the same for me. International football should be about the best players and coaches from their respective countries competing against each other. Foreign coaches doesn't feel right. Too much like club football.

Do you not want to win a World cup in your lifetime then? The current crop of English managers are no way near the level. Dont remember people being that arsed about Sven being the manager.

 

Can guarentee if Pep was appointed nationality wouldnt even be mentioned as everyone would be jizzing themselves

Edited 16 October 2024 by South Shire Fox

[Wymsey]

If can't win something with an international manager who has won various trophies, then there's no 'hope'.

 

Still think reaching a final is still a success.

[Leicesterpool]

I so want Tuchel to do well now, just shut the doubters up.... part the reason why English coaches fail is most don't want to adapt or change. Too stubborn on tactics, we need more English coaches coaching abroad. Too many seem to just want to stay managing in England only. Get out their, do what someone like Dean Smith is doing get yourself to the States coach in a new league. 

[bovril]

44 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

Do you not want to win a World cup in your lifetime then? The current crop of English managers are no way near the level. Dont remember people being that arsed about Sven being the manager.

 

Can guarentee if Pep was appointed nationality wouldnt even be mentioned as everyone would be jizzing themselves

Like I said, it's not for me. What I like in international football is smaller countries like Romania or Croatia beating bigger ones like Germany or England because of the skill of their players or the tactical nous of their coaches, not how much money they can offer. That's what international sport is for me. 

 

Also, we were penalty kicks away from winning the Euros with Gareth ****ing Southgate. The idea that it is impossible to win a trophy with an English manager is absurd. If we can't, try and change that. Try and learn from the other countries.

[Guest Bilo]

1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Absolutely. Idiotic comments like "imagine what we'll be saying if a German wins England the World Cup". 

 

If England win the World Cup I doubt I'll care about anyone's nationality for about a month ffs. 

 

All this so soon after Sven's passing too, it's pretty abhorrent tbh.

I'd had the same thoughts about Sven. The xenophobia he had to endure when he was appointed was disgusting, and he was never anything but a gentleman. The tributes after he passed showed that. 

 

You would think that the TWENTY THREE YEARS that have passed since his appointment would have taught the likes of the Daily Heil a real lesson, but sadly not. They'll want us to forget if we win something. **** that.

[bovril]

1 minute ago, Bilo said:

I'd had the same thoughts about Sven. The xenophobia he had to endure when he was appointed was disgusting, and he was never anything but a gentleman. The tributes after he passed showed that. 

 

You would think that the TWENTY THREE YEARS that have passed since his appointment would have taught the likes of the Daily Heil a real lesson, but sadly not. They'll want us to forget if we win something. **** that.

Genuine question - has there been any xenophobia towards Tuchel? I don't read the Mail et al. 

[Leicesterpool]

The same people making comments about Tuchel shouldn't manage England cause he's Germany are probably the same people who criticised the Bulgarian's for being racist. Hypocrites at end of the day. Best man for the job no matter who nationality, go prove them wrong Tuchel.

 

My question would be, would you rather hire an Englishman and win nothing or hire a German and win the world cup?

Edited 16 October 2024 by Leicesterpool

[Guest Bilo]

6 minutes ago, bovril said:

Genuine question - has there been any xenophobia towards Tuchel? I don't read the Mail et al. 

Only on social media so far, apart from the Daily Heil losing its shit.

 

You just know The Sun will weigh in the morning after a disappointing 0-0 draw with Poland as well.

[South Shire Fox]

14 minutes ago, Leicesterpool said:

The same people making comments about Tuchel shouldn't manage England cause he's Germany are probably the same people who criticised the Bulgarian's for being racist. Hypocrites at end of the day. Best man for the job no matter who nationality, go prove them wrong Tuchel.

 

My question would be, would you rather hire an Englishman and win nothing or hire a German and win the world cup?

Theres plenty on social media who say they’d rather win nothing 😂. Hilarious

[Guest Bilo]

2 hours ago, bovril said:

I mean you could never accuse the Argentinians of not caring about us. 

I would argue that Argentina hate us more than Brazil, which is a purely regional and football rivalry. 

[Guest Bilo]

3 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

Theres plenty on social media who say they’d rather win nothing 😂. Hilarious

We've had that for 60 years, and they want more of the same. 😂

[Leicesterpool]

I'm sure Germany would happily hire an Englishman if meant winning the world cup, people need to get a grip. Ironic that

Harry Redknapp said the England job should be Englishman, yet many years ago he held talks to become manager of Ukraine and admitted he did fancy it at one point, but changed his mind due to the travelling.

Edited 16 October 2024 by Leicesterpool

[Wymsey]

Sometimes the media want some fans to turn against certain managers and players.

[Izzy]

Gotta say that Tuchel's command of the English language is exceptional.

 

Never ceases to amaze me how well most foreign coaches speak our lingo.

 

I often forget that English isn't their native tongue. It's very impressive.

[Leicesterpool]

2 minutes ago, Izzy said:

Gotta say that Tuchel's command of the English language is exceptional.

 

Never ceases to amaze me how well most foreign coaches speak our lingo.

 

I often forget that English isn't their native tongue. It's very impressive.

Compare it to Capello was manager for four years yet when he left the job he could barely speak two English sentences. No wonder he failed.