Jeremy Monga

[volpeazzurro]

9 hours ago, Fox 4 Life said:

He is 15, slighty dramatic 

Not really, supposedly Manchester City and Chelsea are interested in him. We've got brilliant facilities at Seagrave but it's merely a white elephant, clearly no decent coaches there over a long period of time now! All fur coat and no knickers. 

 

Our system of sending players out on loan is slow, too late and to clubs that are hardly well thought out, Braybrooke to Dundee for example  

 

Compare that to certain other clubs like those two mentioned and he'll at least get some decent coaching. 

[st albans fox]

8 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

I was in the corporate area tonight and I spent a few mins before kick off chatting to a former player in the media box. When we got on to Monga he basically said he’s made the first team squad to bulk up his reputation and fee, and that’s he’s off - he’s received offers from everyone bla bla bla. There was winking going on on and all sorts when I probed…

 

None of this will be surprising, but thought I’d share anyway.

This is what most of us assumed.  

[Ian Nacho]

I get the whole giving him the experience of putting of the bench but I guarantee the only scenario he comes on is if we're 2/3 up with 5 minutes to go. 

[FOXSE]

There is talk that the 93 shirt will be retired when he leaves.....

[smudger63]

Sadly we will never see him as a leicester City first team player. 

Much like Nyoni who went Liverpool, he won't even be associated with Leicester if/when he starts making a name for himself within the media or fan bases.

There was a Liverpool fan on Talk shite the other week, going about this super talent Nyoni who is going to be a star of the future, and how it just goes to show what a great academy they have, and how they are not just reliant on buying players, they make their own too. 

I'm pretty sure he hadn't got a scooby that they had took him from Leicester, and the guy presenting the show clearly hadn't either.

It will be the same with Monga. 

The real injustice is though, is that in the longer term, there is a decent chance that we will be losing out on millions of pounds in a transfer, despite us being the club that nurtured them. 

 

[Sunbury Fox]

8 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

I was in the corporate area tonight and I spent a few mins before kick off chatting to a former player in the media box. When we got on to Monga he basically said he’s made the first team squad to bulk up his reputation and fee, and that’s he’s off - he’s received offers from everyone bla bla bla. There was winking going on on and all sorts when I probed…

 

None of this will be surprising, but thought I’d share anyway.

Another sorry example of how modern football is dying through the growing domination of a few mega rich clubs who are able to stockpile all of the best talent. How are we supposed to compete when they’re now even poaching our best 15 year olds, let alone players who’ve played a couple of years in our first team and done well? 

Edited 8 February by Sunbury Fox

[StanSP]

10 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

He needs to leave for his career like Alves etc. 

He's 15

 

[Jimmy]

slightly annoying he didn't get on and we only used 4 subs, the amount of times Ruud does that is weird, rushed the change with Daka injured and meant neither Monga nor Stephy could come on until Extra time

[inckley fox]

6 hours ago, smudger63 said:

Sadly we will never see him as a leicester City first team player. 

Much like Nyoni who went Liverpool, he won't even be associated with Leicester if/when he starts making a name for himself within the media or fan bases.

There was a Liverpool fan on Talk shite the other week, going about this super talent Nyoni who is going to be a star of the future, and how it just goes to show what a great academy they have, and how they are not just reliant on buying players, they make their own too. 

I'm pretty sure he hadn't got a scooby that they had took him from Leicester, and the guy presenting the show clearly hadn't either.

It will be the same with Monga. 

The real injustice is though, is that in the longer term, there is a decent chance that we will be losing out on millions of pounds in a transfer, despite us being the club that nurtured them. 

 

I agree totally with the sentiment, and think it's essential for the future of the game that they get to grips with what's basically the trading of children for significant sums of money. Surely there's something fundamentally immoral in that, and it wouldn't be hard to establish some norms which protected youngsters and the academies that nurture them. But I'm not sure we're entirely innocent either when it comes to Monga, or did I misread something?

[Clever Fox]

I thought Monga should have come on with at least 20 minutes to go.

 

How much worse could he be than Ayew who was finished after 65 minutes.

 

With his pace running at Utd you never know what happens.

[Horibbly Wrong]

21 hours ago, smudger63 said:

Sadly we will never see him as a leicester City first team player. 

Much like Nyoni who went Liverpool, he won't even be associated with Leicester if/when he starts making a name for himself within the media or fan bases.

There was a Liverpool fan on Talk shite the other week, going about this super talent Nyoni who is going to be a star of the future, and how it just goes to show what a great academy they have, and how they are not just reliant on buying players, they make their own too. 

I'm pretty sure he hadn't got a scooby that they had took him from Leicester, and the guy presenting the show clearly hadn't either.

It will be the same with Monga. 

The real injustice is though, is that in the longer term, there is a decent chance that we will be losing out on millions of pounds in a transfer, despite us being the club that nurtured them. 

 

Maybe there should be a default 30% sell on fee if a team poaches a youth product

[The Doctor]

1 hour ago, Horibbly Wrong said:

Maybe there should be a default 30% sell on fee if a team poaches a youth product

honestly the simplest partial solution is to make the international rules apply domestically as well. Monga cannot sign for the real Madrid academy unless his parents are moving to Madrid for non footballing reasons, apply that domestically, because currently we're talking about the combined effect of PSR creating existential crises for many clubs - to manage in PSR clubs without major commerical incomes (aka the greedy six) have to make a habit of buying low and selling high or developing youth talent to sell; and the latter becomes less and less viable if the greedy six can poach whoever they like from an academy and pay maybe a 10th of the fee they'd be expected after a couple of years in the first team.

[JimJams]

It's almost like it's "by design" isn't it?

[FOXSE]

1 hour ago, The Doctor said:

honestly the simplest partial solution is to make the international rules apply domestically as well. Monga cannot sign for the real Madrid academy unless his parents are moving to Madrid for non footballing reasons, apply that domestically, because currently we're talking about the combined effect of PSR creating existential crises for many clubs - to manage in PSR clubs without major commerical incomes (aka the greedy six) have to make a habit of buying low and selling high or developing youth talent to sell; and the latter becomes less and less viable if the greedy six can poach whoever they like from an academy and pay maybe a 10th of the fee they'd be expected after a couple of years in the first team.

Surely rules like PSR are to ultimately to encourage good behaviour by clubs. What is better behaviour for the game than investing in developing youth talent? That should be promoted and protected.

[The Doctor]

11 minutes ago, FOXSE said:

Surely rules like PSR are to ultimately to encourage good behaviour by clubs. What is better behaviour for the game than investing in developing youth talent? That should be promoted and protected.

it should, but it isn't currently, and it will harm the England national team in the long run. Allow constant poaching and clubs getting maybe a couple of million for players that would be worth far more and clubs will start to do the calculations on whether it's actually worth having an academy (Brentford have already done this). if a significant chunk come up with "no it isn't worth it" then how many players fall through the gaps?

[FOXSE]

Just now, The Doctor said:

it should, but it isn't currently, and it will harm the England national team in the long run. Allow constant poaching and clubs getting maybe a couple of million for players that would be worth far more and clubs will start to do the calculations on whether it's actually worth having an academy (Brentford have already done this). if a significant chunk come up with "no it isn't worth it" then how many players fall through the gaps?

100%

[williamson]

On 07/02/2025 at 11:30, splinterdream said:

Well you obviously haven't got a 14 year old daughter 🤣

ive only got the three daughters and the 4 year old can ?

[Mickyblueeyes]

We should've brought him on so when he does leave we can retire his shirt number like Birmingham did for Bellingham. 

[Freeman's Wharfer]

On 09/02/2025 at 11:04, The Doctor said:

it should, but it isn't currently, and it will harm the England national team in the long run. Allow constant poaching and clubs getting maybe a couple of million for players that would be worth far more and clubs will start to do the calculations on whether it's actually worth having an academy (Brentford have already done this). if a significant chunk come up with "no it isn't worth it" then how many players fall through the gaps?

How many of these young players get poached and then never go on to make a mark as well?

 

Chelsea used to do it a lot and a few who probably would have eased into a ‘smaller’ club’s first team and then gone on to have a decent career at the top level got lost amongst the masses. 
 

Take the case of someone like Harvey Barnes. Good youth prospect, couple of successful loans, eased into our first team and eventually got an England cap. If he’d gone to a Man City or Liverpool at 15 would he be a Premier League player? 
 

We can’t know for certain but I actually think it was beneficial to him and England for him to come through here rather than be poached. 
 

This is an area where I think our club is falling short at the minute unfortunately. We struggle to get players successful loan moves and we’re not savy enough. I’m convinced we’ve had a couple here (Casadei and Kane) where it’s been written into the loan that they have to play a part in every fixture. Yet we’re sending Braybrooke up to Dundee with nothing similar?

 

And if you have the likes of Andy King around the club, use him. Get him talking to the kid and his parents every week. Connect Monga’s parents with the likes of Chilwell and Barnes’ parents to hear their views. Get Vardy putting an arm round him. Go find the kids that went to big clubs and never made it and ask them to be a case study. A bit of initiative here could be worth millions later down the line.

[JimJams]

1 hour ago, williamson said:

ive only got the three daughters and the 4 year old can ?

If it's a can of peaches it's got a shelf life of way more than 4 years, so you and the kids should be ok there.

[Jimopinion]

On 09/01/2025 at 12:56, Jimopinion said:

monga is going to manchester city. deal was completed months ago. 

 

[Jimopinion]

On 09/01/2025 at 12:56, Jimopinion said:

monga is going to manchester city. deal was completed months ago. 

told you guys. and many more in lower age groups are looking to leave. parents unhappy with ian cawley and rudkin

[Kp1984]

Run like a joke 

[ozvaldo]

Just ****ing play him. 

[dmayne7]

14 minutes ago, Jimopinion said:

told you guys. and many more in lower age groups are looking to leave. parents unhappy with ian cawley and rudkin

Out of interest, why would they be annoyed with those 2? Is the issue the treatment in the youth teams or is it about the lack of first team opportunities?