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[hackneyfox]

37 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

Nor what I was expecting. Still shite mind. Only decent thing announced was keeping the fuel duty froze. 

 

 

Strange that those using public transport could be hit by single bus kourneys going up by 50% yet the polluters don't see an increase.

[leicsmac]

5 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

Strange that those using public transport could be hit by single bus kourneys going up by 50% yet the polluters don't see an increase.

Yeah.

 

Though energy generation rather than transportation is by far the biggest issue in that regard.

[Otis]

6 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

Strange that those using public transport could be hit by single bus kourneys going up by 50% yet the polluters don't see an increase.

Because the public transport is subsidised, the subsidiary is reducing. Polluters as you name them, I.e lorries, van, cars, etc are not subsidised. 

[Greg2607]

13 minutes ago, kenny said:

Shafting people on buses and trains goes against the Labour for working people grain.

explain how they are shafting people? The funding for caps on fareswas due to run out at the end of 2024... so there wasn't ANY cap pencilled in. 

 

They are also increasing rail infrastructure across the north... seems like that might help people to not to have to rely on cars so much.........OR if they do.. Fuel Duty has remained Frozen. 

[StanSP]

Tories 'borrowed £127bn' according to the OBR

 

[Guest Basildon Fox]

On 23/10/2024 at 06:50, leicsmac said:

The Trump campaign complaining that Labour reps are doing work for the Dems.Clearly Farage et al were only there on holiday, then.

 

If hypocrisy could be used to generate power, the worlds energy needs would be solved by Trump, his lackeys and supporters alone. But then that was always apparent.

 

Edit: If (heaven forbid) Trump wins, then I hope Starmer has the courage to drop the diplomatic front from time to time when the two meet and be absolutely candid about what a great many people in the developed world think of him.

I hope that Trump does the same to 2 Tier!!

[Tommy G]

Enjoyed Rishi’s summary - saved his best speech until last, absolutely destroyed Rachel Thieves.  
 

OBR confirm no £22bn black hole - that we have had thrusted down our necks for 3 months. Anti growth, anti business, and including private pensions in your estates 
 

Shocking budget for the working person, and we will see the fallout from this over the next cpl of years. 
 

[leicsmac]

20 minutes ago, Basildon Fox said:

I hope that Trump does the same to 2 Tier!!

Oh, I'm sure he will. He's not exactly shy about showing derision to anyone outside his immediate circle of sycophants.

 

I do hope that there is agreement that the vast majority of policy decisions of any Trump administration would likely be a net negative for the UK and the rest of the world in the short term, and certainly in the long term.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Enjoyed Rishi’s summary - saved his best speech until last, absolutely destroyed Rachel Thieves.  
 

OBR confirm no £22bn black hole - that we have had thrusted down our necks for 3 months. Anti growth, anti business, and including private pensions in your estates 
 

Shocking budget for the working person, and we will see the fallout from this over the next cpl of years. 
 

Unfortunate that the working person (along others) decided to vote in such policies, then.

[RobHawk]

5 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Enjoyed Rishi’s summary - saved his best speech until last, absolutely destroyed Rachel Thieves.  
 

OBR confirm no £22bn black hole - that we have had thrusted down our necks for 3 months. Anti growth, anti business, and including private pensions in your estates 
 

Shocking budget for the working person, and we will see the fallout from this over the next cpl of years. 
 

As a working person, I don't think the budget is that bad tbh.  The country's ****ed, things need to change and whilst I personally would have gone further with a wealth tax amongst other things, I'm overall happy with today's budget

[Tommy G]

1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

Oh, I'm sure he will. He's not exactly shy about showing derision to anyone outside his immediate circle of sycophants.

 

I do hope that there is agreement that the vast majority of policy decisions of any Trump administration would likely be a net negative for the UK and the rest of the world in the short term, and certainly in the long term.

 

 

Unfortunate that the working person (along others) decided to vote in such policies, then.

The working person voted in the government based on a load of promises they have just rowed back on. 

[Tommy G]

2 minutes ago, RobHawk said:

As a working person, I don't think the budget is that bad tbh.  The country's ****ed, things need to change and whilst I personally would have gone further with a wealth tax amongst other things, I'm overall happy with today's budget

Which parts of it make you happy ?

[Mickyblueeyes]

6 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

 

Unfortunate that the working person (along others) decided to vote in such policies, then.

Did they ?

[Zear0]

15 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Enjoyed Rishi’s summary - saved his best speech until last, absolutely destroyed Rachel Thieves.  
 

OBR confirm no £22bn black hole - that we have had thrusted down our necks for 3 months. Anti growth, anti business, and including private pensions in your estates 
 

Shocking budget for the working person, and we will see the fallout from this over the next cpl of years. 
 

No they didn't, they literally said exactly what Reeves said in her speech in their press conference afterwards. 

[kenny]

1 hour ago, Greg2607 said:

explain how they are shafting people? The funding for caps on fareswas due to run out at the end of 2024... so there wasn't ANY cap pencilled in. 

 

They are also increasing rail infrastructure across the north... seems like that might help people to not to have to rely on cars so much.........OR if they do.. Fuel Duty has remained Frozen. 

There may not be a cap pencilled in, but they had the choice whether to keep it or not. People that don't work already get cheaper or free bus fares, so it only effect those that work.

 

The above inflation increase in train fares are likewise. I doubt that will be to pay for infrastructure upgrades, but just for salaries. As far as im aware, much of the northern infrastructure improvements have been planned for a while and Labour are agreeing to see those through.

[urban.spaceman]

14 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

OBR confirm no £22bn black hole.

The OBR confirmed the Tories and the Treasury lied to them.

 

https://obr.uk/review-of-the-march-2024-forecast-for-departmental-expenditure-limits/

 

Hunt's reputation is in tatters.

[reporterpenguin]

2 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

That budget wasn't anywhere near as bad as I was expecting.

Not that I particularly know what I’m on about, but that was my impression too. 
 

Presumably that was the point of all the doom and gloom they’ve been on about, when it’s not that bad the public are more palatable to it. 

[reporterpenguin]

Just now, urban.spaceman said:

The OBR confirmed the Tories and the Treasury lied to them.

 

https://obr.uk/review-of-the-march-2024-forecast-for-departmental-expenditure-limits/

 

Hunt's reputation is in tatters.

Get out of here with your facts, Tommy G has already made his mind up!

[leicsmac]

8 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

The working person voted in the government based on a load of promises they have just rowed back on. 

I would be interested in more specific details here, especially given the opinion above that the previous government lied to the OBR.

 

5 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Did they ?

Given the election result, I would assume a majority did.

[urban.spaceman]

Just now, Zear0 said:

Because within this film were allegations against a child that were proven false and for which Yaxley lost a court case for libel in.

 

Film, newspaper article whatever, he repeated libelous material that he was ordered to stop and he continued to do so and admitted his guilt resulting in him going to jail. 

 

My point is that he is being punished like everyone else has been for hundreds of years under libel laws. 

TwO TiEr KiEr tho. 

[SecretPro]

28 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Enjoyed Rishi’s summary - saved his best speech until last, absolutely destroyed Rachel Thieves.  
 

OBR confirm no £22bn black hole - that we have had thrusted down our necks for 3 months. Anti growth, anti business, and including private pensions in your estates 
 

Shocking budget for the working person, and we will see the fallout from this over the next cpl of years. 
 

beggars belief how anybody can try and take this standpoint after the last 14 years of ABSOLUTE ABJECT HORROR. 

 

 

[Tommy G]

Just now, SecretPro said:

beggars belief how anybody can try and take this standpoint after the last 14 years of ABSOLUTE ABJECT HORROR. 

 

 

Because I don’t view life through the lens of “it’s not as rubbish as it was  so it must be better”.

This budget is an economic tragedy and will affect everyone posting on this forum negatively - whether you chose to believe this or not is up to you. 
 

The way the tories ran the country during Covid was a joke, Boris is a joke, Truss is an ever bigger joke. Who is arguing with that?
 

Doesn’t mean you can’t now comment on a budget where a government is trying to tax their way out of it - and blatantly lie through their teeth during the election process, this is what Labour does and it will all unfold over the current term.
 

They aren’t well supported and the popularity nosedive has been devastating since July. 

 

 

 

[Lionator]

2 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

That budget wasn't anywhere near as bad as I was expecting.

I always find it crazy how reactionary people get at budget’s as surely proof will be in the pudding in several years time at the earliest? 
 

The hysterical reaction from those on the right is probably understandable because it goes against their political instincts, that’s fine. I was similar with massive cuts of public services. Our public services are absolutely wrecked, so personally I don’t think it’s a bad thing that we seem to be prioritising funding them again. Hopefully with Streeting’s NHS reforms in the long run, we can cut the inefficiencies in our health and social care services and the money can be used far more effectively. 
 

One thing I do find odious outside of political/ideological standpoints, is that despite promising the money, Sunak and Hunt hadn’t actually budgeted for the post masters/infected blood payouts. That’s disgusting imo. 

[Zear0]

5 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Because I don’t view life through the lens of “it’s not as rubbish as it was  so it must be better”.

This budget is an economic tragedy and will affect everyone posting on this forum negatively - whether you chose to believe this or not is up to you. 
 

The way the tories ran the country during Covid was a joke, Boris is a joke, Truss is an ever bigger joke. Who is arguing with that?
 

Doesn’t mean you can’t now comment on a budget where a government is trying to tax their way out of it - and blatantly lie through their teeth during the election process, this is what Labour does and it will all unfold over the current term.
 

They aren’t well supported and the popularity nosedive has been devastating since July. 

 

 

 

Everyone? Carers or people on minimum wage included in that? 

 

I actually think most people would be happy to pay more tax for an increase in quality of public services, I would, and this won't cause the nose dive you suggest. 

[grobyfox1990]

44 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Enjoyed Rishi’s summary - saved his best speech until last, absolutely destroyed Rachel Thieves.  
 

OBR confirm no £22bn black hole - that we have had thrusted down our necks for 3 months. Anti growth, anti business, and including private pensions in your estates 
 

Shocking budget for the working person, and we will see the fallout from this over the next cpl of years. 
 

When did the OBR say that?! How have I completely missed that bombshell, what context? That's huge news if so, shatters the whole pre-messaging tbf. Wonder what reaction this will have on Gilts..

[Lionator]

9 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Because I don’t view life through the lens of “it’s not as rubbish as it was  so it must be better”.

This budget is an economic tragedy and will affect everyone posting on this forum negatively - whether you chose to believe this or not is up to you. 
 

The way the tories ran the country during Covid was a joke, Boris is a joke, Truss is an ever bigger joke. Who is arguing with that?
 

Doesn’t mean you can’t now comment on a budget where a government is trying to tax their way out of it - and blatantly lie through their teeth during the election process, this is what Labour does and it will all unfold over the current term.
 

They aren’t well supported and the popularity nosedive has been devastating since July. 

 

 

 

Out of curiosity, what would a good budget look like to you?