Jeremy Monga

[cruzFOX]

The club I’m sure are providing adequate counseling and support but it is what it is. From time to time young players come thru who have the talent & potential to play at the highest level. We can’t stifle that progression! If we did we wouldn’t have ever seen a Messi, Rooney, Ronaldo and now Jamin Jamal at Barca. These rare talents come once in a generation and can pop up anywhere. We got lucky at Leicester. Birmingham got lucky with Bellingham.

let our professional coaches do their thing. The club especially top & rudders should be protecting our starlets like they are golden eggs.

[Samilktray]

Jamin Jamal is great

[ClaphamFox]

39 minutes ago, cruzFOX said:

The club I’m sure are providing adequate counseling and support but it is what it is. From time to time young players come thru who have the talent & potential to play at the highest level. We can’t stifle that progression! If we did we wouldn’t have ever seen a Messi, Rooney, Ronaldo and now Jamin Jamal at Barca. These rare talents come once in a generation and can pop up anywhere. We got lucky at Leicester. Birmingham got lucky with Bellingham.

let our professional coaches do their thing. The club especially top & rudders should be protecting our starlets like they are golden eggs.

Sadly it's more likely to be like this:

 

[Verumex]

1 hour ago, cruzFOX said:

The club I’m sure are providing adequate counseling and support but it is what it is. From time to time young players come thru who have the talent & potential to play at the highest level. We can’t stifle that progression! If we did we wouldn’t have ever seen a Messi, Rooney, Ronaldo and now Jamin Jamal at Barca. These rare talents come once in a generation and can pop up anywhere. We got lucky at Leicester. Birmingham got lucky with Bellingham.

let our professional coaches do their thing. The club especially top & rudders should be protecting our starlets like they are golden eggs.

He's looked pretty good for his age, but can we not compare him to Messi, Ronaldo or even Bellingham yet? 

 

That's extraordinary expectations for the kid...

[HankMarvin]

1 hour ago, cruzFOX said:

Jamin Jamal at Barca

Jamaican wonderkid?

[Tommy G]

Everyone who has Monga down as a credible option for a large part of next season is a reason why we have so many armchair managers.

 

He should carry on in the U18s and play the odd mins here and there for the first team. He's 15 ffs. 

[filbertway]

1 minute ago, Tommy G said:

Everyone who has Monga down as a credible option for a large part of next season is a reason why we have so many armchair managers.

 

He should carry on in the U18s and play the odd mins here and there for the first team. He's 15 ffs. 

Alright Guy

[Tommy G]

Just now, filbertway said:

Alright Guy

Who's Guy?

[Steve Earle]

57 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

Sadly it's more likely to be like this:

 

Like you I’ve zero confidence in the club’s ability to do anything right, except by accident.

[Tommy Fresh]

7 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Everyone who has Monga down as a credible option for a large part of next season is a reason why we have so many armchair managers.

 

He should carry on in the U18s and play the odd mins here and there for the first team. He's 15 ffs. 

Why isn't it a credible option?

[LCFCJohn]

8 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Everyone who has Monga down as a credible option for a large part of next season is a reason why we have so many armchair managers.

 

He should carry on in the U18s and play the odd mins here and there for the first team. He's 15 ffs. 

Disagree. Now if people were putting him playing 46 games in the starting 11, yes I’d agree. However, Fatawu and Mavididi are first choice so having Evans and Monga getting regular minutes and providing a break/rotation is a good thing.

 

If Monga sees his future as a 10 as was reported, and if Bilal leaves, that is a dilemma as we wouldn’t have a natural first choice 10 like we do on the wings. 
 

Anyway, point being, we will be in the Championship, if the likes of Monga and Evans are left in the u18 we will lose them and any credibility we might have of giving young players a chance.

[Tommy G]

4 minutes ago, Tommy Fresh said:

Why isn't it a credible option?

Because he's still young and I don't think championship football week in week out will do him any good. 

 

20 mins at home here and there yes, fully integrated into the 1st team no. I agree with what RvN says for once!

[moore_94]

14 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Everyone who has Monga down as a credible option for a large part of next season is a reason why we have so many armchair managers.

 

He should carry on in the U18s and play the odd mins here and there for the first team. He's 15 ffs. 

Definitely be gone if he gets bumped back down to the under 18s

[StanSP]

1 hour ago, Samilktray said:

Jamin Jamal is great

Big fan of Jamin Jamal. Top player. 

[ClaphamFox]

13 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Everyone who has Monga down as a credible option for a large part of next season is a reason why we have so many armchair managers.

 

He should carry on in the U18s and play the odd mins here and there for the first team. He's 15 ffs. 

If he has the choice of playing in our development squad vs a PL development squad, he’ll be off. The only way we’ll keep him is by offering a clearer path to first team football. 

[Jobyfox]

I wonder how many people debating whether he should be in the first team or not have seen him play over a sustained period of time. What’s for sure is that nobody will have witnessed that in the Championship.

 

The reality is that his ability should dictate the future direction. Is he good enough to be a squad player in a team that presumably should be pushing for promotion? We haven’t got the luxury of playing somebody just to develop them, but only if they have the ability.

 

No point putting him in the team to keep him happy, we stay down and he just goes to Man City anyway at the end of the season to sit in their reserves. He needs to contribute consistently 

[Buzzell]

28 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Everyone who has Monga down as a credible option for a large part of next season is a reason why we have so many armchair managers.

 

He should carry on in the U18s and play the odd mins here and there for the first team. He's 15 ffs. 

If he’s good enough then he’s definitely worthy of pushing for a place in the squad. He’s more than likely going to be happy to hang around if he’s guaranteed some sort of first team action instead of moving on into another academy surely.

[Tommy G]

Just now, Buzzell said:

If he’s good enough then he’s definitely worthy of pushing for a place in the squad. He’s more than likely going to be happy to hang around if he’s guaranteed some sort of first team action instead of moving on into another academy surely.

Yes which is why I posted about the odd 20 mins here and there - I think that's the maximum to aid his development. Alves should take some of the slack next season, same with McAteer who was OK in the champ last time around.

[filbertway]

7 minutes ago, Jobyfox said:

I wonder how many people debating whether he should be in the first team or not have seen him play over a sustained period of time. What’s for sure is that nobody will have witnessed that in the Championship.

 

The reality is that his ability should dictate the future direction. Is he good enough to be a squad player in a team that presumably should be pushing for promotion? We haven’t got the luxury of playing somebody just to develop them, but only if they have the ability.

 

No point putting him in the team to keep him happy, we stay down and he just goes to Man City anyway at the end of the season to sit in their reserves. He needs to contribute consistently 

I think the school of thought is that he is good enough to contribute, whether that's as an impact player or starter.

 

It's the reality of all players. We don't want to play players who are just going to end up in League Two. We want to put time and effort into developing players who's ceiling is high.

 

People aren't calling for every 15 year old in the academy to play. They're calling for the one who's looked mustard in the u21s and has looked more than comfortable against senior defence's in the Papa Johns or whatever it's called these days.

 

I think I disagree slightly, I'm all for harnessing and developing potential. As long as you see that potential above the level you're currently at. Then you reap the rewards from that further down the line. Planning for the future will always be better than making short term decisions.

 

Although in Monga's situation, it does feel risky when the player is 16 and could still leave on a free. On balance though, I'd rather go down that route than live my life thinking that the only answer is battle hardened lads in their early 30s.

[filbertway]

32 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Who's Guy?

Big Guy Branston  He was on the BSLB podcast a few weeks back and just came across as very anti-developing youth. He seemed to be obsessed with the fact that because he was bigger and balder than an 18 year old that the 18 year old couldn't possibly get the better of him.

[Samilktray]

41 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Everyone who has Monga down as a credible option for a large part of next season is a reason why we have so many armchair managers.

 

He should carry on in the U18s and play the odd mins here and there for the first team. He's 15 ffs. 

This sentence doesn't make any sense imho

[brookfox]

Feel like whatever happens we should definitely retire the #93 shirt. Nothing to do with Monga, more a point of principle.

[HankMarvin]

55 minutes ago, Tommy G said:

Everyone who has Monga down as a credible option for a large part of next season is a reason why we have so many armchair managers.

 

He should carry on in the U18s and play the odd mins here and there for the first team. He's 15 ffs. 

A host of well known names made there debuts in the championship at 16 

if you’re good enough 

you’re old enough 

John Bostock

Connor Wickam

Jude Bellingham 

Jonjo Shelvey

Ryan Sessegnon 

Jobe Bellingham 

Theo Walcott 

Arron Ramsey 

Will Hughes 

Gareth Bale 

 

He is already a head of this lot because, he has experienced Prem football and first team

training at a younger age,

By the end of the season he may well have started a game 

[Tommy Fresh]

1 hour ago, Tommy G said:

Because he's still young and I don't think championship football week in week out will do him any good. 

 

20 mins at home here and there yes, fully integrated into the 1st team no. I agree with what RvN says for once!

As others have said, plenty of lads of a similar age have played a lot of first team football in the Championship, I'm not sure why you think it wouldn't do him any good either to be honest? 

And again as others have said, he'll definitely think twice about staying in the future, additionally how does it look to other half decent prospects if we aren't willing to give Monga a proper go.

[adejo92]

18 minutes ago, HankMarvin said:

A host of well known names made there debuts in the championship at 16 

if you’re good enough 

you’re old enough 

John Bostock

Connor Wickam

Jude Bellingham 

Jonjo Shelvey

Ryan Sessegnon 

Jobe Bellingham 

Theo Walcott 

Arron Ramsey 

Will Hughes 

Gareth Bale 

 

He is already a head of this lot because, he has experienced Prem football and first team

training at a younger age,

By the end of the season he may well have started a game 

Yeah, i agree.

 

I don't know what it is about him, but he seems confident & at home on the pitch.

 

Okay, he'll have plenty of faults but they'll get ironed out very quickly playing first team football.

 

Id take him over a fully developed player like Kasey McAteer any day of the week.