Aus Fox Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 2 hours ago, daddylonglegs said: Those next 10 games give me serious flashbacks to Rodgers/Smith in 2023. If the board have any sense whatsoever, they'll be sounding out Corberan/Potter/whoever now and getting them ready to come in, should results be poor against Brentford & Chelsea. We've then got four games where either we continue to trundle along in the hope we might accidentally nick a win under Cooper, or get someone in with some ambition & motivational qualities. Leave it any later and all of a sudden we're sitting there on new years day with about 3 more points than we've got at the moment. Corberan???
ClaphamFox Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 7 minutes ago, KFS said: We’ve been here before. He hasn’t/ won’t be sacked. It's almost certain he will at some point. It's just a matter of when.
Wymsey Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 (edited) The thing is - somehow beat Chelsea, and some will probably still moan. Edited 12 November 2024 by Wymsey
Guest Bilo Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 Corberan has not managed in the Premier League. Corberan's West Brom cannot score in the Championship. Corberan would take a large compensation to West Brom to come here. Corberan is not going to come here. Corberan would be crap.
les-tah Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 Just now, Wymsey said: The thing is - somehow beat Chelsea, and some will probably still moan. Yeah but that would be an anomaly in the data. Out of form teams or lower league teams will always get a random result or win against a big team and defy the odds. We could beat chelsea but still be on the downward spiral, as previously mentioned if it wasn’t for the red cards against Southampton and Ipswich we would be relegation zone on 6 points.
Aus Fox Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 3 minutes ago, les-tah said: Yeah but that would be an anomaly in the data. Out of form teams or lower league teams will always get a random result or win against a big team and defy the odds. We could beat chelsea but still be on the downward spiral, as previously mentioned if it wasn’t for the red cards against Southampton and Ipswich we would be relegation zone on 6 points. By the same logic if we hadn’t given away a penalty against Crystal Palace and Ipswich had their man sent off when it was still 0-0 as they should have done, we could be 5 points better off and we’ll clear of the drop zone. Football’s a game of fine margins. 1
TheGoldenGod Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 3 minutes ago, Wymsey said: The thing is - somehow beat Chelsea, and some will probably still moan. What type of performance are we talking about though? One that papers of the cracks where we are battered for 85% of the game, look defensively lost, rely on Mads to make 8 saves and score a penalty. OR One where we defend resolutely, show fight and desire, see some tactical imprint, and score a nicely worked goal albeit see little of the ball. I appreciate its Chelsea and they'll be heavily favourites but it's less about the result but rather if we're actually seeing something in the team whereby we can hang our hat on and say "we can work with this". Personally if I were Cooper, I'd be religiously watching the tapes of all the games we lost last season and play a style that counters Enzoball, sit back congest the box, work on the counter.
Guest Lako42 Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 He's going nowhere lads. Get a new hobby
les-tah Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 1 minute ago, Aus Fox said: By the same logic if we hadn’t given away a penalty against Crystal Palace and Ipswich had their man sent off when it was still 0-0 as they should have done, we could be 5 points better off and we’ll clear of the drop zone. Football’s a game of fine margins. Absolutely agree it’s a game of fine margins. However Ipswich completely outplayed us for most of the match, aside from the first 10 minutes as did Southampton overall, so whether we lose or win by the fine margins, it’s still just as painful either way with cooper. I can’t remember the palace game so someone tell me how good we looked despite the penalty 🤣
daddylonglegs Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 1 minute ago, les-tah said: Absolutely agree it’s a game of fine margins. However Ipswich completely outplayed us for most of the match, aside from the first 10 minutes as did Southampton overall, so whether we lose or win by the fine margins, it’s still just as painful either way with cooper. I can’t remember the palace game so someone tell me how good we looked despite the penalty 🤣 Palace in the first half was probably as good as we've played all season. Tactically really good. Palace in the second half was probably as bad as we've played all season. Tactically moronic.
ozvaldo Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 21 minutes ago, Wymsey said: The thing is - somehow beat Chelsea, and some will probably still moan. There is no chance on Jesus of Nazareth’s Earth that we are beating Chelsea.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 26 minutes ago, Aus Fox said: Corberan??? Tough to beat though, gritty the polar opposite of us right now
TheGoldenGod Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ozvaldo said: There is no chance on Jesus of Nazareth’s Earth that we are beating Chelsea. I'm half expecting Enzo to run down the touchline shushing the prawn sarnie brigade....and to be honest I'm all for it! They deserve everything they get. Be careful what you wish for! Edited 12 November 2024 by TheGoldenGod 1
Popular Post filbertway Posted 12 November 2024 Popular Post Posted 12 November 2024 I'd genuinely be happier to see Rudkin has been sacked before Cooper. Cooper is a symptom, Rudkin is the disease. 8
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 2 minutes ago, Buzzell said: Potter or Moyes? 🤷♂️ Potter out of them 2 for sure 2
The Doctor Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 Potter would be preferable to Moyes, like **** me we think Cooper is tedious to watch? we built a squad under Puel/Rodgers/Enzo to play a particular way and part of the problem with Cooper is we've completely abandoned that, abandoning it further with Moyes is insane 1
Gazza M Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 The only way Cooper turns fans around is to beat Chelsea and Enzo and I just don't see that happening. He certainly needs to rip up the flat back 4 and make us harder to break down. The full backs are junk and Ricardo injured.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 Cooper could turn things around by showing he has some tactical awareness and winning games neither of which are likely 1
Finnegan Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 33 minutes ago, Gazza M said: The only way Cooper turns fans around is to beat Chelsea and Enzo and I just don't see that happening. He certainly needs to rip up the flat back 4 and make us harder to break down. The full backs are junk and Ricardo injured. I'm not a petty, small minded, jealous bitch so I don't really hate Enzo for leaving? I want Leicester to beat Chelsea because I'm a Leicester fan but I don't really care if "Cooper" beats "Enzo." I especially don't care if "Cooper" beating Chelsea involves us parking the bus for 90 minutes and shit-housing it with the manager being bailed out for the Nth time by a player's individual bit of brilliance compensating for his lack of tactical plan. I would change my view of Cooper and warm up to him if the team started showing genuine progress, he started showing some bravery and faith in them, actually got us playing entertaining progressive football and winning games. Doesn't even have to be against teams at the top, either, I'd settle for us not looking like abject cowards and clueless also-rans against the likes of Palace, West Ham, Everton and co'. 4
Stadt Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 4 hours ago, Finnegan said: Or really anywhere. The longer the season goes on, the more this business annoys me. I didn't hate Reid at first, not until we picked up Ayew. Having both on the wage bill is ridiculous, regardless of Reid having no transfer fee. He's contributed next to nothing so far. As for Skipp, christ. It's not even that he's an awful player but what we spent for him to then so few options in more obviously problematic areas of the pitch is just absolutely criminal. In the broader context, he might be the worst single deal we've done in years (again, not a reflection of his ability necessarily.) Everybody that's ever bothered to look at FBref more than once would do a better job at squad planning than the clowns at the club. I'm not being hyperbolic either. After signing one of Ayew or Skipp (maybe both), I posted something along the lines of 'What happens if Cooper is sacked (probably a 50% chance) when we spent so much on his players?" Any new manager has Skipp, Ayew and BDCR tied down for a while occupying registration places and earning probably £150,000 pw between them. The opportunity cost of signing these bozos was huge. 1
RoboFox Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 4 minutes ago, Stadt said: Everybody that's ever bothered to look at FBref more than once would do a better job at squad planning than the clowns at the club. I'm not being hyperbolic either. After signing one of Ayew or Skipp (maybe both), I posted something along the lines of 'What happens if Cooper is sacked (probably a 50% chance) when we spent so much on his players?" Any new manager has Skipp, Ayew and BDCR tied down for a while occupying registration places and earning probably £150,000 pw between them. The opportunity cost of signing these bozos was huge. Is it believed that the Skipp signing came via Cooper? If so it's bizarre that he seems to have been ostracised in recent weeks. Playing Soumare over Skipp? Weird. It's almost as if Cooper doesn't really know what he's doing.
Jattdogg Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 3 hours ago, ClaphamFox said: It's almost certain he will at some point. It's just a matter of when. When we are bottom 3 in the championship next season with maybe 10 games to go or so? 1
Heskey2011 Posted 12 November 2024 Posted 12 November 2024 Think we could be working on Skipp for the RB inverted role with Ricardo out, could be Hamza again. If we're sticking with the Enzoball lite.
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