Forest post match 3-1 loss

[Beachyboy]

Ipswich is a must win, that run of 6 fixtures between Man utd and Newcastle away before Wolves on 22nd December, on last nights showing makes it hard to believe we get a point from those 18 points available.

[trooky]

The goals we conceded were all individual mistakes and preventable .

 

Buonanotte should not been taking players on in our own box, but JJ's clearance was terrible that lead to the goal.

 

Winks pass to Fatawu was the correct pass but Fatawu doesn't make the run and not switched on at the start of the 2nd half.

 

For me Okoli, Faes and Mads are all at fault for the third, none of them are set for a simple long ball.

 

Cooper picked the correct team, first half was good but created nothing in the match other than the goal and undone by individual mistakes.

[Tom12345]

3 minutes ago, trooky said:

The goals we conceded were all individual mistakes and preventable .

 

Buonanotte should not been taking players on in our own box, but JJ's clearance was terrible that lead to the goal.

 

Winks pass to Fatawu was the correct pass but Fatawu doesn't make the run and not switched on at the start of the 2nd half.

 

For me Okoli, Faes and Mads are all at fault for the third, none of them are set for a simple long ball.

 

Cooper picked the correct team, first half was good but created nothing in the match other than the goal and undone by individual mistakes.

Just on the Winks pass, I agree it was the right pass. Fatawu was unfortunately blocked by the ref and he didn’t see what Winks was doing until the ball had gone past the ref. I actually thought the ref was partly to blame for that.  However, the culprit for that was Okoli. As a CB, allowing someone that close to turn and shoot is really a mistake. Vesty would have blocked that.

[Beachyboy]

6 minutes ago, trooky said:

The goals we conceded were all individual mistakes and preventable .

 

Buonanotte should not been taking players on in our own box, but JJ's clearance was terrible that lead to the goal.

 

Winks pass to Fatawu was the correct pass but Fatawu doesn't make the run and not switched on at the start of the 2nd half.

 

For me Okoli, Faes and Mads are all at fault for the third, none of them are set for a simple long ball.

 

Cooper picked the correct team, first half was good but created nothing in the match other than the goal and undone by individual mistakes.

While I agree with this, we didn't look very threatening from attacks and the defence looks like it will concede 2 a game. Feels a lot like Pearson 14/15 where we stay in games pick up the odd win but lose the majority of games by 1 or 2 goals. Which is an improvement on 22/23 where we got smashed by Brighton and Spurs in back to back weekends.

Edited 26 October 2024 by Beachyboy

[SK3Blue]

Another sh1tshow. 
 

I have no idea what Cooper does with them week in week out at training. 
 

No tactics, no plan, Nuno changed it and it should have been a 0-4 second half. 
 

As for Soumare that was the final straw, what on earth was going through Coopers head when he came on? he’s more embarrassing than the clappers. 
 

 

[Tom12345]

11 minutes ago, trooky said:

The goals we conceded were all individual mistakes and preventable .

 

Buonanotte should not been taking players on in our own box, but JJ's clearance was terrible that lead to the goal.

 

Winks pass to Fatawu was the correct pass but Fatawu doesn't make the run and not switched on at the start of the 2nd half.

 

For me Okoli, Faes and Mads are all at fault for the third, none of them are set for a simple long ball.

 

Cooper picked the correct team, first half was good but created nothing in the match other than the goal and undone by individual mistakes.

As for the third goal, you have a point. Perhaps we have an organisational issue. At the moment, there seems to be no clear leader. Faes shouts but as we know he is more about waving his hands and blaming others, so it is hard to see the other two respecting or listening to him. Therefore, perhaps there may also be a deeper leadership issue.

Edited 26 October 2024 by Tom12345

[Jazzy_Jeff]

As many have said - we called for Ricardo and Fatawu and they were poor (as were many others)

 

I can only assume that we went to the inverted system to compensate for Ricardo who is either rusty, unable to bomb up and down anymore or both. 
 

The players didn’t believe in the manager last night and that came across in the performance and would have contributed to the errors.

 

If VK is injured then in hindsight going to a 3 at the back would have suited us better. Easy to say now, but as many have said already we were bereft of ideas and confidence last night. Thats on Cooper. 

[Winstonthedog]

The single game Cooper could have won over some fans and eased the pressure on himself .... he blew it ...  

[Smig123]

It's quite simple Forest realised that Cooper wasn't good enough so relieved him of his duties and they have got better. Then all of a sudden through complete desperation the leicester board think he's the man for us. They say football is now a business so we go hire someone no one else wants . That's cracking business acumen. Can't make it up 

[hejammy]

7 hours ago, Chrysalis said:

Sorry need to call this one out, the first goal conceded happened in the period of play after Ricardo lost possession, I will also add it was an unforced error as he wasnt even under pressure.

 

The first goal has been really interesting, as despite Ricardo being at fault many people blamed JJ anyway.

 

A few have admitted they did see it after I pointed out Ricardo's mistake but they let it go, I expect people are watching JJ like a hawk every game now as well.

Absolute rubbish, Ricky lost possession around 3 phases before they scored. It was JJs feeble clearance that directly resulted in the goal. You absolutely have no basis on defending JJ yesterday, yes granted most players didn't have a great game but JJ was at fault for most of their chances and goals. Like I said at the moment he's a liability. 

[CrazyKopCorner]

To be fair to them I thought they were a very good side. 

 

Their shape out of possession was superb and they broke at pace. 

 

They seemed to have a really strong midfield nucleus who moved it quickly to the wings where I thought Hudson Odoi was excellent. 

 

We looked really good first half when we got at them but unfortunately we just weren't able to keep it up. 

 

Our starts to the 2nd halves are atrocious - what does he say to them at half time (even Saturday we were crap for 5 / 10 minutes). 

 

He really needs to get them prepared for next Saturday which is a far bigger game for us in league terms. 

 

Edited 26 October 2024 by CrazyKopCorner

[CrazyKopCorner]

48 minutes ago, Winstonthedog said:

The single game Cooper could have won over some fans and eased the pressure on himself .... he blew it ...  

He's just not up to it. 

 

Gets away with a lot as he talks reasonably honestly but he's just not good enough for us 

Edited 26 October 2024 by CrazyKopCorner

[Gamble92]

I think people are wrong to think they won't act more quickly this time. He's gone with one more defeat next week.

[teblin]

Forest are a decent side, with a manager that has a plan and they are athletic and physical.

 

he did pick the team everyone wanted, and even though Ricky wasn’t at his best he wasn’t awful either. Justin always seems in a rush but not in a good way last night. But I’m just not sure on the plan we try to execute.

 

for 20 minutes in the 1st half I actually thought we we fairly decent. The goal was great football. But again we can’t string 90 minutes together and terrible defensive mistakes.

[fox_favourite]

I was so angry last night. But now I feel numb. I look back and think why am I surprised? Why was I expecting anything else. And I think that's what I'll be like from now until Rudkin is gone. He's not running the footballing side well.  

 

So we lost, badly. We have a manager that is out his depth, a team looking lost and a DoF who just makes mistake after mistake. 

 

The club is soft

Edited 26 October 2024 by fox_favourite

[Seventyseven]

22 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

To be fair to them I though to them I thought they were a very good side. 

 

Their shape out of possession was superb and they broke at pace. 

 

They seemed to have a really strong midfield nucleus who moved it quickly to the wings where I thought Hudson Odoi was excellent. 

 

We looked really good first half when we got at them but unfortunately we just weren't able to keep it up. 

 

Our starts to the 2nd halves are atrocious - what does he say to them at half time (even Saturday we were crap for 5 / 10 minutes). 

 

He really needs to get them prepared for net Saturday which is a far bigger game for us in league terms. 

 

They did look very good and it shows what can be done with good recruitment.

 

their defence cost £22M, Elanga 15m, Hudson-Odoi £3m. Anderson 15m (but of FFP navigating there with Newcastle but looks a bargain). I could go on but it’s annoying me. 
 

I think some are overdoing it on the first half. I mean it was better than the second by a mile. Aside from the goal their keeper didn’t make a save and they could have had 3 really. Yates said after the game that  Nuno brought their wingers in more second half to give less room, that’s all it took yet Cooper had no answer.  

[Seventyseven]

25 minutes ago, CrazyKopCorner said:

He's jsut not up to it. 

 

Gets away with a lot as he talks reasonably honestly but he's just not good enough for us 

Said when he joined that he was very media savvy. He clearly spends time in this area, a very modern manager in this respect. 

[CrazyKopCorner]

2 minutes ago, Seventyseven said:

Said when he joined that he was very media savvy. He clearly spends time in this area, a very modern manager in this respect. 

Yes it actually sounds a bit false to me how he goes on - almost like what will ingratiate me to supporters, the board, the players 

[Happy Fox]

He’s not liked here and never will be, just get him gone. It’s like Everton appointing Rafa Benitez.

[Nalis]

They looked decent to be fair,  with a bit of luck they might finish top half.

[AKCJ]

Last night was the exact reason why we shouldn't have signed Cooper.

 

When will he ever be loved by Leicester fans?

 

It's Everton signing Benitez. Just waiting for the inevitable mauling by Liverpool and subjecting their fans to a game like last night. It was obviously going to happen.

 

This club is so unbelievably out of touch with the fans. Please Top. Please sell up.

[CrazyKopCorner]

9 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

He’s not liked here and never will be, just get him gone. It’s like Everton appointing Rafa Benitez.

Yes and last night will not have helped - Such a meek and tactically inept display and sang to the rafters by the twonks up the road 

 

I'd have Potter lined up now 

[ozleicester]

Well im confused, Cooper selected exactly the side that so many have been clamouring for, the players for some periods even played the "Maresca way", Riccy was back, Mav and Fatawu both started... and still we looked second rate and lost easily.

Is it possible, that this squad is just a bit poor?

[Dan]

49 minutes ago, Gamble92 said:

I think people are wrong to think they won't act more quickly this time. He's gone with one more defeat next week.

You might be right but I can never have confidence in these absolute clowns to do the right thing. They have utterly sabotaged us from that ridiculous 2022/23 season - so much ground lost and we'll pay for it as long as they're here.

[Fox85]

That was one of the longest drives home I've left the stadium in a long time, not because of the distance but in terms of wtf is wrong with the club.

 

I genuinely think we played decent the first half to get back into the game and we looked like we would be the ones to get the win I was looking forward to half time.

 

Half time happens and Cooper was out classed in terms of in game management, didn't know what to do what so ever his subs was shocking again, of which made no impact.

 

People will say well it's the players.

 

Ok if it's the players then the players got us the 2 wins against Bournemouth and and Southampton and the players had a shit game against forest. If that's the case fair enough.

 

However it's not. Last nights 2nd half performance is all on the manager no ifs or buts it was. He doesn't know how to read games and look for the next phase to beat teams. We just got absolutely spanked in our own back yard it's embarrassing. The stadium went flat.

 

Cooper was cheering inside for every forest goal last night he needs to go