bovril Posted 7 January Posted 7 January 14 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said: The empire building was done before we were a proper democracy. Looking at the history of my own family I won't be taking on any guilt. You make it sound like no other country was at it. You could trace a lot of our financial issues to the 2 world wars. Also different parts of the country benefitted more from it, e.g: Norfolk - became wealthy from the medieval wool trade with Europe; totally fine. Liverpool - built on slavery and proceeds from the empire; should be razed to the ground to atone for the past. 1
Foxdiamond Posted 7 January Posted 7 January Just now, bovril said: Also different parts of the country benefitted more from it, e.g: Norfolk - became wealthy from the medieval wool trade with Europe; totally fine. Liverpool - built on slavery and proceeds from the empire; should be razed to the ground to atone for the past. This is what makes me laugh. Good or bad the past is history. The self loathing seems to be a particular thing in Britain. Slavery a stain but who were capturing the slaves and selling them. 3
Sampson Posted 7 January Posted 7 January Starting to think the invention of social media is “the great filter” answer to the Fermi Paradox. 1
leicsmac Posted 7 January Posted 7 January 1 minute ago, Sampson said: Starting to think the invention of social media is “the great filter” answer to the Fermi Paradox. ... or one possible answer of a suite of them. Others might include energy requirements for long distance spaceflight and sustainable civilisation, and organism lifespan.
samlcfc Posted 7 January Posted 7 January 1 hour ago, blabyboy said: Heard of the Telepathy Tapes podcast? https://thetelepathytapes.com/ I listened to that. I'm not the most materially grounded person in the world, but the below is a decent read considering the lack of evidence provided on the back of the podcast. https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/critical-thinking-pseudoscience/telepathy-tapes-prove-we-all-want-believe I tried to pull up some of Dr Powell's old work too, which wasn't amazing. 1
SecretPro Posted 7 January Posted 7 January (edited) Victoria Derbyshire handing Nadine Doris a spade to dig a hole with on Newsnight was fantastic, especially after an impassioned and honest interview with Jess Phillips. Edited 7 January by SecretPro
blabyboy Posted 7 January Posted 7 January (edited) 22 minutes ago, samlcfc said: I listened to that. I'm not the most materially grounded person in the world, but the below is a decent read considering the lack of evidence provided on the back of the podcast. https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/critical-thinking-pseudoscience/telepathy-tapes-prove-we-all-want-believe I tried to pull up some of Dr Powell's old work too, which wasn't amazing. How many..? Because you've just demonstrated the points made in two of the episodes around Materialist science and using old papers to prove a point. ☺️ But yeah, it does get a bit extra on some points like the Speller culture.. can't help thinking there is something in it though... You only need one white crow right..?! Edited 7 January by blabyboy
WigstonWanderer Posted 7 January Posted 7 January 6 hours ago, Bellend Sebastian said: Here's a fun read for those who like this sort of thing: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2025/01/january-6-justification-machine/681215/ It’s behind a paywall and I can’t be arsed to subscribe for the trial, but it is becoming more and more obvious that we are all being brainwashed in bullshit. Our views used to be shaped to some degree by media, but mostly by our own experiences and those of our friends and family. I don’t believe that anyone can keep a truly balanced or objective point of view in this environment. No idea how this will ever be fixed, and we’re all just ultimately fodder for rich an powerful who are able to manipulate these things.
Jon the Hat Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 6 hours ago, st albans fox said: The don says they’re going to change the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the gulf of America ! I reckon that will only be in the USA - the rest of world won’t change Does he know that Mexico is indeed in America?
Jon the Hat Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 43 minutes ago, ozleicester said: Just remember.... none of us have true free will. I'm not even sure true free will exists, we don't live in a vacuum. Anyway, greater minds than me have debated this for millennia without consensus.
Jon the Hat Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 3 hours ago, Sampson said: Starting to think the invention of social media is “the great filter” answer to the Fermi Paradox. Lets hope not.
Daggers Posted 8 January Author Posted 8 January 3 hours ago, ozleicester said: Just remember.... none of us have true free will. Except for me … and I've proved it by stopping posting responses every time an idiot or bigot chirps up. Go me and my free will, I say to myself. Except for now because I’m too busy saying ‘damn this insomnia’.
fox_favourite Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 31 minutes ago, Daggers said: Except for me … and I've proved it by stopping posting responses every time an idiot or bigot chirps up. Go me and my free will, I say to myself. Except for now because I’m too busy saying ‘damn this insomnia’. Ah, another with insomnia. It's not fun.
fox_favourite Posted 8 January Posted 8 January (edited) It seems to a basic neanderthal like myself that there's an agenda to musks recent behaviour and comments on social media towards EU politics. Making comments about Tommy Robinson (who in my opinion is where he should be) and endorsing the controversial parties in Germany etc...he's made comments about Norway, Spain, us and Germany from what I can gather. It's almost trying to destabilise Europe. Is he doing this for US benefit, or is this part of a bigger plan? Or just a state of self importance? Interesting that he's left alone Hungary and Italy. Just a thought of a basic human being suffering with insomnia. I don't like him, and reason why I wouldn't buy a Tesla or use X (though never used twitter as was). Edited 8 January by fox_favourite
Jattdogg Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 3 hours ago, Jon the Hat said: Does he know that Mexico is indeed in America? Surprised he hasn't thought about renaming the North Atlanic ocean as " The Greatest American ocean ever" 2
Daggers Posted 8 January Author Posted 8 January 2 hours ago, fox_favourite said: Ah, another with insomnia. It's not fun. Well I've just filed all my work and invoiced for the week, so there are benefits 1
leicsmac Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 3 hours ago, fox_favourite said: It seems to a basic neanderthal like myself that there's an agenda to musks recent behaviour and comments on social media towards EU politics. Making comments about Tommy Robinson (who in my opinion is where he should be) and endorsing the controversial parties in Germany etc...he's made comments about Norway, Spain, us and Germany from what I can gather. It's almost trying to destabilise Europe. Is he doing this for US benefit, or is this part of a bigger plan? Or just a state of self importance? Interesting that he's left alone Hungary and Italy. Just a thought of a basic human being suffering with insomnia. I don't like him, and reason why I wouldn't buy a Tesla or use X (though never used twitter as was). There is an agenda, and it is the imposition of nationalist ethnostates across Europe that he can then do business with. He gets the profit, Trump and his followers get their ideological model exported. Of course, those two ideals can clash, as we've seen already. 1
Jon the Hat Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 17 minutes ago, leicsmac said: There is an agenda, and it is the imposition of nationalist ethnostates across Europe that he can then do business with. He gets the profit, Trump and his followers get their ideological model exported. Of course, those two ideals can clash, as we've seen already. How does having nationalist ethnostates (even if it were possible) help Musk do business? Seems like nonsense to me. I think he simply likes the power of ****ing with governments. 1
leicsmac Posted 8 January Posted 8 January (edited) 12 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: How does having nationalist ethnostates (even if it were possible) help Musk do business? Seems like nonsense to me. I think he simply likes the power of ****ing with governments. Because they appear to be more keen to do business with him in the first place. The ethnostate part is mostly incidental from his POV - I don't really think the ideology matters to him much - but it is patently obvious that is the horse he is backing from a profit perspective and is highly likely to be the consequence for everyone if his influence is successful. Whether or not that's a good decision from him in terms of personal gain is in the eye of the beholder. Edit: and history shows that the creation of ethnostates through oppression and death is entirely possible, and the attempt has been responsible for some rather large historical atrocities. Edited 8 January by leicsmac
samlcfc Posted 8 January Posted 8 January 8 hours ago, blabyboy said: How many..? Because you've just demonstrated the points made in two of the episodes around Materialist science and using old papers to prove a point. ☺️ Could only find a couple of Dr Powell's available. They were in fringe journals as you might expect, but the work described didn't seem extremely thorough and the format didn't conform to what you'd expect from a research paper. I was hoping the videos they'd mentioned would allow for analysing the methodology, but they're behind a paywall and reportedly limited. Personally, I feel if you're going to be making these claims, especially whilst working with vulnerable people, you should be as transparent as possible. They're holding the footage back for a documentary I'd imagine. If they are fooling themselves, it'll be pretty short-lived should they be forthcoming with their work. Unlike some paranormal topics, it seems fairly simple to complete good faith experiments with the participants, which limit other sense related variables. 1
Lionator Posted 8 January Posted 8 January If trump wanted to invade Britain, occupy it and install a MAGA type government, could we defend it and would we even defend it?
RoboFox Posted 8 January Posted 8 January We're eight days into 2025 and I already want to get off. 1 1
Sampson Posted 8 January Posted 8 January (edited) 8 minutes ago, Lionator said: If trump wanted to invade Britain, occupy it and install a MAGA type government, could we defend it and would we even defend it? No and no, and if the past 9 years have taught me anything, it’s that, as much as we like to tell the world we’re a stable western democracy, Brits would bow down and let an authoritarian leader or dictator take over just like the rest of the countries if the economic conditions are right and they make enough impossible promises about how it will make our life better and kick out “undesirables”. Edited 8 January by Sampson
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