Cooper - OUT

[chapero82]

I didn’t like the signing either but we have lost 3 out of 8 matches. I can’t really expect more than that in a survival season. 

[Hales]

Just now, Chrysalis said:

Do you have a link Hales, I have asked and no one can provide one.

It was on talksport....I'll see if I can find it

[Jimmy]

if someone posts the link and I hear it fair play but I can't buy a player saying something like that in a post match interview they are far too media trained to say something like that

[hebangsthedrums]

1 hour ago, Lionator said:

Imagine us winning a premier league game 3-2 after being 2 down and your first reaction is to come on here and want the manager sacked 🤣🤣🤣 

Take your point but football does funny things.

A manager wins us the FA Cup, the only domestic trophy we lack and yet I still have a nagging thought he's a massive willy puller

[Mike1983]

With all the flak Cooper's getting, he could just start Danny Ward and Luke Thomas in the next game, just to watch the meltdown and give the fans the ultimate middle finger.

[CosbehFox]

13 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

You still getting it wrong, you are placing blame on conceded goals on one player in a team sport.

 

You also expecting a defender to never get beaten for a cross in a game which is pure fantasy.

 

You just looking for a stick to beat Justin with so there is justification for saying bring in Ricardo.  But dont want to say it.

What are you waffling on about! There’s plenty of examples on team sports in individual errors are fatal. Rugby Union it’s bloody huge and there’s fifteen men on a team but because of

formation and tactic. One individual error leads to a try. Same happens in football. When Meslier made that error last week, no one was saying well Leeds shouldn’t have gave the free kick away or lost the first contact on the free kick. 
 

I’m not expecting a defender to Stop every cross. Im expecting to stop more than less of them or at least make the cross a bad on. However as the goals conceded have involved that pattern of Justin allows a cross - that suggests a higher average. 

 

Im not looking for a stick.

I’m looking at the actual statistics what say there is a problem there. I am looking at how opposition are targeting the right hand side of our defence. I don’t need any individual preference. The actual evidence is there played out in about 5 of our 8 league games this season. 

Edited 19 October 2024 by CosbehFox

[Finnegan]

2 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

is that pfp moodeng  

 

Yes

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, Finnegan said:

 

Yes

 degen

[CosbehFox]

If you want a good example Of an individual error etc, take Faes own goal attempt. 
 

I don’t blame the full back there. Perfect world, the cross doesn’t go in. It’s a nothing cross and defensively we ain’t in a bad position. A minor error. 
 

Faes makes an awful decision of aiming his clearance towards our goal. Bad decision. Nearly a very bad error. Faes at fault if a goal 

 

Anyways, off down the pub 

Edited 19 October 2024 by CosbehFox

[cityfanlee23]

1 hour ago, BKLFox said:

We keep getting this, we could be prime Barcelona but losing and the call would be “its a results business” we get points and it’s because everyone else is shite etc.

A win of Friday and we go into the w/end in top 10 does it really matter how we get there??

 

The league is crazy because even now sitting in 13th if you look up the table there are only 2 teams you think right there are games to target all 3pts in Forest and Brentford after that I think we would be happy to take a point and not take a drubbing…I’m saying that not in a defeatist way but a reality of where we have come from.

This season is going to be a battle to the end and I’d take a few shithouse wins to keep us away from any 3 teams right now.

 

ps Wins breed confidence maybe just maybe we might see a decent 90mins coming 

I hope so, and look, my opinion is based on the performances, I think we've been quite fortunate this season that we have finally come into games at times the opponents have imploded, Spurs fell apart after absolutely dominating, Southampton today, Bournemouth last week could have buried the game multiple times but blew their chances, Palace were 2 completely different teams between halves, Arsenal should have been 4-0 up at half time now, obviously results in football will often come down to a striker missing or scoring a chance, but at some point, results have to start coming from performances of our squad rather than the implosion of our opponents. 
Points are points and the table doesn't lie, however, I personally don't believe that if we play how we are across the rest of the season we will continue to keep getting away with these results. 

I think our points do not reflect our performances, you could argue that getting points when playing bad is a good thing, because when you come good you start pulling teams apart, but we are making the same mistakes every week and it's not changing. 
It will be a hell of a battle and until Arsenal I was fully behind giving Cooper time, but we've gone to an AWFUL Southampton and were lucky to be 2-0 down and not 3. 

I don't think our performances are sustainable enough to keep us up, unless the bottom 4 continue to implode every week. 
If the bottom 4 start picking up points, we could very quickly be back in trouble unless we address the issues we have. I could be optimistic or pessimistic for both sides of my own argument, my optimism unfortunately has switched to pessimism. I hope Cooper can improve his decision making and start putting in some proper performances for 90 minutes and not when desperately chasing. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

Bought himself some grace from me, that was ****ing great.

[Chrysalis]

2 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

If you want a good example Of an individual error etc, take Faes own goal attempt. 
 

I don’t blame the full back there. Perfect world, the cross doesn’t go in. It’s a nothing cross and defensively we ain’t in a bad position. A minor error. 
 

Faes makes an awful decision of aiming his clearance towards our goal. Bad decision. Nearly a very bad error. Faes at fault if a goal 

 

Anyways, off down the pub 

You want him dropped as well now right?

[iancognito]

1 hour ago, safetosurfthisbeach said:

Friday is a tough game for sure. If we win or draw will the "Cooper Out" brigade still want him out? 

Why do we always have to have brigades? Fans concerned by poor performances are no less valid than the bobble-hatted Coach 1s who find no fault with any performance.

 

Any win Vs Forest is welcome but it won't suddenly erase two months of poor performances and handbrake-on selections. Would love to go out there and take them apart but know Steve doesn't want that sort of display.

[Hales]

12 minutes ago, Jimmy said:

if someone posts the link and I hear it fair play but I can't buy a player saying something like that in a post match interview they are far too media trained to say something like that

I'm trying to find it and will post when I do

 

 

[CosbehFox]

3 minutes ago, Chrysalis said:

You want him dropped as well now right?

No because he hasnt consistently made errors like Justin has over the course of the season. 
 

I wouldn’t expect any manager to toss aside a player off 90 minutes. 

Edited 19 October 2024 by CosbehFox

[merlin1969]

3 minutes ago, Hales said:

I'm trying to find it and will post when I do

 

 

I know someone who works at the ground cooper don't like Winks

[BillyFOX12]

4 minutes ago, Hales said:

I'm trying to find it and will post when I do

 

 

So, are the rumours about the players not respecting Cooper's managerial abilities starting to look a bit more believable?

[Hales]

2 minutes ago, merlin1969 said:

I know someone who works at the ground cooper don't like Winks

🙁

[Matt]

Remember when football used to be more "off the cuff"?

 

Not pre planned, predictable or robotic. 

 

****ing fantastic, enjoyable and exciting, wasn't it, huh, just like todays winner!

[Chrysalis]

I really dont want to say anything bad about Winks, based on a tweet.  Hopefully it ends up on youtube or something.

 

But ultimately there will always be players not happy not being picked, the professional thing to do is not moan to the press about it.

[Jimmy]

5 minutes ago, Hales said:

I'm trying to find it and will post when I do

 

 

those quotes aren't the same as they were being framed on here, of course they want to play every week and players should take the initiative with set pieces if something is on, does anything think Liverpool worked on that corner they scored vs Barca?

 

I'd have to hear the tone of how he said it but I don't read that as criticism of Cooper more 2 players that aren't starting want to, which I expect of them

[Mike Oxlong]

7 minutes ago, Hales said:

I'm trying to find it and will post when I do

 

 

Suggests that we are where we are in the league in spite of Cooper rather than because of him 

[Jimmy]

Just now, Chrysalis said:

I really dont want to say anything bad about Winks, based on a tweet.  Hopefully it ends up on youtube or something.

 

But ultimately there will always be players not happy not being picked, the professional thing to do is not moan to the press about it.

the quote in those tweets are fine IMO depending on the tone of how they are said its not a dig at the manager and simply people that don't like Cooper are claiming they are

[Chrysalis]

Just now, Jimmy said:

those quotes aren't the same as they were being framed on here, of course they want to play every week and players should take the initiative with set pieces if something is on, does anything think Liverpool worked on that corner they scored vs Barca?

 

I'd have to hear the tone of how he said it but I don't read that as criticism of Cooper more 2 players that aren't starting want to, which I expect of them

Thats what I am waiting for as well.

[Chrysalis]

1 minute ago, Jimmy said:

the quote in those tweets are fine IMO depending on the tone of how they are said its not a dig at the manager and simply people that don't like Cooper are claiming they are

Sadly its just a one line quote, the rest is Jason's own interpretation.